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Jobless in Cuba? Communism Faces the Unthinkable
AP via Google News ^ | July 18, 2010 | By ANNE-MARIE GARCIA

Posted on 07/18/2010 5:29:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

HAVANA — At a state project to refurbish a decaying building in Old Havana, one worker paints a wall white while two others watch. A fourth sleeps in a wheelbarrow positioned in a sliver of shade nearby and two more smoke and chat on the curb.

President Raul Castro has startled the nation lately by saying about one in five Cuban workers may be redundant. At the work site on Obispo street, those numbers run in reverse.

It's a common sight in communist Cuba. Here, nearly everyone works for the state and official unemployment is minuscule, but pay is so low that Cubans like to joke that "the state pretends to pay us and we pretend to work."

Now, facing a severe budget deficit, the government has hinted at restructuring or trimming its bloated work force.

"We know that there are hundreds of thousands of unnecessary workers on the budget and labor books, and some analysts calculate that the excess of jobs has surpassed 1 million," said Castro, who replaced his ailing brother Fidel as president nearly four years ago. Cuba's work force totals 5.1 million, in a population of 11.2 million.

"Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work," he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Cuba; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; cuba; failure; marxism; obamanomics; slavery; socialism

1 posted on 07/18/2010 5:29:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work,” he said.

Can we make Raoul an honorary member of the Tea Party?


2 posted on 07/18/2010 5:30:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: silverleaf

Hey Raul what happened to “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.


3 posted on 07/18/2010 5:34:10 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>> At a state project to refurbish a decaying building in Old Havana, one worker paints a wall white while two others watch. A fourth sleeps in a wheelbarrow positioned in a sliver of shade nearby and two more smoke and chat on the curb.

This is Obama’s vision for America, except that it would read “one white worker paints a wall, while 4 brown workers watch or sleep”.


4 posted on 07/18/2010 5:35:26 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: silverleaf

Even a complete idiot can see that this is the end of the road resulting from Socialism/Communism. They all eventually end up here. Corruption was not mentioned, but you can bet that it also plays a bigger role than they care to admit.


5 posted on 07/18/2010 5:36:09 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“President Raul Castro has startled the nation lately by saying about one in five Cuban workers may be redundant”
If he was loading a gun when he said it, they will soon achieve full employment...


6 posted on 07/18/2010 5:38:21 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: C19fan

they only focus on the second part: “to each according to his needs”

kind of like how liberals only recognize half of the establishment clause


7 posted on 07/18/2010 5:41:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

There are millions of complete idiots voting for Democrats. How long you think til they can drain every bit of money from the USA and achieve Utopia Cuban style?


8 posted on 07/18/2010 5:41:37 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Cubans like to joke that "the state pretends to pay us and we pretend to work."

Odd how communism produces the same perverse incentives every time... and odder still that liberals never see that pattern.

9 posted on 07/18/2010 5:41:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous - Einstein.)
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To: GenXteacher

Or allow another mass exodus.


10 posted on 07/18/2010 5:41:55 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
one in five Cuban workers may be redundant

That's a 20% unemployment rate.

11 posted on 07/18/2010 5:43:07 AM PDT by reg45
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To: GOPJ

/src on/Hey dude. Real communism has not been attempted yet./src off/


12 posted on 07/18/2010 5:43:09 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: silverleaf

All that shows is that the typical 0bamunist is even more leftist than Raoul Castro.


13 posted on 07/18/2010 5:46:05 AM PDT by reg45
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To: C19fan

Yeah - they’re still looking for the “right” place to try it - it’s failed in all human trials...


14 posted on 07/18/2010 5:48:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous - Einstein.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
At a state project to refurbish a decaying building in Old Havana, one worker paints a wall white while two others watch. A fourth sleeps in a wheelbarrow positioned in a sliver of shade nearby and two more smoke and chat on the curb

That sounds like a description of Streets and Sanitation workers in Chicago.

15 posted on 07/18/2010 5:49:40 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So he’s just going to hand them a check instead of having an implicit demand for work built into their wages?


16 posted on 07/18/2010 5:52:32 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work," he said.

And it only took three generations of ruined lives, not counting a mountain of corpses, to find it out!

