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McCain Surges
07/14 06:08 PM | Robert Costa

Posted on 07/15/2010 5:14:43 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

From CNN:

Sen. John McCain is widely ahead of his two primary challengers, according to a new poll.

A Behavior Research Center survey released Thursday indicates that 64 percent of likely Arizona Republican primary voters support McCain, with19 percent backing former Rep. J.D. Hayworth, five percent supporting Jim Deakin, a Tea Party activist, and 12 percent undecided. The primary is scheduled for August 24.

Why such a gap?

"The simple reality is that McCain took his (Hayworth's) border and SB 1070 issue away from him, and then nailed him on ethics issues pertaining to being a lobbyist and so on," said Earl de Berge, Behavior Research Center's research director. "Most Republicans just pinch their nose at that stuff, and I think it just turned them off to him. It's the devil you know versus the devil you don't know."

The margin of of error for the sample in de Berge's poll is 6.9 percent.

Hayworth responds:

Hayworth spokesman Mark Sanders says the polling firm has "no credibility."



TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: hayworth; lobbyist; mccain
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1 posted on 07/15/2010 5:14:45 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is so sad-—and a bit scary. What is with Republicans that they hang onto these old farts so often?


2 posted on 07/15/2010 5:19:23 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"The simple reality is that McCain took his (Hayworth's) border and SB 1070 issue away from him"

And, true to form, a freshly re-elected McCain will flip-flop again and the pro-amnesty, anti-border security RINO we know will re-emerge.

3 posted on 07/15/2010 5:20:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The poling could be skewed.

OR

The voters have very short memories.

OR

The voters are becoming more and more stupid in this nation.

It will be interesting to see exactly what happens in August when the primary is held.


4 posted on 07/15/2010 5:20:19 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: basil

“This is so sad-—and a bit scary. What is with Republicans that they hang onto these old farts so often?”

Between the Marxist and the RINOS, what chance is there for America?
McStain should have been put out to pasture long ago.


5 posted on 07/15/2010 5:22:08 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: K-oneTexas
or maybe Arizona Republicans believe JD is a buffoon.
6 posted on 07/15/2010 5:23:15 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As long as there are Republicans that support this lying sack of $hit - there is no hope for our country. This man has done more damage to us than any other one RINO I can think of - how can any conservative go along with him?

We have got to stop making excuses and giving people like this power over us. I know this poll is probably skewed - but I have a bad, hurtful feeling that the fix is in - and the powers that be are going to win no matter what the people want. I’m sick to death of politics as usual.


7 posted on 07/15/2010 5:23:52 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’ll believe that poll if and when it happens.


8 posted on 07/15/2010 5:25:21 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: alicewonders

And people like McCain are the reason the train continues to run over us, up and down and up and down.


9 posted on 07/15/2010 5:26:12 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Hayworth needs to run continuous ads showing Juan McLame advocating amnesty and being the dims pet RINO.

Some would call it "negative" campaigning, but it is nothing more than refreshing the voters' memories.

10 posted on 07/15/2010 5:29:40 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The usurper 0bama regime is a "Clear and Present Danger" to AMERICA! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
or maybe Arizona Republicans believe JD is a buffoon.

Or, maybe they believe what Juan McCain says? Is that even a possibility among sane and rational people?

11 posted on 07/15/2010 5:30:29 AM PDT by Will88
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Unfortunately, Hayworth’s lack of fund raising has made that impossible...he didn’t generate a lot of interest money-wise...magritte


12 posted on 07/15/2010 5:34:31 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

AZ was fooled again.


13 posted on 07/15/2010 5:36:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Hayworth needs to run continuous ads showing Juan McLame advocating amnesty and being the dims pet RINO.

He also needs to run continous ads showing John McCain saying that Obama would be a fine president.

14 posted on 07/15/2010 5:38:41 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Will88
Is that even a possibility among sane and rational people?

One wouldn't think so, but the fact that JD should have name recognition in Az and can't generate any real enthusiasm I think says more about Hayworth than it does McCain.

15 posted on 07/15/2010 5:39:04 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I second that


16 posted on 07/15/2010 5:39:16 AM PDT by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the sons (and daughters) of liberty!!!! SP4P2012)
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To: magritte
Unfortunately, Hayworth’s lack of fund raising has made that impossible...he didn’t generate a lot of interest money-wise...magritte

That's not really correct. He's raised $2 million, which is a healthy amount for a challenger in a state of Arizona's size. Challengers never have the funds to match entrenched incumbents unless they are independently wealthy.

And we still have three debates and about six weeks to go, the real heart of any campaign.

17 posted on 07/15/2010 5:42:17 AM PDT by Will88
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I think says more about Hayworth than it does McCain.

No, if this poll is correct, it says a lot about a group of voters who would fall for Juan McCain's lies and flip/flops, while at the same time showing 70% or more support for their new immigration law.

If they reelect McCain, he will make these voters look like dupes and fools.

