Skip to comments.‘Anonymous Numbskulls’ – Romney Calls for Cease-Fire with Palin
Posted on 07/16/2010 12:57:38 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Anonymous Numbskulls Romney Calls for Cease-Fire with Palin
July 16, 2010 1:04 PM
ABC News Rick Klein reports: How do you end a political food fight in 140 characters or less?
A series of delectable, anonymous quotes were forming an early front in the battle for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination until former Gov. Mitt Romney took to Twitter today to put a stop to it.
The fun began when a pair of Romney intimates sounded off without their names attached --about former Gov. Sarah Palin:
She's not a serious human being, one Romney adviser told Times Mark Halperin. Said a Romney intimate: If she's standing up there in a debate and the answers are more than 15 seconds long, she's in trouble.
Aides to Palin followed suit anonymously, of course.
It shocks me that anyone would try to do that, a Palin aide told Politicos Andy Barr. Those who try to claim the mantle of Reagan would be good to follow one of his most sacred tenets.
For Washington consultants to sit around and personally disparage the Governor anonymously to reporters is unfortunate and counterproductive and frankly immature.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...
Romney can’t control his staffers...but wants to run the country?
Children? Eh, the Romney’s have five sons and not a day of military service between them. The Palins son, well you know the story, enough said.
Look who is waving a white flag ...
Forget it. Time to drive a stake through this unholy Socialist vampire’s campaign.
Romney has intimates? Who knew?
She'll make him look like little misspoken Joey Biden (who, during the debate with Palin, cited at least a dozen "facts" which were completely made-up! Like when he actually claimed to "...remember when we kicked Hezbollah and Hamas out of Lebanon." We never kicked Hezbollah/Hamas out of Lebanon... he meant when we forced Syria to leave Lebanon, and the Dims had nothing to do with it. So much for O'Bunga's self-claimed "international affairs mentor").
Sarah's been schoolin' in the years since, gearing up for the coming fray. I can't effing wait. Apparently, neither can the Romney-bots.
< ..snicker.. >
Scott Brown is Romney is Scott Brown.
All you need to know.
Stay away from Willard!
who try to claim the mantle of Reagan would be good to follow one of his most sacred tenets.
Ah yes ...
but remember RINO Romney doesnt want to be like President Ronald Reagan...
“I’m not going back to the time of Ronald Reagan” (Williard Mitt Romney, 1994)
Any way the Romneys hated Ronald Reagan...
He was a conservative, they were moderates leaning to the left..
If they aren’t identified by name, you can’t even be sure they were “intimates”, or even “advisors”, just that someone is claiming that they claimed they were. Without names, the claim that they are advisors or intimates is as suspect as the claims they made against Palin.
Funny though how people are willing to trust liars when they say what people want to hear.
You are all missing the point. Myth is trying to have his cake, (intimates attack palin) while he says for them to stop. But it is already out there.
Romney suddenly wants to be NICE?? Better watch your back, Sarah.
I guess the Romney advisor didn't watch Palin handle Biden in that VP debate in 2008. Of course, the media declared Biden the "winner," but we know the truth.
Romney is attempting plausible deniablity.
He undoubtedly told his advisros to attempt to slime Palin.
If you don't have common courtesy, and you are too cowardly to put your name to your statement, then S T F U !!!!
And what evidence do you have that Rick Klein is lying about this?
I wouldn't call them liars.
Sneaky, gutless cowards is my preference.
So now you take the word of Mark Halperin(!) of TIME(!) about an un-named source(!).....well, I guess if it fits your agenda...
“You are all missing the point. Myth is trying to have his cake, (intimates attack palin) while he says for them to stop.”
You’re right, it’s a classic case of throwing rocks and hiding hands. I think even the GOP establishment knows he’s not up to the job, hence all the Jeb Bush talk that’s been popping up lately.
I was going to make a comment about holy underwear, but I’d probably get banned.
My agenda? Okay -it’s a lie & Romney’s never had these problems before.
I wouldn’t trust it by any stretch of the imagination...
I didn’t say Klein was lying. I presume that he is faithfully reporting the twitter feed that Romney made, and that he is also faithfully repeating what he read about the identities of the commenters Romney is responding to.
What I am saying is that we have no evidence that the two commentors in question really are intimates of Romney, or advisors to Romney. We don’t know who they are, Klein doesn’t suggest he knows who they are, and the original reports weren’t clear about how the reporters identified the people as current advisors to Romney.
