Skip to comments.Glenn Beck: Does Presidential Assassination Program Exist?
Posted on 07/20/2010 1:18:26 AM PDT by nmh
There are allegedly "dozens of Americans" on this hit list who "pose a threat" to the United States. National Security Adviser John Brennan said this:
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JOHN BRENNAN, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: There are, in my mind, dozens of U.S. persons who are in different parts of the world that are very concerning to us.
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So, we just shoot them on the spot and don't worry about their Miranda rights as American citizens? Now if it were on the battlefield fine, I get it. But away from the battlefield?
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BRENNAN: Our enemy is not terrorism, because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not terror, because terror is a state of mind and as Americans we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists, because jihad is a holy struggle a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself in one's community and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.
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Obama campaigned on closing down Gitmo, because of all the horrors and atrocities being committed there. By the way, has anyone seen the story covered by Fox that Gitmo inmates are watching "Twilight" on brand new flat panel TVs? Sounds horrible, doesn't it?. But Obama said Gitmo had to be closed because it didn't line up with America's "values and ideals" ...
Obama promised, if elected, to end the Bush administration system of warrant-less wiretaps. He believed it was an affront to human rights if phone calls to terrorists were monitored.
But it's totally cool to just shoot Americans suspected of terrorism?
(Excerpt) Read more at glennbeck.com ...
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GLENN GREENWALD, SALON: Look at the controversies that were created during the Bush administration, when the president got caught spying on American citizens without warrant or trying to detain them without due process. Here you're talking about something far more extreme. You're talking about targeting American citizens for murder, for assassination, based merely on the allegation that they're involved in terrorism. No evidence, no charges, no trial nothing.
DYLAN RATIGAN, MSNBC: His actions create a massive cognitive dissonance that actually allows him to get away with more than George W. Bush could when it comes to encroachments on civil liberties, facilitating theft from the American people or potentially calling you or me a terrorist and trying to have us killed.
GREENWALD: Well, I know that that's the fact...
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I don't think I would have looked into this story if it had been reported on some GOP blog. But these guys are so in the bag for Obama, it bears investigating.
Assassinating American citizens without due process? What happened to Miranda rights? Even the ACLU expressed: "profound concern about recent reports indicating that you have authorized a program that contemplates the killing of suspected terrorists including U.S. citizens located far away from zones of actual armed conflict. If accurately described, this program violates international law and, at least insofar as it affects U.S. citizens, it is also unconstitutional."
Notice the ACLU says "if accurately described." We asked the White House if we are accurately describing the presidential assassination program and were told to call the CIA.
America, you are in trouble.
You still don’t believe me?
Even MSNCB and the ACLU are upset about this!
They are hardly “right wing” people.
Thursday, Jul 1, 2010 13:02 ET
Glenn Greenwald The administration defends its assassination program
By Glenn Greenwald
In the wake of Leon Panetta’s public defense of the targeting of American citizens suspected (but never charged or convicted) of Terrorism, Obama officials are now apparently going around the country and, with chest-beating rhetoric, overtly defending their right to target Americans for assassination with no due process of any kind:
“If someone like Anwar al-Awlaki is responsible” for part of a plot “to kill more than 300 people over the city of Detroit,” [director of the National Counterterrorism Center Michael] Leiter said, “I think it would be wholly irresponsible for citizens like me, Leon Panetta, Defense Secretary (Robert) Gates, and ultimately the president, not to at least think about and potentially direct all the elements of national power to try to defend the American people” . . .
A woman in the crowd who identified herself as an American Civil Liberties Union member asked why there was no judicial review of such kill orders, citing the standard warrant requirements facing a policeman before entering a citizen’s home.
Leiter explained that while “a police officer does need a court order to go after a house,” the lawman “has a right of self-defense if someone pulls out a gun.” The U.S. government, Leiter insisted, has the same right. He added that there is congressional oversight of such actions.
For several reasons, this is misleading in the extreme. First, nobody disputes the military’s right (or the police’s) to use force if they seek to apprehend someone and that person begins shooting at them. That situation has nothing whatsoever to do with the presidential assassination program, which authorizes targeted killings without any attempt at apprehension and no matter what the person is doing at the time: i.e., sleeping, riding in a car, watching television with their children, etc. (indeed, the administration has already tried to kill Awlaki in exactly this fashion without trying to apprehend him). If, as Leiter deceitfully suggests, this were only about the military or CIA’s use of force in the event that a suspect starts using violence during an attempted apprehension, then no presidential order would be needed because they already have that right, and there’d be no controversy. That’s just obvious. Instead, “[t]he Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing  targeted killing” of Americans. The police don’t have the right to put a bullet in the back of a suspect’s head while he sleeps or by sneaking up behind him while he walks on the street, which is the actual Police analogy to what the Obama administration is doing.