18 posted on 07/15/2010 5:45:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

For what it’s worth:

EDITOR’S NOTE: This Rocky Mountain Poll - Arizona (2010-III-01), is based on 524 interviews with
registered voters statewide conducted between June 30 and July 11, 2010 of which 190 were Republicans,
173 Democrats and 161 Independents. A total of 311 came from Maricopa, 78 in Pima and 134 in rural
areas. Where necessary, figures for age, sex, race and political party were weighted to bring them into line
with their actual proportion in the population. In a sample of this size, one can say with a 95 percent
certainty that the results have a statistical precision of plus or minus 4.4 percent of what they would have
been had the entire voter population been surveyed. The Rocky Mountain Poll is conducted by the
Behavior Research Center of Arizona and is an independent and non-partisan research program sponsored
by the Center.

http://www.brcpolls.com/10/RMP%202010-III-01.pdf


19 posted on 07/15/2010 5:45:42 AM PDT by avacado
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To: K-oneTexas

OR...they want to win the seat!


20 posted on 07/15/2010 5:46:40 AM PDT by southphilly
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To: alicewonders

I am sure he wants to do that, but Mr. Crew Cut can’t get fundraising. Maybe he should go get a tax free government loan or something he was harping about


21 posted on 07/15/2010 5:47:00 AM PDT by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the sons (and daughters) of liberty!!!! SP4P2012)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson

A margin of error of 6.9% is pretty high. I’d recommend a better study with a larger sample and better margin of error before saying anything else. This could be all outlier numbers. Other polls don’t put the race this wide apart.

While I can’t say that the fat lady is singing, I do, however, hear her clearing her throat.

The really bad thing in this is that the age of McCain means this could very likely be his last election. He’ll be an unaccountable, insider, rino systemite. He’ll wreak havoc with conservative plans.

Is there no way to rehabilitate the third candidate? Does he have more baggage than Hayworth?


22 posted on 07/15/2010 5:47:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Will88; Behind Liberal Lines

>>> Or, maybe they believe what Juan McCain says?

And how many net votes does calling McCain “Juan” win for Hayworth? The evidence says “few” if any. It’s just too lame.


23 posted on 07/15/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives

Yeah, everyone knows that Hayworth doing an infomercial is way, way, worse than the accumulated damage that the traitor John McCain has done during his political career. /sarc

I think it’s pretty obvious that McCain is pulling in all the “favors” he’s owed - he’s a slick political machine. GOD help this country!


24 posted on 07/15/2010 5:50:28 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Either the media is trying the McCain shuffle again or there are some dumb sh*t Republicans out there.


25 posted on 07/15/2010 5:51:02 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
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26 posted on 07/15/2010 5:51:43 AM PDT by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the sons (and daughters) of liberty!!!! SP4P2012)
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To: K-oneTexas
I would add a third possibility. The polling is out and out BS, pure and simple. Made up from whole cloth. With the full knowledge that they will never be called on it, and if they are they can lie their way out of it. Six weeks after the election it won't matter. If McCain wins then they will use the win to say they were ahead of the curve on predicting the outcome. If he loses they will pass it off to a miracle come-from-behind win, and their followers will buy it hook, line and sinker.

Polls have gone from being snapshots of the situation to being a method of affecting results. The MSM uses them all the time to spin stuff.

Truth is, this poll will not affect the outcome of the election more than 1 or 2 percent, if that. What it DOES do though is trick McCain's supporters into being buoyed into giving more money and support.

America faces danger on every front. From extremist, militant Islam to a Gulf of Mexico that could turn into a huge oilcano, we're under attack all around. But the biggest threat we face, IMHO, is that we've lost control of the election process. From dog catcher to President the system has lost its integrity. And every change made in the name of improving it usually turns out to be a Trojan Horse aimed at making it easier for the bad guys to exploit.

27 posted on 07/15/2010 5:52:24 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I don’t believe it. The people of Arizona have to smarter than this.


28 posted on 07/15/2010 5:53:25 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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To: jetson
...or there are some dumb sh*t Republicans out there.

Yep - as evidenced by some of the FReepers on this very thread.

29 posted on 07/15/2010 5:53:59 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

All set to “reach across the aisle” again.


30 posted on 07/15/2010 5:54:53 AM PDT by Mobties
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To: tlb
And how many net votes does calling McCain “Juan” win for Hayworth? The evidence says “few” if any. It’s just too lame.

Lol, Juan has earned the distinction of being called Juan, several times over. And calling Juan Juan is one of the milder designations for Juan.

If that bothers you, you must not have read many posts around FR. And how do you like the Juan peso that has been so popular?

And, of course, we all know Juan would never say anything uncomplimentary or unkind or UNTRUE about any political opponent.

31 posted on 07/15/2010 5:54:57 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bfltr


32 posted on 07/15/2010 5:55:01 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Will88
According to opensecrets.org, Hayworth has raised $1,074,164 to date, with McCain raising over $15 million. By comparison, challenger Scott Brown raised almost $16 million and Marco Rubio $7 million.

