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Top 9 Mistakes Of Prepping
http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2010/06/07/top-9-mistakes-of-prepping/ ^

Posted on 07/16/2010 11:33:58 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

1. Following the wrong advice: Many new survivalist become fixated upon the advice given by others. They read the latest preparedness book or blog post and automatically assume the advice given is best them, without considering their individual needs, skill level or location. In order to be self-reliant you need to learn to think for yourself.

2. Not eating what they store: Many new survivalist fill their pantry with unfamiliar foods, thinking they will adapt their diet “when the time comes” this is nonsense. You need to learn how to prepare and use these foods now, so they become a familiar staple.

3. Relying only on their food storage: Many new survivalist think once they have their one year supply of survival foods, that’s the end. Don’t get me wrong, having a deep larder is important, just don’t overlook the possibility of needing to replenish your supplies, and obtaining the skills and resources needed to do that.

4. Not storing enough salt: Many new survivalist fail to store this staple in the quantities needed. Don’t discount the importance of salt. I suggest at least ten pounds of iodized salt per person as a minimum.

5. Building an arsenal: I see this all the time. Many new survivalist spend thousands on weapons and related gear, yet have only a two-week supply food and no water filter. This is stupid. I love guns and gear as much as the next person – but I know food and water are more important to my survival. Sure; we need weapons to protect what we’ve put away, just don’t neglect the other stuff.

6. Relying on bugging out: I’m not a fan of the “grab a bug out bag and head for the hills survival strategy”. In most cases you’re better off staying where you are. Having a bug out bag is a good idea, just don’t make bugging out your only plan or first priority.

7. To much stuff not enough skill: Many new survivalist believe they can be saved though buying. This fantasy has been promoted by self-serving survival gurus for years to fill their pockets with cash. Sure supplies are useful and some are needed – just don’t become dependent on stuff instead develop your skills.

8. Storing only one type of food: More than a few new survivalist have made this mistake. I can’t remember exactly where I read it, I think it was on another survival blog – but the author suggested his readers store hundreds of pounds of wheat and nothing else. While wheat is the backbone of my food storage, storing only one type of food, no matter how versatile is foolish.

9. Not taking care of pet needs: Many new survivalist fail to consider the needs of their pets. If you have pets you must plan for their needs by laying back the necessary supplies to keep them fed and healthy.


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To: radiohead

The Barret semi-auto comes in at around $10,000 for the kit (case, Swarovski scope, rifle, magazines, etc.).


51 posted on 07/16/2010 12:27:26 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Red in Blue PA

#1 item most all people do: Fail to understand SHTF is not unlikely.


52 posted on 07/16/2010 12:27:44 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: I Buried My Guns
any females who live will be bartered away into sexual slavery for supplies and ammo.

Good God man, that’s funny.

53 posted on 07/16/2010 12:28:33 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; Blue Jays; ...

Preparedness/Survival ping!


54 posted on 07/16/2010 12:30:55 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Uncle Ike
I’m not sure - the ones we’ve found work on our local wells, but, admittedly, they’re not REAL deep...

The other option is to have a couple of barrels of water stored in the basement. As long as the barrels are cleaned thoroughly and the water is filtered before you put it in, and there is no way for air to get into the barrel it will keep for quite a while. You can get by on a gallon of water a day so a couple of 55 gallon drums will keep you alive for months. You can use rain water for flushing and washing.

But if you are doing this buy the barrels new. You don't want any contamination involved when you are talking about long term water storage.
55 posted on 07/16/2010 12:31:38 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: William Tell
Candles, matches, needles, thread...

Bars of soap?

56 posted on 07/16/2010 12:32:20 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: CodeToad

I have a piece of paper with one line printed out and placed upon my food strage items as a reminder of why I am prepping:

“The veneer of civilization is thin”


57 posted on 07/16/2010 12:35:33 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA
...Many new survivalist fill their pantry with unfamiliar foods...

Hard to store a years supply of Lean Cuisines and Digiorno Pizzas.

58 posted on 07/16/2010 12:35:44 PM PDT by FReepaholic (The problem is they do not fear us.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

What Bible are you reading? God commanded you to love your neighbor, not trade her like chattel. You may be severely disappointed at the end of your days.


59 posted on 07/16/2010 12:35:58 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: FReepaholic

ROTFLOL!


