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Top 9 Mistakes Of Prepping
http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2010/06/07/top-9-mistakes-of-prepping/ ^

Posted on 07/16/2010 11:33:58 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

1. Following the wrong advice: Many new survivalist become fixated upon the advice given by others. They read the latest preparedness book or blog post and automatically assume the advice given is best them, without considering their individual needs, skill level or location. In order to be self-reliant you need to learn to think for yourself.

2. Not eating what they store: Many new survivalist fill their pantry with unfamiliar foods, thinking they will adapt their diet “when the time comes” this is nonsense. You need to learn how to prepare and use these foods now, so they become a familiar staple.

3. Relying only on their food storage: Many new survivalist think once they have their one year supply of survival foods, that’s the end. Don’t get me wrong, having a deep larder is important, just don’t overlook the possibility of needing to replenish your supplies, and obtaining the skills and resources needed to do that.

4. Not storing enough salt: Many new survivalist fail to store this staple in the quantities needed. Don’t discount the importance of salt. I suggest at least ten pounds of iodized salt per person as a minimum.

5. Building an arsenal: I see this all the time. Many new survivalist spend thousands on weapons and related gear, yet have only a two-week supply food and no water filter. This is stupid. I love guns and gear as much as the next person – but I know food and water are more important to my survival. Sure; we need weapons to protect what we’ve put away, just don’t neglect the other stuff.

6. Relying on bugging out: I’m not a fan of the “grab a bug out bag and head for the hills survival strategy”. In most cases you’re better off staying where you are. Having a bug out bag is a good idea, just don’t make bugging out your only plan or first priority.

7. To much stuff not enough skill: Many new survivalist believe they can be saved though buying. This fantasy has been promoted by self-serving survival gurus for years to fill their pockets with cash. Sure supplies are useful and some are needed – just don’t become dependent on stuff instead develop your skills.

8. Storing only one type of food: More than a few new survivalist have made this mistake. I can’t remember exactly where I read it, I think it was on another survival blog – but the author suggested his readers store hundreds of pounds of wheat and nothing else. While wheat is the backbone of my food storage, storing only one type of food, no matter how versatile is foolish.

9. Not taking care of pet needs: Many new survivalist fail to consider the needs of their pets. If you have pets you must plan for their needs by laying back the necessary supplies to keep them fed and healthy.


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1 posted on 07/16/2010 11:34:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Ping.


2 posted on 07/16/2010 11:38:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fearless person cannot be controlled.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

During the dec 2010 snowstorm in WV, our batteries didnt last 2 days. 3 of my 4 flashlights went totally dead.

The snowstorm was mostly a surprise, so we didnt have enough food on hand.


3 posted on 07/16/2010 11:39:27 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Baffled as to why, should one have to go survivalist, one would even waste the time and resources to maintain “pets”. What one would need would be dogs of the large, loyal, and appropriately vicious variety.


4 posted on 07/16/2010 11:40:19 AM PDT by Marechal
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To: Red in Blue PA

“5. Building an arsenal: I see this all the time. Many new survivalist spend thousands on weapons and related gear, yet have only a two-week supply food and no water filter. This is stupid...”

If you have plenty of guns and ammo... food & water is easy to get !!!


5 posted on 07/16/2010 11:41:11 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Marechal
one would even waste the time and resources to maintain “pets”.

One could insert "elderly", "affirm" and many other things for "pets". People who have animals understand.
6 posted on 07/16/2010 11:41:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA
#10, prepping without planning. Take the time to figure out what you need for your family and prioritize purchases. One step at a time - consistently - will save you money and headaches. Your initial plan will change over time as you get better at it. Mini-disasters likes blizzards, or everyone getting the flu are good times to assess how well you're doing.

#11, blabbing to liberal friends and family and the local paper that you are a prepper.

7 posted on 07/16/2010 11:43:28 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Red in Blue PA

When I see a recipe posted for “Donner Party Stew” then I’ll now that it’s really hit the fan.