We'll see if any additional money can be generated after the debates, but it's late in the game...magritte
33 posted on 07/15/2010 5:55:39 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: jetson

Either the media is trying the McCain shuffle again or there are some dumb sh*t Republicans out there.

*****************

All of the above.


34 posted on 07/15/2010 5:57:03 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many Michael Steele gaffes does it take to make a pattern?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
“Hayworth needs to run continuous ads showing Juan McLame advocating amnesty and being the dims pet RINO.”

Quite True! JD needs money. The corrupt power structure has starved JD money wise. Juan is running continuous Ads with Soros money.

Help JD with donations ASAP!

35 posted on 07/15/2010 5:57:39 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I agree. Hayworth comes across as a self-promoting nut. I’m not from Arizona but I have to admit that if I were, I’d probably vote for McCain.


36 posted on 07/15/2010 6:00:43 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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I agree. Hayworth comes across as a self-promoting nut. I’m not from Arizona but I have to admit that if I were, I’d probably vote for McCain.

And how does John McCain come across to you?

37 posted on 07/15/2010 6:02:26 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: magritte
According to opensecrets.org, Hayworth has raised $1,074,164 to date, with McCain raising over $15 million. By comparison, challenger Scott Brown raised almost $16 million and Marco Rubio $7 million.

Scott Brown was a situation that will rarely be repeated, and most of that money was raised the last three or so weeks of that campaign once it caught the nation's attention where a Republican had a chance to take the Ted Kennedy seat. That can't be duplicated.

Florida's population is almost 20 million, and Arizona around 6.8 million, almost three times as large. And Rubio has had constant support from most all conservative talk show hosts and most of the establishment. JD hasn't, and many who disagree with McCain on most major issues are supporting him.

And I don't know what organization you got that figure from, or as of what date, but JD's website has shown two completed, $1 million fundraising drives.

38 posted on 07/15/2010 6:07:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Palin stepped up bigtime to help out Mclame and basically killed any early momentum for Hayworth... thanks sarah.


39 posted on 07/15/2010 6:07:14 AM PDT by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: wyowolf
Palin stepped up bigtime to help out Mclame and basically killed any early momentum for Hayworth... thanks sarah.

Ah yes, McCain and the Politicians that enable him - Politics as usual, I'd say.

40 posted on 07/15/2010 6:10:50 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

thats the really sad part of this for me. I was a big SP supporter early on, now its just same old same. We are never gonna get ahead with people like Mclame back in. They are mostly the reason we are HERE!! what good will it do to get back the house/senate only to be screwed every time Juan wants to “maverick” himself??

With people like Mclame back in, you might as well leave a rat majority, that is in effect what you are doing on anything of substance...


41 posted on 07/15/2010 6:16:17 AM PDT by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: alicewonders

McCain ran negative campaign ads saying Hayworth was a big spender, earmarks...seems the general public bought it. Hayworth also has some local enemies that Grant Woods, ex attorney general, Sam Coppersmith, the former Chairman of the Democrat party and a former Congressman, also, has said stuff against him in a column on the Az Republic for years. He called JD a Nazi because Jd Hayworth, in his book quoted Henry Ford, about immigration. Henry Ford evidently got a reward from Hitler, and so Coppersmith, wanting the Dem to get elected, (Harry Mitchell) took on a smear campaign in the ever ready Az Republic, the same paper that was a comlete toady to Janet Napolitano and is pro immigration.


42 posted on 07/15/2010 6:16:24 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Meant to write ‘has some local enemies, Grant Woods,...”


43 posted on 07/15/2010 6:17:59 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: wyowolf

Agree with every single word you said. There are a lot of us out here, and speaking for myself - I’m disillusioned as hell.


44 posted on 07/15/2010 6:19:22 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Beowulf9

Yep. I’m not holding out much hope for us in 2012. With people like McCain back in the senate, we’re screwed.


45 posted on 07/15/2010 6:20:23 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Push poll. But they work.


46 posted on 07/15/2010 6:21:40 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How long after the election will the new immigration hawk have another change of heart?

I can’t believe Arizona has such a short memory.


47 posted on 07/15/2010 6:26:30 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: basil

Republicans deserve what they get if they can’t draw together and get rid of these RINOs. I’m disgusted, but hoping against hope that this just isn’t true.


48 posted on 07/15/2010 6:28:22 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy blue)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; fieldmarshaldj
or maybe Arizona Republicans believe JD is a buffoon.

Trying to run a serious campaign when you are viewed as the new Matt Lesko is a difficult business. Stick a fork in JD folks.

49 posted on 07/15/2010 6:28:22 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I can’t believe Arizona has such a short memory.

It's just like the people in West Virginia with Robert Byrd - they're being bought off.

50 posted on 07/15/2010 6:28:40 AM PDT by alicewonders
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