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Break With the Past: Changing a dorm name makes a good step....
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 7/14/10 | Unknown

Posted on 07/15/2010 8:56:19 AM PDT by BnBlFlag

Break with the Past: Changing a dorm name makes a good Step towards healing UT's troubled racial history

After several months of discussion within the University of Texas community in Austin, UT President William Powers Jr. will ask the school's board of regents today to consider renaming a dorm that now honors a former law professor, William Stewart Simkins, along with a neighboring park dedicated to his brother Eldred, a judge and UT regent.

The reason? Simkins was not only a legal educator at UT from 1899-1929. He and his brother were members of the Ku Klux Klan during a period in which it terrorized black communities through lynchings and shootings and dozens of murders.

In a 1916 article in the UT alumni magazine, The Alcalde, professor Simkins boasted of participating in the Klan's infamous night rides: "The immediate effect upon the Negro was wonderful," he wrote, "the flitting to and fro of masked horses and faces struck terror to the race."

A former UT law professor, Tom Russell, helped ignite the campus controversy over 55-year-old Simkins Residence Hall with a paper detailing the professor's dark past. The paper also explores the UT leadership's last-ditch efforts to resist integration following the U.S. Supreme Court's historic Brown v. Board of Education ruling in 1954 that struck down separate but equal education systems. UT responded by instituting admission tests designed to exclude a disproportionate number of African-American applicants.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicbias; austin; byrd; doublestandard; eldredsimkins; kkk; klansman; memoryhole; politicalcorrectness; revisionisthistory; robertbyrd; robertsheetbyrd; simkins; southernheritage; tomrussell; ut; williamsimkins
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The Carpet bagger contingent which now dominates the UT Administration is now at it again. The now President of the University is from UC-Berkely. That tells you all you need to know about him. (And the Chronicle Editorial Board is no better. No one defends the Klan but we're talking about a totally different era. They're real goal is to remove all Confederate Statues from the campus and wipe out all mention of the Confederacy while they're at it. So far they've been unsuccessful at that so they're going after an easier target. Then they'll be back for more.
1 posted on 07/15/2010 8:56:21 AM PDT by BnBlFlag
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To: wardaddy; stainlessbanner

wd - Looks like Ole Miss has a little competition going to see who can erase the Confederacy from their schools first!
SB - Southern Heritage Ping!


2 posted on 07/15/2010 9:01:38 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Center
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3 posted on 07/15/2010 9:02:14 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: BnBlFlag

As always liberals use incrementalism to achieve their ends, and as usual, demonstrate their utter hypocrisy. Any similar calls in West Virginia to change the name on thousands of taxpayer-funded momunents to the longest-serving KKK member in the Senate?


4 posted on 07/15/2010 9:03:10 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: evets

Thank you!


5 posted on 07/15/2010 9:03:51 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

I’d agree to a dorm name change if the college adds a “Walk of Sleaze” to dishonor Sharpton-loon, and the “Idol of Idiocy” in commemoration of Jesse Jack-O-lope.


6 posted on 07/15/2010 9:04:37 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: BnBlFlag

So what shall we call the Washington DC?, Washington Monument? The Jefferson Memorial etc?

We are eat up with stupid.


7 posted on 07/15/2010 9:05:00 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: BnBlFlag

What’s the big deal? I’m sure it was just a fleeting association with the Klan for a couple of good ole boys who were just tryin’ to get elected.


8 posted on 07/15/2010 9:06:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: BnBlFlag

UT should hire slick willie to come down and give a speech to rehablitate the Simkins image and the controversy would go away.


9 posted on 07/15/2010 9:07:26 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: evets

Thanks for posting that. I was going to comment about everything named for the klansman Byrd but I didn’t have a list.


10 posted on 07/15/2010 9:08:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (We couldn't keep the commandments when there was only ONE!)
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To: BnBlFlag
He and his brother were members of the Ku Klux Klan during a period in which it terrorized black communities through lynchings and shootings and dozens of murders.

In other words, they were Democrats.

11 posted on 07/15/2010 9:08:46 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: BnBlFlag

Vandy did it too.

One day there will be no vestige of whiteness left in whatever the new peoples will call this land.

Everything will be named after anything non white.