8 posted on 07/16/2010 11:43:38 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, or is it Mr. Stone or Mr. Woody? Whatever, you're under arrest.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

That’s why I also have the wind up kind, solar kind too.

P.S. those solar walkway lights, make a good flashlight...


9 posted on 07/16/2010 11:44:25 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: maddog55
If you have plenty of guns and ammo... food & water is easy to get !!!

This is ridiculous "logic", and sounds like something an obamabot might say, taking the preparations of others because they were too lazy to prepare.

It also ignores the fact of a SHTF scenario where you may get food from someone else, only to be shot in the back yourself. I am amazed everytim I read this line.

It is ignorant, but moreso, it is false. Try coming to get my food and water....I am also armed.


10 posted on 07/16/2010 11:44:45 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Freddd

those shake flashlights arent worth a hoot..stay away from those.


11 posted on 07/16/2010 11:46:01 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: meowmeow
#11, blabbing to liberal friends and family and the local paper that you are a prepper.

Indeed!

OPSEC should be #1, #2, and #3 of prepping.

I would go one step further. In a SHTF scenario, act like you are starving even if you are not.
12 posted on 07/16/2010 11:46:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

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13 posted on 07/16/2010 11:47:23 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You come to my house to try and take my families food, Ill have your guns, your boots, flashlights, other weapons and they’ll find your ragged corpse sometime next spring..unless I can get to a mine shaft, in which case you’ll never be found.


14 posted on 07/16/2010 11:48:05 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: maddog55

” If you have plenty of guns and ammo... food & water is easy to get !!! “

If, by that, you mean that you’re planning to go ‘predator’ and start looting and pillaging, I invite you to start with my little town —

I and my neighbors will gladly help you make intimate - but, unfortunately, short - acquaintance with the Town Square tree...


15 posted on 07/16/2010 11:48:08 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And then there will be the folks surrounded by a year of food boxes and ammo cases, lying there with an empty bottle of heart medication.


16 posted on 07/16/2010 11:49:46 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
"During the dec 2010 snowstorm in WV, our batteries didnt last 2 days."

Fortunately you have enough time to buy more batteries and prepare for it this December.
17 posted on 07/16/2010 11:49:50 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: Red in Blue PA
"...don’t overlook the possibility of needing to replenish your supplies, and obtaining the skills and resources needed to do that."


18 posted on 07/16/2010 11:50:30 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Red in Blue PA
6. Relying on bugging out: I’m not a fan of the “grab a bug out bag and head for the hills survival strategy”. In most cases you’re better off staying where you are. Having a bug out bag is a good idea, just don’t make bugging out your only plan or first priority.

Depends on where you live. Here in Crook County Illinois the chances of riding out a storm aren't that good. Too close to the looties on the near West side. Most looters won't drive far to loot, especially if gas get difficult to find. So two hours from a major urban population mass is probably the closest that you would want to try to ride it out.

Of course even if you intend to bug out you need to have a plan for survival in place. You may not be able to get out due to closed, jammed roads or the sudden onset of the emergency. Civil unrest rarely gives you a lot of warning. Something sets it off and by the time you realize its time to go, get the family together and get the car packed it may be too late to go anyplace. While plan A may be to GTFO you need to be prepared to fort up for a few weeks and wait for a better opportunity to make your run.
19 posted on 07/16/2010 11:51:34 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“6. Relying on bugging out: I’m not a fan of the “grab a bug out bag and head for the hills survival strategy”. In most cases you’re better off staying where you are. Having a bug out bag is a good idea, just don’t make bugging out your only plan or first priority.”

If you don’t a prepared place(Somewhere secure and stocked)bugging out makes you a refugee and history has repetedly shown us what happens to refugees.

For those who wish you may want to download my Preparedness Manual at:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tyoktknynnl


20 posted on 07/16/2010 11:52:15 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: maddog55

The people you plan on getting that food and water from have outthought you.

They have food, water AND guns and are ready to use them whe you show up.