60 posted on 07/16/2010 12:36:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: txhurl

With all the beans and cheese, you probably can produce your own source of energy as well; now if you can just learn how to harness it.


61 posted on 07/16/2010 12:36:52 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: GonzoGOP

For water purification, there is something better than HTH out there now, it’s dichlor pool shock. 1/4 teaspoon, yes, I typed that correctly, will purify 55 gals.

http://www.ldsprep.org/WATER.doc


62 posted on 07/16/2010 12:36:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: GonzoGOP

There’s a software program, Depiction, that helps organizations and individuals plan various escape routes. It uses numerous different types of maps and anticipates events such as floods, road closures, etc. www.depiction.com, and they’re having a free Webinar on the 22nd, I believe.


63 posted on 07/16/2010 12:37:16 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: GonzoGOP

” The other option is to have a couple of barrels of water stored in the basement. “

Good for short-term bare-survival - and, with a little bit of preparation, you can devise some kind of rainwater catchment and filtering system to replenish...

However, if you’re thinking long term, ya gotta be thinking in terms of agriculture and that means irrigation - and that means a substantial natural supply of water, and the means of retrieving it....

YMMV - I don’t claim to have any one-size-fits-all answers that will suit everyone - I can only share my thinking and my preparations (some of them, anyway) for my local conditions....


64 posted on 07/16/2010 12:37:51 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: omega4412
Bars of soap?

As well as antiseptic and bandages. Lets face it there will be no or very limited medical care in a SHTF world. So you need to stay clean to keep from getting sick. And if you are cutting wood, boarding up your house or whatever you are going to get a lot of cuts and scrapes. And you need to pay attention to anything that breaks the skin since if it gets infected you are going to have to barter away a whole bunch of food and ammo to get a small amount of antibiotics. If they are available at all.
65 posted on 07/16/2010 12:38:07 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
Do not waste resources. Give the body to your neighbor with a hog lot.
66 posted on 07/16/2010 12:38:09 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Great post! I thought about adding dried beans to my stores but then decided on canned beans. Yes, they take up more space but they are already hydrated. Water might be a premium and I don’t want to waste it on bean rehydration. Also, I added fully constituted soup for the same reason. Water is needed for condensed soup.


67 posted on 07/16/2010 12:39:26 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

In “Little House on the Prairie,” their dog saved their lives more than once. I’m talking about the book series, not the TV show.


68 posted on 07/16/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: I Buried My Guns
...any females who live will be bartered away into sexual slavery for supplies and ammo...

Note to self: buy extra ammo.

69 posted on 07/16/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by FReepaholic (The problem is they do not fear us.)
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To: meowmeow

#12: Not keeping track of experiation dates. I have a list of items and exp. dates. When the time draws neer I will either use it myself or donate it. At that time I will also rotate in a fresh supply of that item.


70 posted on 07/16/2010 12:41:32 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It would be nice if they knew how to use the English language. I have a hard time taking any advice from someone who doesn’t get the concept of ‘plural’


71 posted on 07/16/2010 12:42:29 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: William Tell
Depending on how deep your well is.

Hand pump? Wind mill? Put them in storage until needed.

My well is 220 feet TBH. Can not hand pump. But my pool has about 3k in it and most of the local surface streams can be treated.

Actually, I have not looked at backup pumps recently. Something to do until quiting time.

72 posted on 07/16/2010 12:43:00 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: goodwithagun

Along with that, knowing what expiration dates are hard dates, and what “expiration dates” are on products just because the manufacturer wants you to buy more.


73 posted on 07/16/2010 12:43:40 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Gondring
For those with a Flex savings account- the pretax account that can be used for medical expenses- you WILL NOT be able to use them on OTC’s starting January 2011. I suggest you stock up on OTC’s anyway, SHTF or not. As for scripts, I'm sure you can convince your doc that you need an extra supply for an emergency kit. I think that a doctor might actually applaud the forethought.
74 posted on 07/16/2010 12:44:59 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: I Buried My Guns
"Some Christian you are" one said, only to be informed that the Bible is not a suicide pact. God commands you to take care of your responsibilites, and if you refuse to do that, you'd best begin praying to the FEMA god.

Yes! This drives me crazy. I was talking with someone yesterday about the possibility of an EMP and the repercussions, and she said, "God is in control."