White history is a crime don’t ya know.

or it could go the other way folks get mad enough but i doubt it


12 posted on 07/15/2010 9:08:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: BnBlFlag

My freshman dorm was named “Drinker Hall”.

How true that turned out to be.


13 posted on 07/15/2010 9:09:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Common Sense 101

“As always liberals use incrementalism to achieve their ends, and as usual, demonstrate their utter hypocrisy.”

Yep. As mntioned, they think its a “good first step”.


14 posted on 07/15/2010 9:15:40 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
professor Simkins boasted of participating in the Klan's infamous night rides: "The immediate effect upon the Negro was wonderful," he wrote, "the flitting to and fro of masked horses and faces struck terror to the race."

Is that really the sort of guy you want to honor...?

15 posted on 07/15/2010 9:20:45 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: BnBlFlag

The reason? Simkins was not only a legal educator at UT from 1899-1929. He and his brother were members of the Ku Klux Klan during a period in which it terrorized black communities through lynchings and shootings and dozens of murders.


Stupid people get their history from the movies. The KKK was against a lot of things......................


16 posted on 07/15/2010 9:21:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Stupid people get their history from the movies. The KKK was against a lot of things......................

And if the guy boasted about it in print .... what then?

17 posted on 07/15/2010 9:23:13 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: PeterPrinciple
The KKK was against a lot of things......................

They sure were. Like Jews and Catholics.

From the offered quote, this Simkins character seems like a particularly cowardly and despicable example of a Democrat.

18 posted on 07/15/2010 9:29:18 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: r9etb

This is not about honoring Simkins as much as the Carpet Baggers (And some Scalawags) trying to erase anything about the Confederacy which is a large part of Texas History. The title of the article calls it “a good first step”. Reread the Chronicle editorial - They want to re name everything!
The President of the University should be fired and ran out of the state on a rail.


19 posted on 07/15/2010 9:30:12 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: r9etb

20 posted on 07/15/2010 9:34:11 AM PDT by stormer
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To: BnBlFlag
This is not about honoring Simkins as much as the Carpet Baggers (And some Scalawags) trying to erase anything about the Confederacy which is a large part of Texas History.

It most certainly is about honoring Simkins. They generally don't name dorms or parks after criminals.

And based on Simkins' boastful quote -- from which we may justifiably conclude that he took part in lynchings....

So I ask again: is that the sort of guy you want to honor?

21 posted on 07/15/2010 9:34:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: stormer

lol!


22 posted on 07/15/2010 9:35:56 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

within a week of flying all their flags at half staff for Bobby Byrd no doubt


23 posted on 07/15/2010 9:46:46 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: BnBlFlag

I spent 2 years in Simkins Hall when I was a student at UT.

Shame on them. Now they will not get my alumni donation .....again.


24 posted on 07/15/2010 9:46:46 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Maceman

Good point, (in other words they were Democrats). Idea sparked here...no reference should be made to the Klan without the modifier “Democrat”...as in, “he was a member of the Democrat Klan.”


25 posted on 07/15/2010 9:54:08 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (My shadow is my graffiti)
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To: BnBlFlag

“UT responded by instituting admission tests designed to exclude a disproportionate number of African-American applicants.”

Admission tests designed to exclude a disproportionate number of stupid applicants.


26 posted on 07/15/2010 9:57:38 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: r9etb
The elimination of history is not conducted by starting with erasing the names of the most upstanding and valorous. Rather it begins by scrubbing from the page the names of those who are most conspicuous in their mis-deeds as well.

Of course, then the next in line is the worst, by process of elimination, and the criteria for elimination become progressively less until capricious dislike is sufficient.

If the man was honored by having a campus building named after him, either it was for something beneficial and non-nefarious, or the entire institution should be held to account for having so honored him.

27 posted on 07/15/2010 10:02:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The elimination of history is not conducted by starting with erasing the names of the most upstanding and valorous. Rather it begins by scrubbing from the page the names of those who are most conspicuous in their mis-deeds as well. Of course, then the next in line is the worst, by process of elimination, and the criteria for elimination become progressively less until capricious dislike is sufficient.

Ah, I see. One may reasonably surmise from his quote that Mr. Simkins participated in lynchings: and if so he was a murderer. You're saying that we should maintain the honor given to a likely murderer ... just to defend history, doncha know.