21 posted on 07/16/2010 11:52:19 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Red in Blue PA

A hunting dog is one thing I never hear about. I watch my dog hunt down in our meadow and I suspect that if we ever get into an SHTF scenario, the dog will be extremely valuable.

Dogs were built by God to hunt. I take their skills seriously.


22 posted on 07/16/2010 11:53:19 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Marechal
"Baffled as to why, should one have to go survivalist, one would even waste the time and resources to maintain “pets”. What one would need would be dogs of the large, loyal, and appropriately vicious variety."

Hmmmm...in an EMP event, or gasoline shortage, a horse just might have a little utility. Have fun pedaling your mountain bike.

When trash collection ceases, especially in an urban or suburban area, there will be two kinds of people: those with cats, and those with rats.

Of course dogs are early warning and protection, but smaller breeds can also do double duty as ratters, and if you live in a rural area and plan on hunting to supplement your subsistence, a hunting dog or two just might come in handy.

23 posted on 07/16/2010 11:54:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Kartographer; All

Everyone should also have a copy of this printed out:

http://www.humboldt.edu/~hsusnc/FM%2021-76%20US%20ARMY%20SURVIVAL%20MANUAL.pdf


24 posted on 07/16/2010 11:54:47 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Armedanddangerous; maddog55
You come to my house to try and take my families food,Ill have your guns, your boots, flashlights, other weapons and they’ll find your ragged corpse sometime next spring..unless I can get to a mine shaft, in which case you’ll never be found.

Amen, Armedanddangerous...

25 posted on 07/16/2010 11:55:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous - Einstein.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I think the author of the list is undervaluing the opportunities for barter. I'm guessing that somebody with a good store of wheat would be able to trade for salt, for example.

Ammunition will be sought by everyone who has or gets a gun and who didn't set some aside. Ammo is probably one of the best barter commodities.

Salt might be the same. Candles, matches, needles, thread, fishing hooks, bleach, antiseptics, and even alkaline batteries will be in demand. If people are surviving in place, meaning that they don't have to leave their homes and stored goods, then even in my very rural area there will be many hundreds of families within five miles who would be quite willing to trade.

The biggest threat will be the "government" accusing preppers of hoarding and demanding that committees decide who gets the goods.

One of my biggest problems will be that I am on a well and can't store a great quantity of gas for the generator to run the well. In a real emergency the generator will be run for just minutes while water containers are refilled. But when the gas runs out, more will have to be obtained.

26 posted on 07/16/2010 11:55:47 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Agree with all of the items you mention as potential barter items. Saw one on a survivalist board awhile back which makes some sense......a few bottle of Jack Daniels.


27 posted on 07/16/2010 11:57:38 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bookmark. Thanks for posting!


28 posted on 07/16/2010 11:59:20 AM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Rats = protein.

I would never let a cat or a terrier get first dibs on the juciest rats ;)


29 posted on 07/16/2010 11:59:26 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Solar Wind

I’ve decided to put up beans - found this killer bean pot (buried fire recipe), dried and canned cheese and milk, rice, of course, oil, spices and corn wheat and flour. I already eat lots of mexican food and can live happily on bean and cheese burritos.

And also figure out a way to provide power to the water well pump.

I haven’t figured out why I feel the need to do this yet.


30 posted on 07/16/2010 12:01:06 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: stormer
I have had conversations with friends/acquaintances wherein I try to get them to take responsibility for themselves and think about long-term survival plans. Nothing extreme, just stocking up on canned food, and buying a few boxes of ammo, rather than buying that new Harley Davidson.

To a man they scoff at any of it, as if to prep is top be a loser, and to live for the day, like their peers, is to "WIN". A few even make the cocky and arrogant comment that when TSHTF, they'll just come over to my house, because they know I am a kook who plans ahead and has food stored up. They are taken aback when I tell them that anyone who tries to get into my house ininvited will water my lawn with their blood, and any females who live will be bartered away into sexual slavery for supplies and ammo.

