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Veep Biden and Senatoe Graham had a quiet pow-wow on Thursday. Be concerned....
GOPUSA.com ^ | July 18, 2010 | Kay Daly

Posted on 07/17/2010 5:26:26 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly

In a tiny little Hill blog piece yesterday, there was a blurb on an under-the-radar meeting, one-on-one, between Senator Lindsey Graham and Vice President Joe Biden.  This is worrisome on so....many....fronts.

Joe Biden, for all of his gaffes and foibles, is still one smart political operative.  He rode the train home to Delaware with Arlen Specter on his way home to Pennsylvania every single weekend for years and is the one that most folks believe orchestrated Arlen's party switch.   Interesting piece here on the possibility for a White House job for Specter after his career as a Senator comes to an end this fall.  Must be nice.

Biden served on the Judiciary Committee, even as its chairman, for many crucial years and knows the significance of judicial nominations among other important pieces of business that go through that committee.  Gang of 14?   Remember them?  Well, Graham was a key player in that little smoke-filled room and so was Biden.

A great deal can happen in a meeting like this, particularly when no one is watching terribly closely.   Knowing that both Biden and Graham really dig the media spotlight, a quiet meeting with no press screams that something terribly political is about to go down.

Rumor has it that Lindsey Graham may announce....

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KEYWORDS: biden; elenakagan; graham; graham4obama; joebiden; lindseygraham; rino; supremecourt
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Does anyone else smell a deal going down?
1 posted on 07/17/2010 5:26:30 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Yep. If, for some reason, the GOP takes back the Senate, Graham is going to jump ship.

As if he hasn't already.

Also don't rule out a deal on Cap N' Tax.

2 posted on 07/17/2010 5:27:40 AM PDT by rintense
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To: ConservativeGadfly

senate-toe-queen graham....


3 posted on 07/17/2010 5:30:13 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Ooops. I’m sorry for that typo. Sorta.


4 posted on 07/17/2010 5:31:54 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: ConservativeGadfly

How come Pelosi says she “knows with certainty” that the Dems will keep control of the House in November?? Did they already finish doing their backroom deals?


5 posted on 07/17/2010 5:33:01 AM PDT by MissyMack66
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To: ConservativeGadfly
If the Vice President directed Graham to have a meeting with him, I don't think that Graham can say no. That would be like one of us saying no to our Vice President of our company. Call the secretary and say “Sorry but I don't think I will be coming to the meeting today...”. We would not be in the job very much longer. Does Graham have the choice to say no to the Vice President? I would say that would be bold and not a good idea. I guess the Vice President could not fire Graham but there has to be some sort of punishment for disobeying the Vice President. I would love to say “XO I am not coming to the meeting you called me too”. I would be up on changes in two seconds or at least get a horrible evaluation my next look.I would not last three seconds in politics. I could never be disrespectful to senior people. How can these politicians do this???? I guess being in the military for 23 years does not allow for this type of thing...lol.
6 posted on 07/17/2010 5:33:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: admin

Would y’all consider correcting the tiny typo in the headline? Thanks, in advance.....


7 posted on 07/17/2010 5:33:49 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: rintense

Maybe there is some blackmail against Penny Loafer that ‘only’ Plugs can quash.


8 posted on 07/17/2010 5:34:59 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: ConservativeGadfly

I suggest the GOP preempt and kick LG’s sorry butt out of the party. He is symbolic and functionally what is wrong with the GOP - smooshy/political/intellectually impaired

Actually, Graham is more of a republican spy than anything else. Perhaps these little meetings are just drops.


9 posted on 07/17/2010 5:37:24 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

He is a homosexual turncoat.


10 posted on 07/17/2010 5:38:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: napscoordinator

You have an interesting point. But I can pretty much tell you that it is the private, one on one meetings with no press attention...with principals....that is the reason for concern. This is where the strong arming takes place and the deals are made. Even Senators have a tendency to get called to the WH in groups, not individually. Staff take most of the meetings unless there is a decision that only the principal can make....

See why this is so odd? For a Veep to spend his valuable time with one Senator....it just signals to me that there is something goin’ on.