Of course! But when people say that, I think what they really mean is, "Nothing bad is going to happen to AMERICA! God is in control, and he's watching out for AMERICA!" Well, God was in control and we had the Civil War, Great Depression, Dust Bowl, etc. There are natural consequences, and our country is going to begin reaping those with our government's disastrous policies.
75 posted on 07/16/2010 12:45:46 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: goodwithagun

One word: Spreadsheet.

This will have all of your items along with a column for when they are to be replaced.


76 posted on 07/16/2010 12:46:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Freddd
"those solar walkway lights, make a good flashlight"

I look at them as battery chargers.


77 posted on 07/16/2010 12:46:34 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Ask how she is going to fulfill the Great Commission when she’s struggling to feed herself and her family.

On the other hand, those who are prepared ahead of time will have the “extra” time to share the Gospel.


78 posted on 07/16/2010 12:48:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: William Tell

One morning years ago my parent’s well pump went out. My dad, being the man that he is, had an extra one on hand (don’t ask). Until he and my brother got everything in working order, mom tied a rope around a jar with a handle on it. We dipped water out of the well with it. It wasn’t easy or fast, but we had water.


79 posted on 07/16/2010 12:48:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Uncle Ike
However, if you’re thinking long term, ya gotta be thinking in terms of agriculture and that means irrigation - and that means a substantial natural supply of water, and the means of retrieving it....

Ya I was thinking short term. 110 gallons of pure fresh water givs you three months to come up with a way of A) getting more gas for the generator B) getting a hand pump set up. C) Order being restored for an hour so you can run the pump and refill the barrels. Kind of like why the advice is to put away a years worth of food. It isn't that we only expect to live for one year. It is that give a year we can probably find an additional source of food. There is an old saying that the difference between difficulty and disaster is how much time you have.
80 posted on 07/16/2010 12:48:54 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“The veneer of civilization is thin”

I have the following and I quote it in my manual:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.


81 posted on 07/16/2010 12:49:26 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ChocChipCookie

Could you add me to the list please?


82 posted on 07/16/2010 12:51:23 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Uncle Ike

By the bye - all of us ‘packrats’ will be rewarded in the SHTF ‘hereafter’ - if we have a goodly assortment of nuts and bolts and nails and scrap metal and wood and pipe and wire and miscellaneous parts (the piles of stuff in the back of the shed that we keep promising the better half we’ll do something about), there’s no limit to what can be improvised and/or repaired in a pinch....

In the same vein - hand tools are a necessity... If electricity fails, all of those fancy SKIL and Black&Decker and Ryobi tools will only be good for canibalizing for parts...


83 posted on 07/16/2010 12:53:37 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SJSAMPLE
What a waste. From a survivalist standpoint.

Spend it on a good AR-10/M-1A W/accessories and lots of ammo. Burn enough ammo on the range so that you are good with it.

N.B.: It will be my assumption that if you are carrying one of those around my neighborhood and I do not know who you are, that you are a bad guy (or an idiot which is the same). Steps will be taken.

84 posted on 07/16/2010 12:53:57 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Uncle Ike

I believe the answer is “no”. The hand pumps that you’re talking about will only work on wells that are approx. 1 atmosphere deep. Most of our pumps here in Florida are the submersible kind cause you can’t “suck” water up from the depth that our wells are dug at.

We’ve got ground water real close to the surface, but it’s not suitable for drinking. However, in a SHTF situation you could have a shallow well with manual pump and suitable filtration so you’d at least have water.


85 posted on 07/16/2010 12:55:06 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Kartographer

No kidding.

My plan was always to go to my family’s home in the country in Vermont. The problem arises with getting there, and then fitting into the community.

A recent conversation with someone in the area up there about just that indicated that I should probably tell some of them of my plan—just so as I dont get “detained” on the way in.


86 posted on 07/16/2010 12:55:40 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

*LOVED* this part:

FM 21-76 US ARMY SURVIVAL MANUAL
Reprinted as NOT permitted by U.S. Department of the Army, but by we the citizenry who paid for it.


87 posted on 07/16/2010 12:58:14 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: goodwithagun

A little herbalist and first-aid training might be useful, too. And I’m not talking about medical marijuana, but natural remedies in general.


88 posted on 07/16/2010 1:02:03 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Roos_Girl

” We’ve got ground water real close to the surface, but it’s not suitable for drinking. However, in a SHTF situation you could have a shallow well with manual pump and suitable filtration so you’d at least have water. “

Keep in mind that your area supported large populations of people (native american, and your ancestors) with low-tech solutions to the problems you’re going to face — a little bit of historical research might pay dividends.....