For all we know, someone anonymously wrote to a blog somewhere “I’m a close advisor to Romney, and I beleive “X” about Palin”. And the media reported that as “a close advisor to Romney said “X” about Palin”.
I’ve seen so many anonymous sources blamed on candidates that I generally discount it until we have actual names. Sometimes it turns out it’s a guy who worked with the candidate years earlier, or a person who donated money but was never actually associated with a campaign.
What does seem clear is that Romney doesn’t know who these so-called “intimates” are. IF someone who you were intimate with said something you disagreed with, you wouldn’t respond with a twitter calling them names. You’d call them out publicly, and remove them from your team.
Not the first. Not the second. Not the third.
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romneys former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:
"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."
[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]
Still, few express much regard for Palin's ultimate chances. An adviser to Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and, by traditional standards, the putative 2012 front runner, says of Palin, "She's not a serious human being." Another Romney intimate warns, "If she's standing up there in a debate and the answers are more than 15 seconds long, she's in trouble."
p.s. since when does Mittster twitter? Attempting to copy Governor Palin again I see (with laughable results).
And it’s why (among other things) we’re going to have problems leading up to 2012: division & strife from within.
Halperin has also not provided the name of this so-called “advisor”. How does Halperin know this person is an advisor? What evidence does Halperin give which lets us know how he determined that the person was an advisor?
Until we know the names of these so-called “advisors”, we have know idea what the truth is.
You can check for yourself when Mitt Romney set up a twitter account. Then you can be informed as to whether he did so before or after Sarah, and if it looks like it is some imitation (I don’t generally twitter, or log into my twitter account, and Sarah is just about the only twitter feed I’m signed up for, so I don’t have any idea when different politicians started twittering).
I do believe that Klein is simply repeating what Halperin wrote, so Klein is not an independent verification of anything. And it wouldn’t be the first time Halperin did his job of turning republicans against each other to help his liberal friends.
Divorcing your feelings about the particular candidate, can’t you see that it’s odd that a candidate would trash via twitter people who are really his advisors or “intimates”?
You continue your chronic apologies for Romney’s bad
His false badges.
His fake endorsements.
His imposing RomneyCARE.
His imposing gay marriage by his proxy and Order.
His coverup of the BIG-DIG.
His lying about MLK, NRA, etc.
So why are you doing this?
Do you really believe that EVERYONE ELSE IS LYING?
The reporter obviously double sourced this, just like
FReepers who have outed your beloved Mitt Romney(CARE).
If the jerk was serious it would be not tweeted but they would be fired..and put the fear of God in the rest of his staff.....the man isn’t serious...except about his hair..
Tough to take a person seriously when they are defending liberal journalists.
I believe Romney’s denial like I believe Tax Cheat Timmy’s promises to Kudlow.
If you want an answer as to why the GOP is not drubbing The One over the Obamacare insanity, one need look no further than Mr. Perfect-hair-teeth-RINO from New England, The Mittmeister.
Prediction: If Romney buys the GOP nomination the Elite Establishment GOP will be left standing all alone to face the Dems in November 2012.
The Bourgeoisie is tired of being played for suckers by the Liberal Establishment.
Mitt Romney = Scott Brown = the Maine Twins = the Right stays home again.
Dear GOP... nominate someone else or become the 21st Century embodiment of the Whig Party. The warning isn’t populist foolishness - the Tea Party folks that you disdainfully pooh-pooh are not going away.
No Romney...please for pity’s sake no more Yankee-Elite-Establishment-Country-Clubbers.
Speaking of ‘unserious’, portraying fellow FReepers who see this report of alleged comments by Romney insiders as quite probable as “defending liberal journalists”, is completely lame. You have zero evidence that this is not true and it does fit exactly with Romney’s past actions and use of minions. Charles, where is your honesty and above it all Swiss neutrality?!
You think Klien is not a liberal journalist?
It doesn’t make sense that a current “intimate advisor” of Romney would say this to a reporter, and Romney would denounce that person in a Twitter statement.
Because Klien is no friend of Romney. He KNOWS who the person is who said this, supposedly. If he knew that Romney knew who it was, Klein woudl attack Romney for pretending he didn’t know who it was.