Monday, July 19, 2010
By Glenn Beck
Just like with Caesar, Congress is irrelevant. Did you know that in 2012, businesses will have to do a 1099 for any purchase over 600 bucks? It’s a paperwork nightmare, especially for small businesses. A freelance artist buys a Mac, they’ve got to send the form to Apple. Was that in the financial or health care bill? Health care. Why? Power.
One branch has been eaten and the next branch is about to be. Without due process, our president can assassinate American citizens. We’re not talking about the power to regulate or the power to tax, but the absolute power to kill.
I want to ask the question that stumped two politicians I was with this weekend: What is the definition of a dictator? Where is the line? They didn’t seem to know the exact answer. I suggest we find it and quickly.
Bush can spy on Americans without a warrant is a big issue.
Obama can assassinate Americans without a warrant is not a big issue
This is NAZI stuff!
Look at the lengths this Obama goes to having a trial for TERRORISTS that tried to MURDER us. They admit it. They want to die. He wanted to have the trial in NYC at an astonomical cost.
Now Americans are the target. No trial. No nothing. Just shoot them if they FEEL the person is a “dangerous American”.
This is freaking NUTS.
It’s like NAZI Germany! The target will be Americans anywher that don’t agree with this Marxist dictator.
Salon hardly a conservative website is going bonkers on this.
This is NAZI politics with AMERICANS as the target!
Need more prof Obama HATES America?
Wednesday, Apr 7, 2010 07:08 ET
Confirmed: Obama authorizes assassination of U.S. citizen
By Glenn Greenwald
No due process is accorded. No charges or trials are necessary. No evidence is offered, nor any opportunity for him to deny these accusations (which he has done vehemently through his family). None of that.
Instead, in Barack Obama’s America, the way guilt is determined for American citizens — and a death penalty imposed — is that the President, like the King he thinks he is, secretly decrees someone’s guilt as a Terrorist. He then dispatches his aides to run to America’s newspapers — cowardly hiding behind the shield of anonymity which they’re granted — to proclaim that the Guilty One shall be killed on sight because the Leader has decreed him to be a Terrorist. It is simply asserted that Awlaki has converted from a cleric who expresses anti-American views and advocates attacks on American military targets (advocacy which happens to be Constitutionally protected) to Actual Terrorist “involved in plots.” These newspapers then print this Executive Verdict with no questioning, no opposition, no investigation, no refutation as to its truth. And the punishment is thus decreed: this American citizen will now be murdered by the CIA because Barack Obama has ordered that it be done. What kind of person could possibly justify this or think that this is a legitimate government power?
Just to get a sense for how extreme this behavior is, consider — as the NYT reported — that not even George Bush targeted American citizens for this type of extra-judicial killing (though a 2002 drone attack in Yemen did result in the death of an American citizen). Even more strikingly, Antonin Scalia, in the 2004 case of Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, wrote an Opinion (joined by Justice Stevens) arguing that it was unconstitutional for the U.S. Government merely to imprison (let alone kill) American citizens as “enemy combatants”; instead, they argued, the Constitution required that Americans be charged with crimes (such as treason) and be given a trial before being punished. The full Hamdi Court held that at least some due process was required before Americans could be imprisoned as “enemy combatants.” Yet now, Barack Obama is claiming the right not merely to imprison, but to assassinate far from any battlefield, American citizens with no due process of any kind. Even GOP Congressman Pete Hoekstra, when questioning Adm. Blair, recognized the severe dangers raised by this asserted power.
And what about all the progressives who screamed for years about the Bush administration’s tyrannical treatment of Jose Padilla? Bush merely imprisoned Padilla for years without a trial. If that’s a vicious, tyrannical assault on the Constitution — and it was — what should they be saying about the Nobel Peace Prize winner’s assassination of American citizens without any due process?
Yea .. I guess that would be the correct terminology and descriptor for the program!
Obama hasn’t changed the patriot act either, so
Obama is spying on Americans without a warrant and the media don’t seem to call about this now
If you ARE a U.S. citizen on Obama’s list, as a “dangerous citizen, you do not get due process or a trial. Instead you are assassinated? It was a typo - "assination" but maybe it was a Freudian slip. We are looking that way as a nation. I am LIVID. This is NAZI politics.
It may have been a Freudian slip on your part,(Freudian finger?) but .. It fits!
I agree with you 100%
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Patriot Act under W had a sunset and had to be reviewed annually and renewed by Congress. I had heard that Obama did away with it, so no sunset.
Can’t find the source.
Very interesting that he did not mention muslim’s. The reason for that is he knows a muslim would assissinate him first and foremost.. The idiot has painted a bulls eye on himself and is too arrogant to see it...
