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Americans Unsure About "Progressive" Political Label
Gallup news ^ | July 12, 2010 | Lydia Saad

Posted on 07/12/2010 8:02:57 PM PDT by george76

Gallup polling reveals widespread public uncertainty about the "progressive" political label -- a label recently embraced by no less than Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan.

While Kagan described her political views as "generally progressive" during her Senate confirmation hearings, fewer than half of Americans can say whether "progressive" does (12%) or does not (31%) describe their own views. The majority (54%) are unsure.

(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communist; democrats; elenakagan; fail; kagan; liberalprogressivism; liberals; progressive

1 posted on 07/12/2010 8:03:00 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

People who claim themselves Progressives are telling you that they are particularly foul, nasty, abusive, sociopathic COMMIES.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 8:05:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: george76

I guess 54% of people are just plain stupid...

And that is what “progressives” hope for...


3 posted on 07/12/2010 8:07:56 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: george76

Sad!

The commies can keep on renaming themselves with impunity.


4 posted on 07/12/2010 8:08:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: muawiyah

Progressive = anti-Constitution


5 posted on 07/12/2010 8:08:08 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: george76

bookmark


6 posted on 07/12/2010 8:09:54 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I tell you, with this economic reality, with former producers sidelined watching city, state and fed workers prosper, perspectives are starting to change.


7 posted on 07/12/2010 8:12:15 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: editor-surveyor

Stupid Marxist animals think they can just continue to vote themselves ever increasing amounts of our money and freedom and we’re just supposed to shut up and like it or else

They haven’t seen anything yet

Its not enough to vote out the marxists in swing districts and regain the majority, that will be the easy part.

It needs to be coupled with the destruction of the communist "Congressional Progressive Caucus" as an above ground legitimate organization.

Its members and supporters need to be exposed as reds, prosecuted and imprisoned where evidence of criminality is uncovered, and the organization itself driven back underground like in the 50's when the marxists met in secret to plot the communist revolution, not changed their names to "Progressives" and did it in our faces.

8 posted on 07/12/2010 8:15:32 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: george76

progressive - Someone who comprehends neither history nor economics.


9 posted on 07/12/2010 8:19:23 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: george76

“Progressive”

What a misnomer


10 posted on 07/12/2010 8:19:49 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: george76

The average American probably thinks ‘Progressive’ is a company that employs a quirky painted chick named ‘Flo’ to sell them insurance in a sterile online store.

The general public is too enamored with Lebron James and Tiger Woods at the moment to even care to delve past the political superficiality that makes them do stupid things like, say, elect Barack Obama for president.

I don’t have much faith in them. I just pray that more informed types come out in November and that the left’s useful idiots find themselves way too busy to care to show up.


11 posted on 07/12/2010 8:20:14 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: george76

A Freeper here once said the libtards should be called the “oppressives”.


12 posted on 07/12/2010 8:20:36 PM PDT by max americana
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To: posterchild
progressive - Someone who comprehends neither history nor economics.

Bingo!

13 posted on 07/12/2010 8:27:01 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: A_Former_Democrat

progressive = regressive


14 posted on 07/12/2010 8:35:30 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: george76
There shouldn't be any confusion about it.

Progressive = Progress on the road to Socialism and Communism.

For Progressives, the ends justify the means, hence their lies and subversions are their tools, much like their brothers-in-arms, radical Islamists, use the principle of Al Takeyya to cover their true intentions.

15 posted on 07/12/2010 8:35:55 PM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: george76
While Kagan described her political views as "generally progressive" during her Senate confirmation hearings, fewer than half of Americans can say whether "progressive" does (12%) or does not (31%) describe their own views. The majority (54%) are unsure.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 8:40:27 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: george76

Progressive is well to the left of liberal. The word was dropped for a while, because it had a bad odor, but now it seems to be coming back.

As many replies have already noted. Communists have long referred to themselves as progressives, beginning back in the nineteenth century.


17 posted on 07/12/2010 8:41:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: george76

Progressives are nothing more than PATIENT COMMUNISTS. They’re willing to have Communism creep into society rather than risk an October revolution.


18 posted on 07/12/2010 8:42:13 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: george76
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19 posted on 07/12/2010 8:45:37 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: george76
Something can be making progress, but that doesn't mean it's in the right direction. If I leave on a boat from New York, bound for England, and the boat starts heading for Spain, the boat is still making progress, isn't it? Bow still cutting the water, wake from the stern. “Progress”. The word means nothing.
20 posted on 07/12/2010 8:46:22 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: muawiyah

They’re domestic terrorists hiding behind labels that they think the American people are too stupid to figure out.