89 posted on 07/16/2010 1:03:02 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: fireforeffect

I agree, but I have no problems with the AR/M-16/M-4 platform, either.


90 posted on 07/16/2010 1:05:57 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Kartographer

I like this one too:

“People who live in delightful, well-mannered suburbs, who
never have to contest for their lives and property, often fail
to grasp the subtle logic of violence. It is a mistake seldom
made by hardened criminals.”
James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg in THE GREAT RECKONING


91 posted on 07/16/2010 1:06:21 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: William Tell
Ammunition will be sought by everyone who has or gets a gun and who didn't set some aside. Ammo is probably one of the best barter commodities.

That's why I recommend investment in precious metals..like lead encased in brass.

92 posted on 07/16/2010 1:06:59 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: JPG
When I see a recipe posted for “Donner Party Stew” then I’ll now that it’s really hit the fan.

Here you go. The Donner Party Cookbook. ;-)
93 posted on 07/16/2010 1:07:04 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: naturalized
"...What Bible are you reading? God commanded you to love your neighbor, not trade her like chattel. You may be severely disappointed at the end of your days..."
You miss the point entirely. My overall goal is not to own young, tan, lithe, firm, bra-less females, although that would be a definite plus in a time when the cable goes out. No, the goal is to snap my acquaintances out of their apathetic, consumerism-as-god stupor. If anybody thinks they can just glom on to me and my preps simply because I'm a Bible-thumper, well, that dog don't hunt. When TSHTF, they are more than welcome to eat their big screen TV and fancy new car. I'll even lend them a steak knife to help them cut it up into tiny pieces.

Since you are Biblically astute, you certainly are aware that God commands us to prepare for lean times and store up extra food. To ignore this edict is not only stupid, but goes against the word of God.

And you be nice when referring to my new ottoman as chattel. Her name is Debbie, and she provides a welcome place to rest my weary feet after a long day of directing my minions.

94 posted on 07/16/2010 1:11:04 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
It is ignorant, but moreso, it is false. Try coming to get my food and water....I am also armed.

During the Bosnian conflict a cheap bottle of whiskey and 4 packs of smokes could get you a decent rifle and ammo. Makes me sick every time I hear someone say that is their preps. They will die quickly.
95 posted on 07/16/2010 1:11:24 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Uncle Ike
"We’ve got ground water real close to the surface, but it’s not suitable for drinking. However, in a SHTF situation you could have a shallow well with manual pump and suitable filtration so you’d at least have water."

As long as it wasn't salty even with just a simple sand filter it would be good enough for flushing the toilet, watering the guarden, washing cloths. Those all take a heck of a lot more water than drinking and they can all be done with water that isn't suitable for drinking.
96 posted on 07/16/2010 1:11:41 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
I remember Dad hunting squirrels, which we ate.

I recall it being a shock to this poor country boy when he went off to the fancy schools and found that all those well-educated folk in the ivy-covered buildings had no idea that squirrels were food. (I especially recall the "We must respect all cultures! Diversity! Americans are too narrow-minded!" woman who evidently made an exception to her Embracing Diversity outlook when it came to some varieties of American culture.)

97 posted on 07/16/2010 1:12:38 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

LOL! We stock the liquor cabinet twice a year: June for the summer and November for dealing with the family during the holidays. The last trip we took to the liquor store, I picked up the largest, cheapest, glass-bottled vodka I could find. My husband looked at me kind of funny, because he knows I’m uppity with my vodka. I told him it was for our emergency stores. Alcohol has many other uses, such as disinfection. Vodka in a glass bottle will last forever.


98 posted on 07/16/2010 1:13:01 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

How about making a still...? You could barter with the surplus.


99 posted on 07/16/2010 1:14:43 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Red in Blue PA said: "... Jack Daniels."

I wasn't trying to make an exhaustive list but just mentioned some of the items that immediately came to mind.

Booze should have come to mind. I drank more than my share years ago and don't drink now, but alcoholic beverages would make a very good barter item.

I haven't priced any lately, but I am guessing that one could buy cases of relatively cheap vodka or whiskey and the stuff would last forever. One would have to protect it from breakage and theft. I wonder if pint bottles would be the most effective "denomination"?

100 posted on 07/16/2010 1:15:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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