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Union: Hawker may make massive cuts (Wichita, KS: Beechcraft)
The Wichta Eagle ^ | Thu, Jul. 15, 2010 | MOLLY McMILLIN

Posted on 07/15/2010 7:28:34 AM PDT by avg_freeper

Union officials said Wednesday that Hawker Beechcraft is considering moving work out of Wichita that could shrink its hourly work force 50 to 75 percent over the next two years.

Union and company leaders met Wednesday about the future of the Wichita facility and its jobs, the union said.

"The outlook given by the company was bleak for the future," Machinists District 70 president Steve Rooney said in a letter to workers.

"The picture we are getting is of a Hawker Beechcraft Wichita that will shrink almost immediately down to 25 percent or more within two years, without a guarantee of even the last few jobs staying.''

The company issued a statement in response to Rooney's letter to union members:

"Last September the company initiated a series of meetings to update the union leadership about serious challenges it faces during these unprecedented economic times," the statement said. "These conversations have included a spectrum of possibilities for the company's future footprint and the likely impact on its workforce in all its locations.

"The company values this partnership and believes that there is a great opportunity available to us to work together to influence a positive outcome."

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: beechcraft; hawker; hbc; wichita; wichta

1 posted on 07/15/2010 7:28:38 AM PDT by avg_freeper
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To: avg_freeper

Obama Union scum deserve whatever they get.


2 posted on 07/15/2010 7:31:34 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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To: avg_freeper
Unions support Obama and the Democrats. Actions have consequences.
3 posted on 07/15/2010 7:31:41 AM PDT by Bookie1066 (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: avg_freeper

Wah. Go to the union for financial help. With any good luck, Beechcraft will move to a right-to-work state.


4 posted on 07/15/2010 7:38:56 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: tgusa

Kansas is right to work.


5 posted on 07/15/2010 7:41:29 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper
Hawker Beechcraft is seeking a long-term contract with the Machinists, but it wants one that "strips you of your union rights, without any long-term guarantees at all," the letter said.

Life's a bitch. The only long term job guarantee I have depends on whether or not I make my company money.

6 posted on 07/15/2010 7:50:10 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: avg_freeper

Didn’t know that, thanks-


7 posted on 07/15/2010 7:50:52 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: avg_freeper
Where are the 737 fuselages built?


8 posted on 07/15/2010 7:52:07 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tgusa
With any good luck, Beechcraft will move to a right-to-work state.

Nope. From the story: "Hawker Beechcraft cut 2,700 jobs in Wichita in 2009 and cut or issued layoff notices to 375 Wichita workers this year. It also closed its Salina facility, with half of the work going to the company's plant in Mexico and the rest to outside suppliers and vendors. The Salina plant employed about 240 people."

Fly the friendly skies in an El Hawker or La Beechcraft.

9 posted on 07/15/2010 7:54:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: avg_freeper

I guess Barry will just have to seize them and turn them into a Workers Cooperative...


10 posted on 07/15/2010 7:56:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Paladin2
"Where are the 737 fuselages built?"

Some years ago Boeing sold that production facility to a company called "Spirit AeroSystems" I think that's where they're manufactured. Spirit is on the South East side of Wichita by McConnell AFB and Boeing Military.

HBC is on the East central side.

Learjet and Cessna are on the other side of town.

11 posted on 07/15/2010 8:00:18 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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......a spectrum of possibilities for the company’s future footprint......

The foot print is going to look like a boot mark across the throat and windpipe


12 posted on 07/15/2010 8:00:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: avg_freeper

......a spectrum of possibilities for the company’s future footprint......

The foot print is going to look like a bootheel mark across the union throat and windpipe


13 posted on 07/15/2010 8:01:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: FormerACLUmember

You can rest assured
The Union Bigs will get paid.
That’s the real Job One.


14 posted on 07/15/2010 8:02:19 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (There are 10 kinds of people: Those who get binary math, and those who don't.)
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To: avg_freeper

Well, with the economy the way it is, and the unions always grubbing for more, and Zero up there tearing up executives for flying in private jets...the market for Hawkers and Beechjets and King Airs probably isn’t too good nowadays.

}:-)4


15 posted on 07/15/2010 8:04:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (November 2, 2010--the day that "YES WE CAN" becomes "OH NO YOU DIN'T")
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To: avg_freeper

And naturally the union wants Hussein to step and and make everything alright!! In other words, intimidate/force the dirty, evil, capitalist company to remain open and lose money. Then Hussein can declare it insolvent, take it over and finance the unionites with taxpayer money!


16 posted on 07/15/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: avg_freeper
but we (Machinists union) will not be blamed or left holding the bag

Wanna bet? Well, you might get lifetime unemployment.

17 posted on 07/15/2010 8:09:47 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: avg_freeper

Ok, nothing to do with the thread but is this the same Hawker company that made the British war planes? Did they merge with Beechcraft at some point?


18 posted on 07/15/2010 8:50:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Yes, same company but only their commercial assets were combined with Beechcraft I believe.


19 posted on 07/15/2010 8:55:04 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Obama Union scum deserve whatever they get.

A whole lumber company shut down in my area(Northern CA)back in 1998 because of the Union members refusing to take across the board pay cuts, so the company sold and the new owner shut it down and sent the timber to other lumber mills about 50 miles away. The company owned it's own timber supply so was not hampered by government regs as much as other companies and could have stayed in business with the pay cuts. Instead we now have a whole county still crippled by the loss of 600 good paying jobs with great health benefits.

Even though I consider that there sre some good points to Unions, the bad points out weight the good, they foster an entitlement mentality being the worst of the points.

20 posted on 07/15/2010 8:56:15 AM PDT by calex59
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To: avg_freeper

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Machinists_Reject_Hawker_Beechcraft_Deal_203447-1.html


21 posted on 10/18/2010 10:12:25 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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