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Mel Gibson Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of Right-wing Catholic Ideology
Slate ^ | 7/19/10 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 07/19/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Another leftist writer has discovered that....gasp! It’s all the fault of a Right Wing Papist Cabal!

(((yawn)))


51 posted on 07/19/2010 6:43:01 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hitchens thinks himself a god and judge. Hmmmm. Hitch....wouldn’t be so quick to judge! AND how dare you attack Braveheart....oh the narcissism in homosexuality was portrayed so perfectly in that movie....it showed how destructive it is to the natural order and how it is all consumed with Lust and idolatry. Hitch wants us to throw out Natural Law and glorify acts that are nihilistic and cause disease and teach children to embrace perverse acts and defy Natural Law. Truth out the window like the “lusting” boyfriend in that great movie!

Virtue leads to true happiness, Hitch—read your classical literature.

Teach children there are NO moral absolutes—like in your godless world—and see what you get. I would even rather abide by Mel’s religion than your hell-hole, Hitch!

Mel did an EXCELLENT job in that Braveheart movie. Longshanks was portrayed as the evil bast*ard that he was......Moral absolutes and character MATTERED-—wow—what a concept in modern movies....evil portrayed as evil and good as good (although not quite perfect.) BTW, I love Churchill and Wilberforce so don’t think I hate the English.

Hate those moral absolutes don’t you, Hitch? NO common sense, Natural Law rules for you, huh?

Moral Absolutes and Shame—It is what made the U.S. so great and successful and so satisfying for families to live and grow up in. The Pope is right; Nietzsche is wrong. Proof in the past....remember, Hitch, utopia can not exist on earth....that should be evident to you even with all your success and money.

I think the fact that homosexuality is loathed is one of the biggest factors against Mel. He is SO un-PC (which is killing the West—isn’t it, Hitch!!!)

Mel probably turned away a myriad of lover boys who drooled at his fabulous body and beautiful face! Bet he made more homosexual enemies than any other kind.

What talent—what a gift from God! Is Mel perfect? Absolutely NOT! But what a lot of great, great things he has done in his life! Thanks, Mel. BTW, I doubt that there is a racist bone in his body. His anger at that slutty Russian woman was probably right on....but he was just as fed up with his own gullible stupidity and the fact that a horrible women will be able to raise his child. He is SICK about that, believe me!

That he hates Jews? Well, maybe he thinks they are not going to be saved but does that make one hate someone? Just because I am a Catholic and think I have the most perfect belief on earth, I don’t hate others....Christianity forbids that.

I understand your hatred for religion because of your mother but that is as nonsensical as Mel’s so-called hatred.


52 posted on 07/19/2010 6:44:15 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: pissant

Me too.


53 posted on 07/19/2010 6:48:13 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: padre35

“that is a bit like a a vegetarian reviewing steaks at a Ruth Crisp’s..”

LOL
Another nail gets hit upon its head!


54 posted on 07/19/2010 6:48:47 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Clintonfatigued
"BS. These are the ravings of an arrogant, pampered Hollywood booze-bag."

Yep. Pretty much. Gibson's Catholicism is just a convenient high-profile opportunity for Hitchen's to display his moronic bigotry.

55 posted on 07/19/2010 6:48:59 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I am disturbed that FOX News has even mentioned such a tabloid story as the Mel Gibson tapes! I do not tune into FOX To be entertained, but to be informed on issues that may affect my life in America or the world! I would also like to see FOX News interview true conservatives like Duncan L. Hunter, and Thomas Sowell rather than all the RINOs they continually feature. The last bastion is beginning to fall in with the rest of the news Media!


56 posted on 07/19/2010 6:56:51 PM PDT by Paperdoll (REGISTER TO VOTE THEN DO IT RIGHT!)
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To: Fred
This fact negates any feeble case that Hitchens is attempting to make.

Thanks for posting that. I over looked who wrote it, now I don't have to read any farther.

57 posted on 07/19/2010 6:58:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Mel is just a draft dodger from Peekskill, New York.

No he isn't. Mel was 12 years old in 1968 when his family moved to Australia, and the draft ended in January, 1973, Mel was never in a position to be drafted, or to "dodge" the draft.

58 posted on 07/19/2010 7:02:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

If he really is bi-polar then he has less control over his mouth than a drunk would. Jekyll and Hyde is an accurate and literal description of how a bi-polar person can act.


