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Obama aides say stimulus saved millions of jobs
news.yahoo.com ^ | July 14, 2010 | news.yahoo.com

Posted on 07/14/2010 8:52:38 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

They may have ‘saved’ some govt jobs at the local and state levels (union members are always more important, e.g. UAW, SEIU) but created ? I don’t think so.

My original understanding of the stimulus was that the banks needed help in order to keep small business lines of credit open which in turn would prevent layoffs. That sounded half way logical to me at the time. Doesn’t look like much of anything happened along those lines though, does it?


41 posted on 07/14/2010 12:41:53 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Obama aides say stimulus saved millions of jobs

And God consults with me before he does anything! /s

42 posted on 07/14/2010 1:34:46 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: RichInOC

lol


43 posted on 07/14/2010 2:49:48 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Danae; musicman; NoObamaFightForConservatives
Americans are awakening to the fact that govt insiders are mishandling trillions in "stimulus:------that federal monies are being illegally directed to Democrat campaign coffers, and/or wire-transferred offshore into personal accounts......and being laundered in the states.

Keep in mind, some 85% of Obama's stimulus is still in Washington. Ohaha's hoarding it among his several slush funds, doling it out to imperiled Dems' 2010-12 campaigns.

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ABC NEWS, Nov 18, 2009
Stimulus grants: Why Was The White House Website Riddled With Errors?

Officials tell ABC News so far, they found 700 mistaken Congressional districts out of more than 130,000 stimulus grants. On Monday night, ABC reported on errors found on the website set up by the White House to track the number of jobs created or saved by the economic stimulus program. The website was riddled with reports of jobs in places that didn't even exist. That report prompted anger on Capitol Hill, and defensiveness at the White House. On Tuesday night's broadcast, ABC's Chief Congressional Correspondent Jon Karl took another look at the stimulus confusion (link) http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/11/why-was-white-house-website-riddled-with-errors.html

LINK---Jon Karl: White House Vows to Correct Stimulus Reports Officials Tell ABC News So Far, They Found 700 Mistaken Congressional Districts Out of More Than 130,000 Stimulus Grants

ABC NEWS' JONATHAN KARL, Chief Congressional Correspondent, REPORTS, Nov. 17, 2009

When it comes to stimulus spending, could the wheels of government bureaucracy be grinding too quickly for once? Responding to more inaccuracies discovered in the reporting of spending and job creation from the administration's economic stimulus plan, the top White House official charged with overseeing the program vowed today to go through the reports with a fine-toothed comb and to correct the mistakes.

The promise came after ABC News found that Recovery.gov, the government Web site created to track the expenditures, had many job creation and stimulus spending figures that were attributed to congressional districts that do not exist, or that were incorrectly identified.

"The first time out, we knew there were going to be problems," said Edward DeSeve, special advisor to the president on the stimulus bill. "We don't think there are a lot of them. There are less than 1 percent in terms of the recent concern about congressional districts of the overall reports. And we've got a good commitment from the recovery board to work with us to fix them."

Officials tell ABC News, so far, they have found 700 mistakenly credited congressional districts out of more than 130,000 stimulus grants. The White House's Web site claims that more than 640,000 jobs have already been saved and created by the " $787 billion stimulus program. The reports used to come up with that number are riddled with errors.

In addition to the jobs in non-existent congressional districts reported Monday by ABC News, in real congressional districts, there are also problems, lots of them.

Moore's Shoes in Campbellsville, Ky., claims nine jobs were created from an $890 grant for nine pairs of work boots for the Army Corps of Engineers. Head Start of Augusta, Ga., claimed 317 jobs with a $790,000 grant, but it was really just a one-time raise to its 317 employees.

Chris Whitley is a fiscal officer for Central Savannah River Area Economic Opportunity Authority, which administers the Head Start program in Augusta. He says it was the administration's stimulus help line that advised them to claim 317 jobs. "It wasn't illegal, immoral or unethical. And they told me to do it, so I did it," said Whitley.

The mistakes have prompted anger on Capitol Hill. Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., the powerful chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, was outraged that one sewer project in his district was listed as creating 100 jobs. The real number is five. When asked what he thought when he saw the mistakes in his district, Obey said, "I wanted to strangle somebody."