11 posted on 07/17/2010 5:40:20 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: ConservativeGadfly
"Joe Biden, for all of his gaffes and foibles, is still one smart political operative. He rode the train home to Delaware with Arlen Specter on his way home to Pennsylvania every single weekend for years and is the one that most folks believe orchestrated Arlen's party switch."

Yep, that Biden is one smooth operator! That party switch for Snarlin' Arlen worked out so well, didn't it? Maybe this will be enough for SC voters to send this fruitcake home for good and we can finally be shed of Lindsey Grahamnesty. Go Plugs, go!

12 posted on 07/17/2010 5:40:20 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: rintense

I have a tough time believing Graham would switch parties. That would 100% guarantee his defeat. Probably Graham up to his old McCain Maverick wanna be tricks.


13 posted on 07/17/2010 5:40:40 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: napscoordinator

Surely you don’t believe the military chain of command or the employee/employer relationship is akin to the relationship between different branches of our government!!

Graham is supposed to represent his constituents - which he does not. Our VP is the mentally impaired lap puppie for our commie executive leader. Get it straight.


14 posted on 07/17/2010 5:42:54 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

I think it’s cap n tax. Biden is a big supporter and so is Graham, although he can’t get away with it politically yet - Biden is working things out for him, I’m sure.


15 posted on 07/17/2010 5:43:22 AM PDT by livius
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To: ConservativeGadfly

A job offer for Maverick Kneepads Jr.


16 posted on 07/17/2010 5:43:38 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: C19fan

I don’t think it is party switching. I think it is about upcoming votes....first and foremost...Elena Kagan.


17 posted on 07/17/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: ConservativeGadfly

Maybe Kagan although Kagan has not need for any GOP votes since the GOP will not fillerbuster her. I think like others have said its crap and tax.


18 posted on 07/17/2010 5:46:34 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: napscoordinator
Graham doesn't work for the executive branch and Biden's not his boss.
19 posted on 07/17/2010 5:47:47 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: bossmechanic

That is why I could never be in politics. I could never disobey someone in authority. My life has been completely about following rules starting from birth...lol. My parents of course, went to Catholic School...don’t dare say no to a Nun or even a teacher and then went to Boot Camp one week after graduation and try to say no to a senior person.....HUH! And have been in the military ever since. So no it would no be in my best interest to go into politics. lol.


20 posted on 07/17/2010 5:48:48 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Of course being Graham it is concerning. He is not one of the better Senators with regards to RINO behavior. I would guess it has to do with Immigration or Cap and Trade. I think it is immigration.
21 posted on 07/17/2010 5:50:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Meanwhile at the cotillion.....

....as God is my witness, I'll never vote conservative again

22 posted on 07/17/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
As far as Elena Kagan, they have Snowe, Collins and Brownshorts on that one.

No.....This is all about Crap & Tax before November. They NEED that revenue NOW! And perhaps maybe they are going to throw in Amnesty, and are exchanging ideas on how to go about it. I'm sure they have some big donors who can hardly wait to sink their teeth into that plump, juicy source of unlimited and jail-proof corruption known as Cap & Trade. Hell, neither can they!

23 posted on 07/17/2010 5:52:40 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

10 to 1 it has something to do with CO2 Cap and Tax. Cap and Tax is not dead. We need a lot more sunshine in politics. No more “Back Room Deals”. No more “privatize the profit, socialize the loses”.


24 posted on 07/17/2010 5:55:10 AM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

But if Lindsey Graham goes Dem, the Sunday morning talk shows would have to find a new Republican to invite. Can’t be John McCain ALL the time.


25 posted on 07/17/2010 5:56:43 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

I wonder what Graham’s wife and children think about all this . . .


26 posted on 07/17/2010 6:07:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: bossmechanic
Our VP is the mentally impaired lap puppie for our commie executive leader.

And, an iron-clad insurance policy for Obamalamandingdong.....

27 posted on 07/17/2010 6:16:43 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

Lindsey isn’t a RINO. He’s a commie ‘RAT mole posing as a Republican. McCain is his best buddy. McCain doesn’t hang with Republicans.