I have lost a few fairweather friends because of this, but maybe in the long run it will snap them out of their apathy. The thing is, though I may like tyhem as friends, I have zero moral mandate to look after those who refuse to look after themselves. "Some Christian you are" one said, only to be informed that the Bible is not a suicide pact. God commands you to take care of your responsibilites, and if you refuse to do that, you'd best begin praying to the FEMA god.

31 posted on 07/16/2010 12:02:50 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Marechal

“Baffled as to why, should one have to go survivalist, one would even waste the time and resources to maintain “pets”.”

They aren’t “pets” in a crash. Theft will become widespread. Can you keep someone in your family awake 24 hours a day? There’s a reason dogs and humans have hung together for millenia. They bark when someone gets in your garage at 3am. They will engage a burglar for the 20 seconds it takes you to wake up, orient, and get your gun.

And, as much as I dislike cats, rodent control becomes much more important when things fall apart.


32 posted on 07/16/2010 12:04:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: William Tell

” One of my biggest problems will be that I am on a well and can’t store a great quantity of gas for the generator to run the well. “

Old fashioned manual pumps can be found easily in antique stores and flea markets - and they’re easy to repair and refurbish....

(It might be worth a 6-pack to have the local plumber come over on a Sunday afternoon and show ya how to install it..)

When planning for SHTF scenarios, plan for worst-case: no electricity, phones, gasoline, services available.. And don’t plan on going-it-alone — kick things around with a small (emphasize ‘small’) group of trusted neighbors...

JMO, of course


33 posted on 07/16/2010 12:05:20 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Is that you, Mr. Liddy?

If you're going to that length, it's easier to make a maggot farm...they're actually a purer source of protein than rats, are more hygenic and have medical value in debriding wounds. You also expend a lot less energy in procuring them than you would in catching a rat.

34 posted on 07/16/2010 12:05:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL, I forgout about Liddy’s long rants about eating rats as a kid.

However, I can stomach a rat much easier, since I’ve already eaten squirrel, snake, etc. Maggots make me gag on sight.


35 posted on 07/16/2010 12:07:55 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: I Buried My Guns

Well said.


36 posted on 07/16/2010 12:08:42 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Marechal
What one would need would be dogs of the large, loyal, and appropriately vicious variety.

Getting a large vicious dog is probably mistake #17 or 18. I have a little Pug that stays in the house. You absolutely cannot come on my property and get close to my house without her alerting me to that fact. That's all I need. She doesn't eat a lot and I have over a years worth of food for her.

As noted in Survial Blog small dogs have a lot in their favor.

1. The small dog (with regular walks) can live happily enough in an apartment. He'll provide a vocal deterrent to intruders, which is often encouragement enough to find a different target. Conversely, large dogs and apartments do not mix well...
2. Small dogs are easier to train than you think. The key to all canine interaction is establishing dominance. The smaller the dog, the easier this is.
3. The small dog will eat and drink next to nothing. This is clearly a massive pro if you're hitting the road after all hell breaks loose.
4. The small dog can be carried easily. In your backpack no less. Imagine your 60+ pound Doberman has gone lame after walking 20 miles on asphalt. Enough said...
5. In a world of guns and gangs it's foolish to think that an attack breed dog will even the odds. On the contrary, that scary dog is more likely to spark the firefight that will end your life.

37 posted on 07/16/2010 12:09:10 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: SJSAMPLE

“I would never let a cat or a terrier get first dibs on the juciest rats ;)”

I remember Dad hunting squirrels, which we ate. I guess they’re rodents, too. ick.


38 posted on 07/16/2010 12:09:28 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Agree with almost everything you said.....except for the part of bartering women into sexual slavery for supplies and ammo. That I could not do.


39 posted on 07/16/2010 12:13:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: maddog55

<If you have plenty of guns and ammo... food & water is easy to get !!!