Obey is demanding the administration fix the mistakes. "Fix the problem, the blessed problem, so that we're getting accurate information. I don't care what people's bureaucratic niceties are, or how hard it is to do it. I mean, they've got to fix the problem, so the American people can understand what the realities are.

SOURCE http://abcnews.go.com/WN/white-house-stimulus-website-riddled-errors/story?id=9110298

44 posted on 07/14/2010 3:50:07 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Thank you for the ping and info!!!!!


45 posted on 07/14/2010 4:27:01 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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These Kanjorski deals smell to high heaven and should be investigated at once.

The recipient of a $400 million loan guarantee from the US Dept of Energy in 2010-----Russell Kanjorski-----made headlines, along with his siblings, in 2002 when a company they owned received as much as $9 million in federal grants that their uncle US Rep. Paul E. Kanjorski, D-Nanticoke helped obtain using controversial "earmarks." That company, Plains Township-based Cornerstone Technologies, filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2006.

REFERENCE----NRCC REPORT In 2002, US Rep. Paul E. Kanjorski, D-Nanticoke paid a family business and several family members over $9.5 million tax dollars. One business was K&K Real Estate, a business he co-owns with his brother.

From 1999 to 2002, Kanjorski used controversial Congressional "earmarks" totalling nearly $9.4 million given to Cornerstone Technologies Inc., owned by Kanjorski’s nephews, and its sister company Pennsylvania Micronics.

In 2008 after more than a year in the hands of a court-appointed trustee, the bankruptcy of Cornerstone Technologies was nearing an end. Funded with $9.2 million in federal defense earmarks secured by the congressman, the company halted operations in 2003. Company officials filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy Sept. 26, 2006 with Cornerstone reporting $14,100 in assets compared with $1.34 million in debt, according to bankruptcy court records.

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QUESTION Can the Kanjorskis produce documents that show where they spent millions of tax dollars? Did they file all the proper IRS documents? (Stolen money is taxable.)

RESPONSE Oh, never mind the FBI, SEC, IRS, DOJ can find out (/snix).

POSSIBLE CHARGES Official acts prohibited, misuse of govt funds, abuse of public office; misuse of government position; abuse of government power; conflict of interest; influence buying; conspiracy to deceive; misuse of office, collusion, conspiracy to collude; govt fraud.

Possible federal offenses could include, but not be limited to:

Title 18 U.S.C. §1341, Mail Fraud,

18 U.S.C.§1001, Presenting a False Document to an Agent of the US Government,

18 U.S.C.§1027 False statements and concealment of facts in relation to documents required by the 1974 ERISA

Possible ERISA offenses including civiland/or criminal RICO violations,

18 U.S.C. §§1961-68 (RICO Act),

18 U.S.C. §241 (Conspiracy Against Civil Rights).

(1) All of the financial documents used by these entities need to be scrutinized.

(2) Banks holding monies for the Kanjorski entities need to be examined by an outside auditor to determine if the bank was used for fraud.

(3) FEC documents need to be exposed to determine whether campaign contributions were exchanged for tax dollars.

(4) Filing false documents and falsified information incurs felony charges for 1st-degree tampering with public records, 1st-degree offering of a false instrument for filing, 4th-degree grand larceny, and 1st-degree falsifying of official records.

46 posted on 07/14/2010 4:59:07 PM PDT by Liz
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Just how do you verify and count 'saved' jobs?

Only hockey goalies can count 'saves'!

47 posted on 07/14/2010 9:45:03 PM PDT by SlightOfTongue
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To: jveritas
>>>>Always somewhere on this forum there is a fool trying to say 1+1 =3 rather than 1+1=2.<<<

I was being sarcasic chief. Wisconsin has a road project every ten feet and they're using that crap as a way to say they've saved jobs. On a certain level, there is no question all these jamokes would be out of a job had the state and feds not tossed millions of dollars into repaving the entire state. Too bad they've ignored the business community in Wisconsin by raising taxes at every level.

48 posted on 07/15/2010 9:02:28 AM PDT by irish guard
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