If the man was honored by having a campus building named after him, either it was for something beneficial and non-nefarious, or the entire institution should be held to account for having so honored him.

Simpkins was more than just a garden variety racist; he acted out on it. He might well have been honored for being nefarious; or, they may just have a tradition of naming buildings after past presidents.

Nevertheless, his activities were certainly no great secret, since he boasted about his them in an alumni magazine: he was proud of them; and the people of his time were obviously not ignorant of the facts.

More generally, one might say that the evidence points to UT having a dark past in regards to blacks. Simpkins was apparently just a particularly egregious example of a more general problem. Maybe they should be held to account.

28 posted on 07/15/2010 10:15:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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The reason? Simkins was not only a legal educator at UT from 1899-1929. He and his brother were members of the Ku Klux Klan during a period in which it terrorized black communities through lynchings and shootings and dozens of murders.

They should change the name... right after everything with Robert K. Byrd's name on it has it's name changed. But until then..

NOT!


29 posted on 07/15/2010 10:30:21 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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"Russell is a frequent media commenter regarding legal issues. Russell once was a candidate for the Colorado House of Representatives and has been active in health-care reform. A native of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Russell now lives in Denver’s Lowry neighborhood with his wife and two children."

Source: http://houseofrussell.com/Site/Home.html

30 posted on 07/15/2010 10:34:13 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: BnBlFlag
"...UT's troubled racial history..."
So says you, author. I don't find any of it troubling. What I do find troubling is the leftist media constantly attempting to frame the debate.
31 posted on 07/15/2010 10:35:23 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: r9etb
"...So I ask again: is that the sort of guy you want to honor?..."
Lighten up, Francis. In his day, he was not doing anything abnormal or exceptional. He was not a criminal by the standards of his day. We cannot judge people in the past by the standards of today. To do so is lame-o.
32 posted on 07/15/2010 10:42:22 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: r9etb
More generally, one might say that the evidence points to UT having a dark past in regards to blacks.

What evidence? This stupid article on this particular incident?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

33 posted on 07/15/2010 10:57:49 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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What evidence? This stupid article on this particular incident? You have no idea what you're talking about.

It's a matter of record. A couple of examples from the article:

"UT previously had refused to admit black students after World War II, resulting in a 1946 lawsuit by Heman Sweatt, who was represented by future Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall....

UT's supporters in the Legislature, in order to provide a separate-but-equal legal defense for segregation, passed a bill creating what would become Texas Southern University in Houston."

It's no use pretending that such racial discrimination (and worse) did not take place in Texas and elsewhere. It really did. And Mr. Simkins appears to be a poster child for just how far some folks were willing to go.

34 posted on 07/15/2010 11:05:20 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: I Buried My Guns
I don't find any of it troubling.

"Professor Simkins boasted of participating in the Klan's infamous night rides: 'The immediate effect upon the Negro was wonderful,' he wrote, 'the flitting to and fro of masked horses and faces struck terror to the race.'"

You don't find any of it troubling?

35 posted on 07/15/2010 11:07:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: I Buried My Guns
Lighten up, Francis. In his day, he was not doing anything abnormal or exceptional. He was not a criminal by the standards of his day. We cannot judge people in the past by the standards of today. To do so is lame-o.

I rather doubt that lynching was legal, even by the standards of his day.... And it seems quite likely that Mr. Simkins played those games.

And if Texas did not pursue or prosecute those who took part in those acts of murder, that is nothing to be proud of.

It's amazing the lengths to which you fellows will go to excuse the inexcusable.

36 posted on 07/15/2010 11:11:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: BnBlFlag

Fox News just had a blip on this. The new name is “Waller Hall” since it is close to Waller Creek.


37 posted on 07/15/2010 12:09:13 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: stainlessbanner

“Russell is a frequent media commenter regarding legal issues. Russell once was a candidate for the Colorado House of Representatives and has been active in health-care reform. A native of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Russell now lives in Denver’s Lowry neighborhood with his wife and two children.”

Why am I not surprised?


38 posted on 07/15/2010 12:24:08 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: r9etb
"...It's amazing the lengths to which you fellows will go to excuse the inexcusable..."
"You fellows"?

"YOU FELLOWS"?

That's racist !

