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Is California Irredeemably Blue? Yes, if Barbara Boxer wins in a year like this.
Newsweek ^ | July 16, 2010 | George Will

Posted on 07/19/2010 5:13:20 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Carly Fiorina, 55, has been contending with chemotherapy and radiation treatments and reconstructive surgery because of breast cancer, so she is understandably undaunted by the relatively minor challenge of winning a U.S. Senate seat in this state that last elected a freshman Republican senator in 1982, that has not supported a Republican presidential candidate since 1988, and that has not elected a right-to-life candidate in statewide voting since 1998. This race will test the power of the rising Republican wave.

Fiorina might surf it from here to Capitol Hill because her opponent, Barbara Boxer, 69, is the Senate’s fiercest liberal, and California is an intensely unhappy laboratory for liberalism—high taxes, opulent entitlements, thick regulations, and subservience to government employees’ unions.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010; ca2010; california; fiorina; mantra; propaganda; rino; talkingpoints; ussenate

1 posted on 07/19/2010 5:13:22 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: SmithL; NormsRevenge; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ...

It’s amazing that a candidate with pro-life leanings is feasible in California. I think that Barbara Boxer may have finally worn out her welcome.


2 posted on 07/19/2010 5:17:08 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Clintonfatigued

California is red, white and green, the colors of the Mexican flag. Formerly a part of the United States, California has been infiltrated and taken over by citizens of a foreign country, and it is now being run to their liking and by their standards of governance. This is called the re-conquest. We should cut our losses.


3 posted on 07/19/2010 5:17:33 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Clintonfatigued

Carly is not so very different from Boxer, so the point is hardly tested.


4 posted on 07/19/2010 5:17:49 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: agere_contra

Will is caught up in the “it takes a RINO to win” theory. He has always had a soft spot in his heart for that theory because real conservatives are just too “declasse” among his Beltway friends.


5 posted on 07/19/2010 5:25:24 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Time for the dried up abortion hags to retire!


6 posted on 07/19/2010 5:25:24 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If Boxer wins again, the handwriting is on the wall for America. With continued massive illegal immigration California’s fate is a harbinger for our nation.


7 posted on 07/19/2010 5:27:25 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: agere_contra

Oh PLEASE!!! Carly isn’t PURE enough for you, but she’s NOWHERE NEAR VILE LIKE BARBARA BOXER IS!!


8 posted on 07/19/2010 5:28:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MBB1984

AMEN.....LOST FOREVER if BOXER WINS.


9 posted on 07/19/2010 5:29:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: La Lydia
California is red, white and green, the colors of the Mexican flag.

Yep, even shown in their flag...

10 posted on 07/19/2010 5:30:08 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: Ann Archy
Oh PLEASE!!! Carly isn’t PURE enough for you, but she’s NOWHERE NEAR VILE LIKE BARBARA BOXER IS!!

She's sure courting the Hispanic vote...

11 posted on 07/19/2010 5:34:51 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: La Lydia

CA went blue long before the mexicans took over. The big city rich whites are all as blue as blue can be, except for San Diego. The rest of the state’s basically a nonissue outside SF, LA, and SD.


12 posted on 07/19/2010 5:41:20 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: La Lydia

CA went blue long before the mexicans took over. The big city rich whites are all as blue as blue can be, except for San Diego. The rest of the state’s basically a nonissue outside SF, LA, and SD.


13 posted on 07/19/2010 5:41:20 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Clintonfatigued

It is also - and not by coincidence - irredeemably broke.


14 posted on 07/19/2010 5:41:50 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: La Lydia

Americans don’t cut our loses or give up American soil. The mexicans aren’t likely to pose much of a challenge if we ever decide to fight them.


15 posted on 07/19/2010 5:45:28 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Ann Archy

Actually Ann, I hear you and agree.

My point is: they are not different enough to allow psephologists to make any decisions about California’s irredeemable blueness.


16 posted on 07/19/2010 5:45:51 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: Durus
Americans don’t cut our loses or give up American soil. The mexicans aren’t likely to pose much of a challenge if we ever decide to fight them.

Concurring bump.

17 posted on 07/19/2010 5:54:56 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: bcsco

Along with the Soviet bear and the red star.


18 posted on 07/19/2010 5:59:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Durus
The mexicans aren’t likely to pose much of a challenge if we ever decide to fight them.

They're probably thinking that way about us. Last check, it's not the USA occupying Mexican territory, but increasingly, year-by-year, the other way.

19 posted on 07/19/2010 6:03:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ScottinVA
Along with the Soviet bear and the red star.

The red star struck me as well. I didn't think of the Soviet bear...

20 posted on 07/19/2010 6:03:34 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: agere_contra

“Carly is not so very different from Boxer”. I don’t think Carly would make such a condescending, arrogant statement. It shows her (Boxer) true colors; red politically and yellow philosophically.

“Do me a favor,” Boxer said to Brigadier General Michael Walsh. “Could you say Senator instead of Ma’am? It’s just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it... yes, thank you.”


21 posted on 07/19/2010 6:06:52 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: bcsco
Along with the Soviet bear and the red star. The red star struck me as well. I didn't think of the Soviet bear...

The Bear Flag was first used in 1846, the Soviet Union didn't even come around until 1917-1918. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

22 posted on 07/19/2010 6:10:40 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: La Lydia
We should cut our losses.

Might be a good time for a constitutional amendment that would specifically disallow federal bailouts of bankrupt state governments.