They’re WRONG.


21 posted on 07/12/2010 8:50:46 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: george76
Progressive = communist

You have less than four months to get the picture, Americans. We are going to suffer tremendously as it is.

22 posted on 07/12/2010 8:57:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: george76

So Gallup only affirms what Glenn Beck has been saying all along: the libtard Progressives have been dumbing down each generation with its brand of historical revisionism taught within our lamearse education system....


23 posted on 07/12/2010 8:58:25 PM PDT by cranked
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To: george76

The connotations of Progressive are becoming: commie, vile, atheist, stupid, useful idiot, liar, brainwashed, fascist, etc.

In my circle, it is truly an insult to be called a Progressive.

I think it will become the new dirty word like liberal became—thanks a large part to Glenn Beck. The communists and fascist have infiltrated all parties and have been morphing and calling themselves by different names but they are all Progressives at heart.


24 posted on 07/12/2010 9:02:04 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: george76
Progressive definition

pro·gres·sive [pruh-gres-iv]

–adjective

9. Medicine/Medical . continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

25 posted on 07/12/2010 9:04:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: lmr
I don’t have much faith in them.

Neither did the Founders.

That's why they left it up to the states to decide who got to vote.

4 Amendments and Motor Votor later, here we are.

26 posted on 07/12/2010 9:07:00 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: george76

54% should either watch Glenn Beck or listen to Mark Levin. ONCE. That’s all it would take to clear themselves up about “Progressive”.


27 posted on 07/12/2010 9:27:05 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandwithArizona)
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To: george76

“progressive” = profane + regressive.


28 posted on 07/12/2010 9:33:40 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: george76
Here ya go:

What is a Progressive? (and why they should scare you) Part 1

Scary Progressives/Socialists: In Their Own Words, Part 2

Don't Call Them Progressives

Progressivism/Liberalism is Heresy [Excellent read & reference]

With "liberal" out, what's left? Progressive

What the Progressives Want

29 posted on 07/12/2010 9:34:01 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: muawiyah
“People who claim themselves Progressives are telling you that they are particularly foul, nasty, abusive, sociopathic COMMIES.”

I see you have a liberal to english dictionary.

30 posted on 07/12/2010 9:38:45 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: lmr

“The general public is too enamored with Lebron James and Tiger Woods at the moment to even care to delve past the political superficiality that makes them do stupid things like, say, elect Barack Obama for president.”

What?! Have we forgotten Lindsay Lohan ALREADY??? The horror. The HORROR!!!/s;)


31 posted on 07/12/2010 10:31:05 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

LOL!


32 posted on 07/12/2010 10:32:10 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: george76

Don’t worry. When this label fails them they’ll come out with another focus polled welcoming term that means the opposite of what they actually stand for. That term will then be abused until it no longer ides what they support then another new term emerges.


33 posted on 07/13/2010 12:36:06 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: lmr
The average American probably thinks ‘Progressive’ is a company that employs a quirky painted chick named ‘Flo’ to sell them insurance in a sterile online store.

1972 : (OHIO : PETER LEWIS WORKS FOR GEORGE MCGOVERN'S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN -- See PROGRESSIVE CORP/INSURANCE COMPANIES, WAR ON DRUGS, TED KENNEDY, CCR) Lewis has been heavily involved in U.S. Democratic Party politics for years. He started by working as the Ohio finance chairman for George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign. “I did it essentially because I hated Richard Nixon,” Lewis said. -- "DADDY WEEDBUCKS MAKES BID FOR WHITE HOUSE : Who is Peter Lewis? ," by Cliff Kinkaid, AIM Report, January 26, 2004

2001 : (NEW ZEALAND : US DEMOCRAT PARTY ACTIVIST PETER LEWIS OF PROGRESSIVE CORP, IS ARRESTED FOR IMPORTING THE DRUGS HASHISH & POT-- -- See PROGRESSIVE CORP/INSURANCE COMPANIES, WAR ON DRUGS, TED KENNEDY, GEORGE MCGOVERN, CCR) on a trip to New Zealand three years ago [2001], he was arrested and admitted to three charges of importing drugs after customs officers found two ounces of hashish and 1.7 ounces of marijuana in his luggage. The charges, however, were dropped and his identity suppressed by a court in New Zealand. -- "DADDY WEEDBUCKS MAKES BID FOR WHITE HOUSE : Who is Peter Lewis? ," by Cliff Kinkaid, AIM Report, January 26, 2004