28 posted on 07/17/2010 6:25:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Holder needs to resign! Now!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

Can’t you South Carolina people get that jackass out of the Senate?


29 posted on 07/17/2010 6:32:41 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("True evil has a face you know and a voice you trust." Greg Iles. "True Evil")
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To: ConservativeGadfly

I’d be shocked if Lindsey changed parties. The special appeal he and McCain have to the MSM is their ongoing willingness to undermine and stab the Republicans in the back. If either went Dim, they’d lose that special appeal.

I expect this meeting was related to Kagan, Cap and Trade and/or amnesty for illegals.


30 posted on 07/17/2010 6:34:18 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

” I expect this meeting was related to Kagan, Cap and Trade and/or amnesty for illegals. “

Or all 3.


31 posted on 07/17/2010 6:41:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: bmwcyle
He is a homosexual turncoat.

Yes, but he throws fabulous tea parties.

32 posted on 07/17/2010 7:05:04 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: napscoordinator
"That would be like one of us saying no to our Vice President of our company." What?

It would be like saying no to a VP from another company who is your competitor. That is unless you are selling corporate secrets to them!

33 posted on 07/17/2010 7:08:47 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, VP Biden is President of the Senate so maybe lighten up a bit on napscoordinator.


34 posted on 07/17/2010 7:12:23 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ConservativeGadfly

It wouldn’t be the first time Graham has switched sides.....


35 posted on 07/17/2010 7:14:21 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

No. In this case you refuse unless you can bring the Minority leader with you.


36 posted on 07/17/2010 7:17:32 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Mitch McConnell? Why would he meet with Plugs and PennyLoafer? Or perhaps that is your point.


37 posted on 07/17/2010 7:23:51 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: napscoordinator
That would be like one of us saying no to our Vice President of our company.

No it wouldn't.

38 posted on 07/17/2010 7:26:16 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Bernard

Graham won’t be on Sunday but Biden will be on “This Week”. Let’s watch and see if he mentions anything.


39 posted on 07/17/2010 7:27:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: rintense
Yep. If, for some reason, the GOP takes back the Senate, Graham is going to jump ship

Like I've said, there will be no true conservative CONgress. This is exactly what they will pull to keep it liberal.

40 posted on 07/17/2010 7:29:14 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: ConservativeGadfly

Maybe the Kagan vote isn’t the bag just yet. Is it possible that some Dems are secretly hinting that they may vote no? Maybe Obama wants some more Republican votes on the confirmation.


41 posted on 07/17/2010 7:45:18 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: napscoordinator
Time to take charge Sarge....either lead follow or get outta the way

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

42 posted on 07/17/2010 7:55:49 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rintense

He won’t jump on a sinking ship.


43 posted on 07/17/2010 8:57:48 AM PDT by omega4179 (N0vember.)
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To: Vaquero

LOL!


44 posted on 07/17/2010 10:43:19 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: rintense

“If...the GOP takes back the Senate, Graham is going to jump ship.”

You just pushed my “that makes too much sense” button.


45 posted on 07/17/2010 10:58:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: rintense

They have something on Graham. Maybe pictures. He does not act like a man who depends on the good will of South Carolina.


46 posted on 07/18/2010 8:00:42 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: rintense

A party switch by Graham would serve the GOP primary voters of SC right, as Thurmond’s breach did for the Demos in 1964. I really have little faith in voters, and particularly SC voters. Graham is one of the four or five worst senators because he sells out for media attention.


47 posted on 07/18/2010 3:18:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: sportutegrl

NO, not at all. Graham’s vote is required to move the nomination out of the Judiciary Committee. Without at least one GOP vote, the nomination dies in committee. Graham loves betraying the dumb SC voters who back him.


48 posted on 07/18/2010 3:20:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: napscoordinator
Any legislator can tell the executive branch to screw off.
49 posted on 07/18/2010 3:21:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: RobbyS

The only way to kill the Kagan nomination would be for McC to replace Graham on the Judiciary Committee. And McC never makes waves.


50 posted on 07/18/2010 3:21:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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