59 posted on 07/19/2010 7:05:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

As anyone who’s been on FR very long knows, I’m definitely no friend of the Catholic religion, but I think this drunken tirade from “The Hitch” is ridiculous. Chrissie needs to go back to Syria and gets his tail kicked again - might knock some sense into him.


60 posted on 07/19/2010 7:06:14 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: steve86

Yes.


61 posted on 07/19/2010 7:06:24 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Christopher Hitchens is exactly the sort of fool who will tell you Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, the Khmer Rouge and Hitler (among others) murdering tens of millions had nothing to do with their atheism, but Gibson spewing racism is undeniably the result of him being a Catholic.

Oh, and he’s also the sort of fool who’ll tell you that Gibson is vicious because he’s a Catholic, but every good thing other Catholics have done has nothing to do with their being Christians.

In other words, he’s a sad, sad fool, one who had better repent because Hell is close.


62 posted on 07/19/2010 7:07:46 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Mel sounds like my ex and that's why i left him. No excuse for his behavior
63 posted on 07/19/2010 7:14:07 PM PDT by FreeperDoll
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

The title of this article is just ludicrous. Absurd, really.


64 posted on 07/19/2010 7:15:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: tumblindice
Denzel's a conservative? How'd I miss that, and where has he been these days?

(Off thread-topic, I know, but with accusations of racism being lobbed at the Tea Party movement lately, his voice could be utilized as an invaluable antidote in the 2010 campaign. Probably afraid of not getting work but, having already achieved the Oscar career milestone it might be as good a time as any to switch things up and focus his considerable charisma towards politics. Jmho.)

65 posted on 07/19/2010 7:18:22 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m curious to know why “Oksana refused to sign the long form ($15 million deal), claiming she felt coerced.”

ROL didn’t pay her for the tapes either.


66 posted on 07/19/2010 7:27:22 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: padre35

Loved your last line...but it’s Ruths Chris Steak House. Just sayin’.


67 posted on 07/19/2010 7:27:49 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: OldNavyVet

Beliefs belong in any aspect of one’s life that they see fit. Anyone who (for example) claims to be a disciple of the man who is the Way, the Truth and the Life, I am the Living One who was dead but is now alive for ever and ever, holding the keys of death and Hades, is kidding themselves if they confine that to an hour or so on one day out of seven.

When people say that person should do that, they’re saying something about themselves, not the devout.


68 posted on 07/19/2010 7:28:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: ansel12

Gibson Sr. didn’t want any of his sons to have to serve-I think he had 6 or 7 sons.


69 posted on 07/19/2010 7:30:12 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

No, of course not. And they never murder tens of millions of people trying to creat an earthly paradise, either.


70 posted on 07/19/2010 7:30:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: SuzyQue
Well, you know this is at least a part of why this story is getting so much coverage, when things like Acorn and the black panthers stories aren’t. One fits the agenda and one doesn’t.

The tabloids will make a fortune over this story.

71 posted on 07/19/2010 7:30:28 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: SuziQ; Fred

Dead on, folks.


72 posted on 07/19/2010 7:32:13 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: big'ol_freeper
"You’d have to be a pretty big ass to post some garbage like this."

Look at the bright side. At least its up front rather than hiding it behind 'science' like the crevo threads (may they stay in the garbage bin of history).

73 posted on 07/19/2010 7:33:03 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hitch: STFU and take care of your illness.


74 posted on 07/19/2010 7:33:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Heckuva job, Brownie!.)
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To: Brimack34

Guess they must be closet Catholic right-wingers. Hitchens couldn’t possibly be wrong, he’s a font of wisdom!


75 posted on 07/19/2010 7:34:08 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Amberdawn

I makes no difference. The draft ended a year before Mel turned 18.


76 posted on 07/19/2010 7:34:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Mel Gibson Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of Right-wing Catholic Ideology

Now let us kneel in respectful silence as the beautiful indigenous Spanish speaking sixteenth century Inquisition Catholics (who lived in Turtle Island for seven hundred gazillion years before that redneck Columbus ruined it all) crawl ten miles on their knees over ground glass before crucifying themselves. Viva la huelga! [/sarcasm]

77 posted on 07/19/2010 7:37:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni beshevet `evrato!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
She claims not to know how the gossip site got the CD's.

