Posted on 07/15/2010 3:32:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle
RICHMOND, VA (WWBT) - It has now been just about two weeks since a new Virginia law went into effect allowing concealed weapons in bars and restaurants. Now, both sides of the issue are already weighing in on its impact.
Today we get the opinions of people directly connected to the new law. Phillip Van Cleave is the President of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a group that fought to get the law passed.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbc12.com ...
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“Should concealed weapons be allowed in bars and restaurants?”
Yes - 88%
No - 12%
If a person is afraid to go somewhere ,isn’t it smarter to avoid going there?
What are you referring to in your question?
I read the debate; the business owner appears not to want to have guns in his establishment; the concealed weapons carrier feels unsafe going there without his concealed weapon. I come down on the side of the business owner.
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Your right, too; not quibbling with it.
BTW, do you think the restaurant owner should be allowed to ban burqas in contravention of rights of religious expression? I do.
So do I, private property rights (almost) always are more important than individual rights. A business owner should always be free to forbid business as permitted by law (and even then, law has WAY overstepped its bounds with respect to smoking, etc).
However, a blanket state ban on CCW in bars or restaurants is unfathomable. Even forbidding a CCW holder to defend his or herself after responsibly enjoying a beverage with dinner is nanny statism. Getting sloshed and carrying is never a good idea, but many states, such as Pennsylvania, trust the license holder to be responsible, and there are not incidents of "blood on the streets" as many would suggest.
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The law before this law a lawyer or judge can carry in a bar and drink. The law now states the CCW person can carry but not drink. The lawyer and judge can still drink and carry. Did you know that?
Yes — 85%
No — 15%
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Should concealed weapons be allowed in bars and restaurants?
Yes 85%
No 15%
Probably just me but I could not find the poll. Where is it on the page. Thanks.
It depends how you deal with fear. It can either be a useful emotion or a phobia.
“I read the debate; the business owner appears not to want to have guns in his establishment; the concealed weapons carrier feels unsafe going there without his concealed weapon. I come down on the side of the business owner.”
Personally, I come down on the side of the gun owner, but any place that posts a “no weapons allowed” sign just doesn’t get my business. I don’t go to bars, anyway, so for me it would be a moot point.
Legal beagles with MORE rights than the gainfully employed and source of their salaries (us)? That seems bass-ackwards.
Hidden in plain sight - I had a difficult time too. It’s on the top of the page.
I’m going to use that say, “Hidden in plain sight.” It will come in very useful at meetings. Thanks, found it.
We are trying here at VCDL to change that. We had the equal language in the bill but it was pulled out. We will keep fighting. We never stop.
AZCDL is very good too. About five years of work (and the ouster of a Commie Gubernator) culminated this year in the passage of a large number of pro-citizen bills and the defeat of all the anti-citizen ones and the anti-citizen poison pill amendments to the good ones.
Somewhere I saw a line that would be a GREAT bumper sticker: “Now is the time for all REAL Americans to put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!”
Should concealed weapons be allowed in bars and restaurants?
Yes
No
Thank you for participating in our poll. Here are the results so far:
Yes
87%
No
13%
I like it.
bwaahahaha 87% YES
smack it back down their throat with a 2 x 4
somewhere a liberal editor is wailing
No 13%
Yes they expected a big liberal vote, I'm sure.
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