17 posted on 07/18/2010 5:56:11 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("O nation miserable . . . when shalt thou see thy wholesome days again . . . .?")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work," he said"

How would an American liberal/socialist respond to that statement? (rhetorical)

18 posted on 07/18/2010 6:00:10 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Bryanw92

“one white worker paints a wall, while 4 brown workers watch or sleep”.

Excellent! I spit my coffee out when I read that line. LOL!

But true. Why am I laughing?


19 posted on 07/18/2010 6:05:57 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yep.


20 posted on 07/18/2010 6:11:44 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: C19fan

“/src on/Hey dude. Real communism has not been attempted yet./src off/”
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In a perverse way that is true because it is human nature that under such a system everyone is motivated to receive according to his needs but no one is motivated to give according to his abilities.

This has been most clearly demonstrated in agricultural settings. Give an experienced farmer a hundred acres on which he is to produce crops to be distributed to all according to need and give him one acre on which everything he produces belongs to him and he will produce more on the one acre than on the hundred acres.


21 posted on 07/18/2010 6:19:26 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: whitedog57

>> Why am I laughing?

We have to laugh. It isn’t time for the alternative...yet.


22 posted on 07/18/2010 6:22:36 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Mr Ramsbotham wrote: “Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work,” he said.
And it only took three generations of ruined lives, not counting a mountain of corpses, to find it out!

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This statement from Comrade Castro is so deeply rich in tragic irony it leaves me quite sad. Fifty years and three generations have been wasted to prove yet again that, no matter how vigorous and murderously harsh the effort to impose it, the communist theory of a utopian socialist workers’ paradise is a totally unrealistic human social construct.

The Left is a classic and irrefutable example of cognitive dissonance in action.


23 posted on 07/18/2010 7:19:37 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: reg45
That's a 20% unemployment rate.

So, their U-6 equivalent is 20% and our U-6 is 17%. Sounds like we can be equated to Cuba, as we are only 3% less.

24 posted on 07/18/2010 7:44:43 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: GenXteacher
“President Raul Castro has startled the nation lately by saying about one in five Cuban workers may be redundant”

If he was loading a gun when he said it, they will soon achieve full employment...

LOL!

25 posted on 07/18/2010 8:16:39 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: RipSawyer
Give an experienced farmer a hundred acres on which he is to produce crops to be distributed to all according to need and give him one acre on which everything he produces belongs to him and he will produce more on the one acre than on the hundred acres.

After which Obamunists will declare him a selfish, greedy capitalist b@stard and throw him in prison, thus ensuring that he produces nothing at all for anyone.

26 posted on 07/18/2010 9:08:17 AM PDT by MCH
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To: RipSawyer
Soviet GRU officer/defector Viktor Suvorov stated in one of his books (perhaps with a bit of exaggeration) that Soviet Intelligence could obtain any secret it desired. Except for one: how to “make bread”.

That is, it was not possible for the communist system to feed itself; they had to rely on producers outside the Iron Curtain for food (grain shipments, etc.), without which they would have likely starved.

27 posted on 07/18/2010 9:35:53 AM PDT by VAarea
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Even a complete idiot can see that this is the end of the road resulting from Socialism/Communism.

Yeah, they finally ran out of other people's money.

28 posted on 07/18/2010 9:41:04 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: reg45
That's a 20% unemployment rate.

Yes, and that's based on 50% labor participation. The US rate is something like 67% -- or at least it was . . .

29 posted on 07/18/2010 9:46:18 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: MCH

Yep, brilliant ain’t they?


30 posted on 07/18/2010 12:08:28 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Bryanw92

Actually, that’s what is like in Cuba (switch white in charge and brown for worker). Nobody does any work. It is astonishing. THere are almost no tools — a hammer, scissors, a knife — are all rae implements. Wrapping paper, tape of any kind — barely exists.

They are at the point now where they have run out of salt.


31 posted on 07/18/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryanw92
This is Obama’s vision for America, except that it would read “one white worker paints a wall, while 4 brown workers watch or sleep”.

You just described the US Post Office....

32 posted on 08/02/2010 1:02:47 AM PDT by MrPiper
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