NOVEMBER 10, 2003 : (REPORT : US DEMOCRAT PARTY ACTIVIST PETER LEWIS OF PROGRESSIVE CORP PLEDGES $10 MILLION TO THE LIB GROUP ACT --- SEE SHADOW GOVERNMENT, SOROS, CAP, 2004 ELECTION, PROGRESSIVE CORP/INSURANCE COMPANIES, WAR ON DRUGS, TED KENNEDY, GEORGE MCGOVERN, CCR) His [Soros] campaign began last summer [2003] with the help of Morton H. Halperin, a liberal think tank veteran. Soros invited Democratic strategists to his house in Southampton, Long Island, including Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta, Jeremy Rosner, Robert Boorstin and Carl Pope.
They discussed the coming election. Standing on the back deck, the evening sun angling into their eyes, Soros took aside Steve Rosenthal, CEO of the liberal activist group America Coming Together (ACT), and Ellen Malcolm, its president. They were proposing to mobilize voters in 17 battleground states. Soros told them he would give ACT $10 million.
Before coffee the next morning, his friend Peter Lewis, chairman of the Progressive Corp., had pledged $10 million to ACT. Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of RealNetworks, promised $2 million. Rob McKay, president of the McKay Family Foundation, gave $1 million and benefactors Lewis and Dorothy Cullman committed $500,000.
Soros also promised up to $3 million to Podesta's new think tank, the Center for American Progress. ------Washington Post * Backers of CCR include: Louis Farrakan, Lyndon LaRouche, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, the late (second) wife of the traitor Alger Hiss, Actors Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon, singer Natalie Merchant , Pete Seeger (the folk singer from The Weavers), Insurance magnate Peter B. Lewis, a kingpin of George Soros’s “Democracy Alliance,” writes big checks to CCR, as does Soros’s Open Society Institute.

NOVEMBER 1966 : (NLG GROUP CCR IS FOUNDED AS A FRONT FOR THE OLD COMMUNIST PARTY -- See NECLC) The CCR is a Communist Party creation, coming about as a project of the CPUSA-controlled, marxist dominated National Lawyers Guild (congressionally cited as a CPUSA front). It was created by William Kunstler, Arthur Kinoy, Peter Weiss, possibly CPer Morton Stavis, etc, from the law firm of Kunstler, Kinoy, Stavis and Weiss, and from other CPers in the NLG.
It was created to bring in New Left lawyers and legal workers who were not CP members nor necessarily members of the NLG, then, in the 60’s, a CP/Marxist controlled operation..
Members of another key CPUSA legal front, the National Emergency Civil Liberties Committee, also were involved with CCR. Among CCR’s leaders have been Michael Ratner, a registered agent for Castro and avowed Marxist; Ron Daniels, a black marxist extremist who has just created a new radical front; and Marilyn Clements, from the Hanoi Lobby and Anti-Defense Lobby and pro-Sandinista lobby; and others whose records show their affinity for communist causes in the US and around the world (El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cuba, and Communist Yugoslavia/Milosevic, as well as being anti-Colombia, anti-Israel, and against all anti-terrorism programs). Older reports on the CCR were published in the Congressional Record in the 1970’s and possibly early 1980’s by Rep. Larry McDonald (D-Ga), sometimes in Human Events weekly, and other conservative publications, including the old Pink Sheet on the Left/American Sentinel.----17 posted on 10/11/2007 6:26:49 PM PDT by Max Friedman | To 4

34 posted on 07/13/2010 1:40:50 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cicero
“Progressive is well to the left of liberal. The word was dropped for a while, because it had a bad odor, but now it seems to be coming back.

As many replies have already noted. Communists have long referred to themselves as progressives, beginning back in the nineteenth century”.

The socialists dropped ‘progressive’ back in the 30’s due to the stench found unacceptable by the public. Now that ‘liberal’ has begun the same stench, they are re-branding back to ‘progressive’.

Only reason they are getting away with it is the total failure of public education to teach history.

35 posted on 07/13/2010 6:44:38 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: muawiyah
Kagan is clearly a Progressive in every political sense. The goal of the current "Progressives" is to control every aspect of life on Planet Earth. They are almost Fascists in the government they espouse. It is time to again post my detailed argument about this- apologies to those who have already seen and absorbed it.

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People are now realizing just what the word "Progressive" means. The leftists needed a new name in America when the voters permanently soured on the direction "liberals" were pulling the country.

These super-liberals who call themselves "PROGRESSIVE" espouse a new form of government that is actually a synthesis of two previously existing government forms: Communism and Fascism.

When many use the word “fascist” they are simply using it as a pejorative. When people were calling Bush “fascist”, that was simply a smear. When I challenged them to define fascist, and they were unable to respond, I educated them. That reduced them to calling him monkey instead. Dear Leader has been RULING as a fascist as I will demonstrate.