So until I see Klein suggest that Romney would have any idea who this so-called “intimate advisor” is, I’ll stick with the thought best expressed in that liberal TV series “The West Wing”, after they won re-election, when some low-level minion got his fame by somehow convincing a journalist to run a story about how the victory was all their doing.
Journalists love to report gossip, and they love to make it “important” by attributing it to “important people”. It’s not just Romney, but this happened a lot to Romney in 2008, with these “anonymous close confidants” being quoted, and on the rare occasion that one was identified, we’d learn that they were someone on the periphery of the campaign, or just donors who had no say in how the campaign operated.
Same thing happened with Thompson’s campaign, with Huckabee, and of course all through the general election we’d see leaks attributed to people associated with McCain/Palin.
People even here at FR who are now trying to put Palin back in her place have been trying to overplay the connection between her and some who call themselves part of her inner circle.
It’s just the way things are. It’s not like it’s a “big lie” or anything, so there’s no point in pretending it doesn’t happen, or suggesting that because Klein SAYS that an “intimate” of Romney said something, that it reflects Romney, his campaign, or is from a person who is actually part of the Romney team at this point.
Heck, it could be some employee at one of the branch offices of his political PAC who Romney has shook hands with once in passing.
When these types of rumors attack those we see as conservative, we all know what credibility to give to a reporter like Klein.
But when they help attack someone whose ox we want to gore, suddenly the journalists are respected and can’t be possibly deceiving or in any way trying to dissemble.
The simple fact is that a few liberal media members decided it was important to get the Palin and Romney camps to go at each other’s throats, because it helps the Democrats. Fortunately, Palin and Romney didn’t take the bait — unfortunately, a lot of Palin supporters did.
That doesn't then prove that these statements were not said by actual Romney insiders (hint: Eric Fehrnstrom). Maybe, maybe not. However, based on past behavior of the Romney campaign, this fits the M.O. of Romney media relations to a tee. You bring up Fred Thompson. Quite ironic, since he was the recipient of Romney campaign dirty politics using a friendly media who did not want Fred and was more than willing to aid Romney. You say (source, proof, evidence?) that Klein is no friend of Romney. I say that Klein and many other MSMer's are great friends of Romney's brain, Eric Fehrnstrom. Just google Fehrnstrom. You'll not find a more duplicitous and corrupt snake in politics outside of the WH.
No, but once you have someone you admit is your enemy, them claiming something based on anoynmous sources doesn't prove it WAS.
You haven't really dealt with the reason I find this odd -- the fact that Romney wouldn't be able to dismiss this with a twitter if it were true, because Romney's twitter certainly indicates these people aren't speaking for his campaign and he doesn't know who they are, and if Klein knew otherwise we'd have read about it already.
Fred Thompson? Again, there was no evidence about who spread the Thompson rumors, and it made more sense that it was a McCain rumor; it was anoynmous sources again, not liberals but an opinion writer claiming the leak was FROM a campaign, with no evidence to back it up.
But surely, everybody here was willing to claim as fact something that was at best an unconfirmed rumor. Whereas normally, we are smart enough to know the difference between what MIGHT be true and what is absolutely true.
But I have learned that when it comes to specific politicians, there's no point in trying to have a rational discussion, even among otherwise seemingly intelligent conservatives. Because when it comes down to it, too many here at FR are happy to leave their brains at the door if it suits their political purpose. BTW, ONE would be too many, lest you think I'm claiming a particular number.
BTW, I’ve never said that it can’t be true. It certainly would be possible for a current Romney operative to have said those things without Romney knowing about it.
It is bothersome that we don’t have omnipotence, so we all knew exactly what the truth is about everything. I’d love to know exactly what happens in all the things we hear about here. But we are all just guessing what is in a black box based on what we can see through peepholes. It’s a fun game to play, but it’s not the same as knowing the truth.
And I’ve learned that most people are so wedded to their political picks that they don’t play the game, the just look at the black box and say they see what is best for their candidate. Sadly, that means that a site like FR, which is my number one source for facts about the news of the day, is almost worthless when it comes to getting facts about political campaigns.
Because there are times when people are more interested in scoring political points, than discerning what the clues could really mean.
But after watching this done to Sarah Palin for two years, it should be clear to all of us how easy it is to spread misconceptions if you don’t really dig down and learn the facts. And we should stop accepting “news” that refuses to give us any evidence, when evidence is so easily given.
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