I generally agree, but there is planning for Armageddon and planning for Snowmageddon. If weather prohibits you from getting out of the house or food delivery trucks from getting into town (as happened this past winter in the DC area), those boxes of bullets won’t help you as much as canned food will.

Food storage is good for folks in extreme weather locations, for the elderly who may not be able to get get as much as they’d like, for singles who may not have networks of friends who can help them in an emergency, and for when times get tight. Imagine being unemployed, but knowing that you have 6 months to a year of food saved. How much would that ease your mind?

/rant. No hard feelings intended. I just wanted to offer another perspective. Weapons are good too!


40 posted on 07/16/2010 12:13:54 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: William Tell

What about installing an old fashioned hand pump? I used to use one when I was a kid - the only thing you HAVE to have is some water to use if you lose prime. You would feel a lot safer...


41 posted on 07/16/2010 12:15:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous - Einstein.)
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To: stormer

Dang! Is that legal? : ) What is it and how much does it cost?


42 posted on 07/16/2010 12:15:33 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"However, I can stomach a rat much easier, since I’ve already eaten squirrel, snake, etc. Maggots make me gag on sight."

From my limited personal experiences, and more extensive reading of the experiences of others, I think people will eat anything if they get hungry enough. I think I'd eat maggots long before I ever indulged in human flesh, and yet there are stories out there about people being driven to cannibalism in extreme circumstances. I mention maggots more because of their medical value...they can be very useful for maggot debridement therapy. It sounds medieval, but it's probably already used more commonly in modern medicine than most people want to think about.

43 posted on 07/16/2010 12:15:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Uncle Ike

Is there an old fashioned manual pump that will work on a deep well?


44 posted on 07/16/2010 12:16:20 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sure, but on the continuity scale, I’d be eating rats long before I’d look into maggots and other bugs.

I’ve seen maggots used in wound debridement in Mexico, on the central mountains. Hell, even some US doctors use leeches to reduce bruising. Sometimes after cosmetic surgery.


45 posted on 07/16/2010 12:19:34 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: William Tell

You could make a digester for your waste products (they use them in some third world countries) to produce methane and get a natural gas generator that can be tuned to run on the gas. However, this is very low pressure gas so accumulating and storing it would be problematic.

Alternatively, you could ferment plant waste to make alcohol and use the alcohol to run the generator. Not suggesting moonshine here as making it requires a lot of valuable inputs (sugar and grains).

However, some sort of muscle-based solution (hand cranked rotary pump) would be probably be the most easily implemented.

Whatever the solution, make it one that you can fix using on-site tools and lay in a stock of spare parts to do the repairs when needed. Maybe stock a complete replacement system as water is one resource you can’t go without for long.

My 2 cents.


46 posted on 07/16/2010 12:19:59 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Roos_Girl

” Is there an old fashioned manual pump that will work on a deep well?”

I’m not sure - the ones we’ve found work on our local wells, but, admittedly, they’re not REAL deep...

It might be a good investment to get that 6-pack and a couple of pounds of hamburger and have the local plumber over for a barbecue/skull-session - if he hasn’t already thought the problem through, he should at least give you some ideas that would be suitable to your local conditions...


47 posted on 07/16/2010 12:21:40 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: William Tell
The biggest threat will be the "government" accusing preppers of hoarding and demanding that committees decide who gets the goods.

Yep and they will not be easily dissuaded if they are hungry too.

48 posted on 07/16/2010 12:24:17 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Red in Blue PA
It is ignorant, but moreso, it is false. Try coming to get my food and water....I am also armed.

That is something many people who think "I have a gun and ammo, therefore I shall take food and water from everyone else" seem to forget.

Come after what I have, you will eat lead and swallow blood, and not be supping at my table and consuming my stores.

49 posted on 07/16/2010 12:24:26 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: Captain Rhino

Wood gas seems to be a good solution.
Readily available fuel without storage issues and it’s almost immediately available.

Once you have the system built, you can run your generator in less than 15 minutes.


50 posted on 07/16/2010 12:26:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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