39 posted on 07/15/2010 1:05:05 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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"...And it seems quite likely that Mr. Simkins played those games..."
Well golly, it seems "quite likely" that you molested my puppy last night, but since I have no proof of that, that statement is merely conjecture, just like your comments are.

Anybody can make wild claims. And no, I know you didn't molest my puppy. It was FReeper Colonel Kangaroo. He hates puppies, as well as anything involving Southern pride. This thread is lamer by his absence. I miss his irrational hatred sometimes.

40 posted on 07/15/2010 1:11:27 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: stainlessbanner; BnBlFlag

figures

and lookee see...same old white bashers here as usual

race....their guiding light


41 posted on 07/15/2010 1:37:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: r9etb; Smokin' Joe; stainlessbanner; BnBlFlag; wideawake; Travis McGee; Black Agnes
Hey asshat....did the nest (where's marine whatshisname anyhow?...and dogz?) get a memo today to come preen about racism on the forum?

btw....smokin joe has a hell of a lot more credibility and LEGITIMACY to bitch about white on black racism should he choose than you and your little band of idjits like stormer can ever hope for in your bigoted zeal.

By your standards we can simply start by purging evryone who ever acted “racist or racialist” as a white man towards any minority from the founders and onwards

which means there won't be jack left but you silly poseurs giving it up for Sharia law and the rest of us will be relegated to some forgotten dustbin

i hope you enjoy it

crackers like you numbnuts are what gave us Obama...thanks u weakminded doofuss

42 posted on 07/15/2010 1:47:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: I Buried My Guns
"YOU FELLOWS"?

don't you know....all cracker babies who must be killed are the same

43 posted on 07/15/2010 1:48:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: wardaddy
I wish you the best of luck in your ongoing struggle to master the English language.

The people of the state of Texas are free to decide whether or not they want to honor an individual whose two claims to fame are being a lifelong Klansman and a lifelong academic.

Those are their tax dollars.

Simkins should definitely be remembered as a cautionary tale - filth like him are, sadly, an important part of American history - but the people of Texas are under no obligation to remember him with a fancy public building.

44 posted on 07/15/2010 1:56:23 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: BnBlFlag

Time to take the name of Robert Byrd, Klansman and KKK recruiter, off of all of those civic properties in West Virginia.


45 posted on 07/15/2010 2:19:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: r9etb
You're saying that we should maintain the honor given to a likely murderer ... just to defend history, doncha know.

No. Go back and re-read what I said. The first part was a general comment about the destruction of our history. History is history. warts and all. This Southerner may be stripped of his honors justifiably, but there is no denying the systematic removal of those who are judged by changing criteria of what is considered honorable (and again, I'm not defending this guy in particular).

Toward the end of your comment you showed signs of getting what I meant. Sometimes the conferring of 'honor' says more about those doing the honoring in the long run than the one who was 'honored'. (Take the recent crop of Nobel Prize winners, for example.)

46 posted on 07/15/2010 2:47:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: wardaddy
Hey asshat....

Amazingly, you could have stopped typing right there. I'm not going to read whatever pile of crap you dropped on your shoes after that.

47 posted on 07/15/2010 3:19:28 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Smokin' Joe
No. Go back and re-read what I said. The first part was a general comment about the destruction of our history.

And then you implied -- not subtly -- that removing this guy's name from the dorm was just the first step in that process.

48 posted on 07/15/2010 3:21:10 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: wardaddy
Everything will be named after anything non white.

Well, except for the sports teams.

49 posted on 07/15/2010 4:26:15 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: r9etb; wardaddy

“No. Go back and re-read what I said. The first part was a general comment about the destruction of our history.
And then you implied — not subtly — that removing this guy’s name from the dorm was just the first step in that process.”

That’s exactly what was mentioned in the article - a first step. Actually, it’s not the first step. PC has infected every major Academic Institution in the South (and the rest of the country as well). So it’s just the first step in a continued campaign to erase any type of Southern Heritage from the “hallowed” halls of academia. Like I said in a previous post. Simkins is not the real target here. It’s the Confederate Statues, monuments, and names commemerating the Confederacy they’re after. IOW, Southern Heritage.
Of course, I’m sure you agree with that as well though.
Where in the Hell are you from anyway? I figure you for a PC Yankee. If so, mind your own friggin’ business (then you won’t be mindin’ ours).


50 posted on 07/15/2010 4:48:06 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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