However, when using "Fascist" here, I am NOT using it as a pejorative. It is attempting to describe as accurately as possible the system of government they espouse and are trying to bring about. I ran into a problem, though, when researching the question.

I excerpt part of http://open-encyclopedia.com/Fascism as a base for the analysis.

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that
  • exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
  • uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
  • engages in severe economic and social regimentation, and
  • espouses nationalism and sometimes racism or ethnic nationalism. ,


... The purpose of the government under fascism proper was to value itself as the highest priority to its culture in just being the state in itself, the larger scope of which, the better...

... The Nazi movement spoke of class-based society as the enemy, and wanted to unify the racial element above established classes. The Fascist movement, on the other hand, sought to preserve the class system and uphold it as the foundation of established and desirable culture...

...Fascism rejects the central tenets of Marxism, which are class struggle, and the need to replace capitalism with a society run by the working class in which the workers own the means of production. ...

[Fascism includes] capitalism ... This was a new capitalist system, however, one in which the state seized control of the organization of vital industries.

Look at the agenda the Progressives have undertaken since gaining control of Congress in 2006, and indeed before that time. Control of business, reduction of personal liberty, using propaganda and censorship to suppress opposition, social regimentation, higher taxes which clearly reduces personal liberty, expanding national government everywhere, even severe regimentation passing laws about light bulbs and on and on. Much of their agenda and methodology is VERY fascist.

However, bullet points 1 & 4 give us a problem whether we use nationalism or racism. Progressives certainly never goad people into a frenzy by extolling the virtues of the United States so are not nationalists in the typical sense of the word. They don’t use racism that way, either- they merely use it as a pejorative. Thus, we are not quite accurate in equating Progressivism with Fascism.

A digression concerning Nazi (National Socialist) vs. Fascist: Nazi is a subset of Fascist, but that subset does not include any more Progressive traits than Fascist.

What actually is needed to describe Progressives is Fascism that is NOT nationalist, at least nationalism in the sense of promotion of their own nation as superior.

They are not Socialist (Marxist), either. When have you EVER heard a Progressive politician or any of the Democrats extol the virtues of having a classless society? Certainly they don't desire that for themselves or their rich donors! They give lip service to "tax the rich" but never offer to divest themselves of the perks of their own office or wealth. They are most definitely in favor of a classes, with themselves in the highest class.

This brings up the following, from the same main source: http://open-encyclopedia.com/Communism

In terms of socio-economic systems, communism and socialism are two different things. For example, socialism involves the existence of a state, while communism does not...[and] abolishes private ownership altogether.

I’ve heard it argued that Communism has never been implemented, as a result. Apologies to Marx and Engels, but it is the supporters of communism who make that argument. Communism as it is now defined requires that there be NO “state”. Just as clearly, the "progressives" are not socialist as they aren't pushing for government ownership of industry.

This helps us gain some ground, though. Communism shares this major feature of "no state" with Progressivism! So, where are we now?

These super-liberals, including Dear Leader and those who are currently running congress, have been pushing CapNTax, ObamaCare, apologies for the US, making nice with sworn enemies, international law, eliminating military superiority, eliminating US economic superiority, etc.. In nearly EVERY area of our culture or economy that they have been pushing most fervently, they push for a leveling of the US with other nations, and attempt to remove national differences and boundaries. These fit with Communism, except that they have NO DESIRE to eliminate "classes" of people, or that the state OWN business- they only wish to CONTROL business as in Fascism (they have stated that they don't want to run the banks or auto companies) and they don't mind that their favored elites are billionaires and super-millionaires, just as in fascism. Like fascism, they desire to control individual thought and behavior and forcibly suppress dissent. (Witness the Dept.Justice dropping the charges of voter intimidation against the Black Panthers.)

Either we stipulate that the “whole world” is the “nation” for Dear Leader et al, to accurately describe their government philosophy, and state they are "ONE-WORLD FASCISTS", or we need a new word to describe their desired governmental system.

A word that would accurately synthesize their thinking is:

CommuFascist

The important point, though, is that whether this philosophy is labeled CommuFascist, or “Progressive” or One-World Fascists, analysis reveals that Dear Leader, Pelosi, and these super-liberals are espousing a MORE EXTREME FORM of Fascism and VERY extreme form of liberalism. Dear Leader is a “one-world” Mussolini.

Far from being pejorative, analysis reveals it is being generous when one describes as Fascist, not pejorative. We might be calling them something more extreme instead, “Progressive” or equivalently, CommuFascist.


36 posted on 07/13/2010 8:34:08 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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