23 posted on 07/19/2010 6:11:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: chargers fan
The Bear Flag was first used in 1846, the Soviet Union didn't even come around until 1917-1918. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

We're just making visceral comparisons. We're not stating facts or correlations.

24 posted on 07/19/2010 6:13:06 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: bcsco
Yep, even shown in their flag...

It has a Soviet motif, with the bear and red star, appropriate for the commies in California.

25 posted on 07/19/2010 6:13:56 AM PDT by Spirochete (Just say NO to RINOs)
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To: Durus

But we wont fight them. Its not politically correct. Unlike the Greatest Generation that won WWII, our generation is a generation of zombies. The Government gives us bread and circuses to distract us. Massive debt? Tyrannical government? Destruction of American values? Eh, turn on American Idol! The 2010 elections are a turning point. If we cant rouse the majority of sleeping Americans to vote the socialists out, we are lost. Might as well give California to Mexico. The Mexicans can have the debt, too.


26 posted on 07/19/2010 6:20:16 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: agere_contra

Huge difference on abortion...read the article.


27 posted on 07/19/2010 6:32:23 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Clintonfatigued
Is California Irredeemably Blue?

You have to ask!!??? Boxer is an idiot, no doubt about that, but Carly is just nuts!! Californians have no choice in that race.

28 posted on 07/19/2010 6:42:53 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: bcsco

I left Cal in 06, right before it began to fall.


29 posted on 07/19/2010 6:44:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Haven’t we learned yet? Even a Republican from California will be a liberal RINO.


30 posted on 07/19/2010 6:47:36 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I have a cousin who left around that time (or shortly thereafter) for Colorado. With him as well, it was time to get out.


31 posted on 07/19/2010 6:49:06 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: bcsco

The taxes and state government regulation make it almost impossible to run a business in California.Toss in 6-7 million illegal immigrants sucking it dry. California is doomed.


32 posted on 07/19/2010 6:55:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
California is doomed.

Yep. I keep waiting to see how long it takes the entertainment industry to wise up and begin leaving. But then again, I can't say they're the most practiced hands at profitability I've encountered...

But, if they do leave, I don't want them coming to my back yard (little chance of that, though).

33 posted on 07/19/2010 7:05:19 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: bcsco

The entertainment industry is a trillion dollar enterprise. It is one of the only things propping up California right now, and even they are looking to leave. If and when they do, Cal is toast.


34 posted on 07/19/2010 7:08:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: agere_contra

“Carly is not so very different from Boxer, so the point is hardly tested”.

You have to be kidding.........


35 posted on 07/19/2010 7:10:38 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They’ve been filming more and more in the heartland to control costs, but what will break the camel’s back is their departure from CA. May God help the region they eventually relocate to, though I might recommend Portland or Seattle...


36 posted on 07/19/2010 7:11:21 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: Astronaut
Speak for yourself. Sure there are a lot of brain dead idiots today. Groups of people since the 1860’s have worked diligently to make our populace uneducated and easily distracted. After 100 years of the most deceptive practices conceived of by socialists, after our government being invested with their ilk, after anyone that has tried to stop them has been character assassinated, if not worse, they are still just barely able to eke a majority.

We are on the cusp of breaking their backs and we have people talking surrender? For the first time for more then 100 years their machinations behind the scenes are nakedly obvious to anyone that will look. Their “Brilliant” “Post Racial” “Chosen One” President is bleeding supports from his own parties most dedicated. The Global warming hoax has been proven to be just that. Their global warming prophet Al Gore has been demonstrated to be an unfaithful liar.

Despite all of this they still fight on, and guess what, the forces of evil will never stop. If you and I don't have the will to fight on then we shall surely lose. Your concern over American Idol and such is justified, but if you look carefully at the demographics, leftists are far more absorbed by such trivia then the rest of us.
37 posted on 07/19/2010 7:43:12 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Good old Carly Fiorina, who at HP never found a job that could not be outsourced to India or China or given to a guest worker.

She left/was forced out of HP:
http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/


38 posted on 07/19/2010 7:44:50 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ScottinVA

They thought that about us at one time and the educated them. We can educate them again if need be. Our bigger concern is the socialist mindset that has allowed this problem to persist.


39 posted on 07/19/2010 7:49:27 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj; firebrand; ml/nj; Just A Nobody; theothercheek; smoothsailing; ...

Ping!!!


40 posted on 07/19/2010 7:56:18 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Durus

Excellent post!!


41 posted on 07/19/2010 8:02:02 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Tolsti2

Until 20 years ago or so, Southern California was very conservative, while the north was well known for its basket cases. Now the south has been overrun.


42 posted on 07/19/2010 8:13:28 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


43 posted on 07/20/2010 9:03:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Clintonfatigued; stephenjohnbanker

Good, handy, referrable, snapshop picture of how ruined California really is.

I remember when it was the most beautiful, most God-gifted, most majestic and exciting can-do state in the Union. Now huge swaths of it are like a public toilet.

As for Boxer vs Fiorina? I wouldn’t care if Fiorina was a dentally decomposing meth addict who picked her nose. I’d vote for her just to have the pleasure of giving Boxer a roundhouse smack that collapses her right through the ropes.


44 posted on 07/26/2010 10:05:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If Boxer wins its because the CA GOP put up an absolute JOKE as their candidate, pure and simple.


45 posted on 07/26/2010 10:07:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I remember when it was the most beautiful, most God-gifted, most majestic and exciting can-do state in the Union. Now huge swaths of it are like a public toilet”

I was there 1976-2006

1976 Heaven on earth

2006 Hell on earth


46 posted on 07/26/2010 10:20:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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