I suppose we'll find out when the Sheriffs Dept investigation is finished.

78 posted on 07/19/2010 7:39:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ansel12
No he isn't. Mel was 12 years old in 1968 when his family moved to Australia, and the draft ended in January, 1973, Mel was never in a position to be drafted, or to "dodge" the draft.

Well Mel's father couldn't prophesy that in 1968 and he also has several older brothers.

79 posted on 07/19/2010 7:39:29 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: FreeperDoll
Mel sounds like my ex and that's why i left him. No excuse for his behavior.

Was he bipolar?

80 posted on 07/19/2010 7:41:30 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Kenny Bunk
Nothing ever happens there (or at least since Aaron Burr died)

Aaron Burr died in Peekskill? I did not know that!
81 posted on 07/19/2010 7:43:28 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: MissCalico

How does a father’s decision reflect on a 12 yr old’s character? It was still impossible to dodge a draft that didn’t exist when he was 18 anyway.


82 posted on 07/19/2010 7:43:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Last Dakotan
When I’m looking for an authority on the church, I always go with drunk atheists like Christopher Hitchens.

Especially when they have nothing to lose, given advancing throat cancer, surgery and chemotherapy. I'll pray for his soul, once he is silenced and meets his Maker.

83 posted on 07/19/2010 7:44:10 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Doesn't he have cancer?


84 posted on 07/19/2010 7:45:23 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Amberdawn

I know about the father, or any father having reasons for a major move, but Mel was never old enough to be a part of the Vietnam war draft, even he had lived in the US.

The claim that Mel was a draft dodger is just more of that fake nonsense that creeps post on the internet.


85 posted on 07/19/2010 7:45:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: MissCalico

The claim was that Mel Gibson was a draft dodger, that is a lie.


86 posted on 07/19/2010 7:47:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Salem
...a convenient high-profile opportunity for Hitchen's to display his moronic bigotry.

Ditto's!

87 posted on 07/19/2010 7:47:26 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Paperdoll
I am disturbed that FOX News has even mentioned such a tabloid story as the Mel Gibson tapes!

It's about money. Interested people will get the story from CNN if Fox doesn't give the story.

88 posted on 07/19/2010 7:48:02 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: rdb3

yes


89 posted on 07/19/2010 7:48:54 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

With the exceptions of abortion and gay marriage, the Catholic Church is a leftwing, not rightwing outfit.


90 posted on 07/19/2010 7:49:36 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Wow. Thanks for answering.


91 posted on 07/19/2010 7:53:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

The sheer idiocy of Hitchens makes “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” look amatuerish......


92 posted on 07/19/2010 7:57:08 PM PDT by cranked
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To: pgyanke

Scary is right ... Especially with people like Obama at the helm.

It’s likely that Big Brother can track us on the internet.


93 posted on 07/19/2010 8:00:22 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: rdb3

You’re very welcome...

...cancer of the esophagus...


94 posted on 07/19/2010 8:05:49 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: TigersEye
Sorry, my reply was directed to this part of your post: "...Mel was never in a position to be drafted..."

That being said, Mel's character doesn't appear to fall all that far from the apple tree, imho. (Let's please agree to disagree and leave it at that.)

95 posted on 07/19/2010 8:08:10 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Christopher Hitchens, eh?

I wonder it Hitchens ever considered a name change.....


96 posted on 07/19/2010 8:10:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

It’s really amazing what passes for the thought processes of an atheist.

He’s giving Dawkins a real run for his money in paranoia.


97 posted on 07/19/2010 8:14:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MissCalico

Well, it wasn’t my post you replied to but there is nothing to disagree about. He could not have dodged the draft because no draft existed when he turned 18. That is not an opinion that is a fact. I don’t really care what your personal opinion of him is.


98 posted on 07/19/2010 8:14:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Amberdawn

What is true? Why don’t you just post on the thread rather than freepmail?


99 posted on 07/19/2010 8:20:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: TigersEye

By moving his family abroad Mel’s dad clearly intended for all his sons (including Mel, if he were to become eligible) to dodge the draft. I agree, that a 12yr old Mel bears no responsibility for this.


100 posted on 07/19/2010 8:24:05 PM PDT by MissCalico
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