Our conversation is with Yuri Alexandrovic Bezmenov. Mr. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite schools inside the Soviet Union; and became an expert in Indian culture and Indian languages.
He had an outstanding career with Novosti, which was, and still is I should say, the press arm or press agency of the Soviet Union; it turns out this is also a front, for the KGB.
He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet system; and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the worlds outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda; and disinformation and active measures.
Well, you spoke before about "ideological subversion" and that's a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't understand. When the Soviets use the phrase "ideological subversion" what do they mean by it?
1. Ideological subversion is the process which is [a] legitimate, old word, and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All American mass media has to do is to "unplug bananas" from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There is no mystery.It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising. That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all.According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion. Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science. Members of parliament, representatives of business circles.Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups: those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation; [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.Same way as in a small town of Hua in South Vietnam; several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when the city was captured by [the] Viet Cong for only two days; and American CIA could never figure out - how could [the communists] possibly know each Individual, where he lives, where to get him; and [in order that they] would be arrested in one night basically in four hours before dawn, put on a van, driven out of the city limits and shot.The answer is very simple. Long before communists occupy the city, there was extensive network of informers; local Vietnamese citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who are instrumental in public opinion - including Barbers and Taxi Drivers. Everyone who was sympathetic to United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi, and same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet Journalists, with whom I was personally friendly.
Yes, absolutely. They were idealistically minded leftist communists who had made several visits to the USSR; and yet the KGB decided, that come Revolution, or drastic changes in political structure of India - they will have to go.
Why is that?
Because they know too much. Simply, because, you see the useful idiots; the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet or Communist or Socialist or whatever system; when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That's why my KGB instructors specifically made the point, "never bother with leftists, forget about these political prostitutes - aim higher" this was my instruction. Try to get into, uh, large circulation, established conservative media. Reach filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals in so-called academic circles. Cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. This are the most recruitable people; people who lack moral principals - who are either too greedy or too, uh, suffer from self-importance, uh, they feel that they matter a lot. Uh, these are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.
But to eliminate the others; to execute the others, don't they serve some purpose - wouldn't they be the one's to rely on?
No they serve purpose only [up] to the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in [the] United States; all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion; only to destabilize a nation. When the job is completed, they are not needed anymore. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned - when they see that Marxist-Leninist come to power. Obviously they get offended; they think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen, of course; they will be lined up against the wall and shot. But they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninists when they come to power; and that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these former Marxist-Leninists were either put to prison or one of them split and now he's working against the SandinistasIt happened in Grenada when Maurice Bishop, he was already a Marxist - he was executed by the new Marxists who was more Marxist than this Marxist.Same happened in Afghanistan, when, uh, first there was Taraki he was killed by Amin, then Amin was killed by Karmal with the help of KGB.Same happened in Bangladesh where Mujibur Rahman, very pro-soviet leftist; was assassinated by his own Marxist-Leninist military comrades.It's the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are either executed entirely; all the idealistically minded Marxists. Or exiled, or put in prisons like in Cuba many former Marxists are in Cuba, and in prison.So basically America is Stuck, with demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy and patriotism.The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.
And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept - these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?
Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy [and] frustrated people, and Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents.
Unlike the present  United States there will be no place for dissent in future [2008, "Hate Speech" Colorado SB200] Marxist-Leninist America.
[Now] you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him the concentration camps...he will refuse to believe it.... until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.When the military boot crashes - then he will understand. But not before that. That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.
2. The next stage is destabilization....this time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter any more.
It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
3. The next stage of course is crisis, which may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now; and after crisis, with the violent change of power structure and economy, you have the period of so called "normalization" [which] it may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression, borrower from Soviet Propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, comrade Brezhnev said "Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized". This is what will happen in [the] United States if you allow all the shmucks to bring the country to crisis.
To promise people all kinds of goodies, and the paradise on Earth. Uh to destabilize your economy to eliminate the principal of free market competition; and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C.; with benevolent dictators like  Walter Mondale [2008 Obama] who will promise lots of things - Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He [the dictator] will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of a new generation of Soviet Assassins. Never mind [nothing to see here, move along], he will create false illusions that the situation is under control.Situation is NOT under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control.
Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you. You don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now; that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second the disaster is coming closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.This is it, this is the last country with freedom and possibility.
Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?
Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government. If people fail to grasp the impending danger; nothing ever will help the United States. You may kiss goodbye your freedoms, including [sending] homosexuals to prison inmate. All this freedom will vanish in 5 seconds - including your precious lives.
The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government, and I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity, I'm talking about FORCING [the] United States government to stop aiding Communism....
Don't you see it?
Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who wrote
And then again when he wrote
Yes, it is NAZI stuff and we are ALL Jews and Gypsies now.
I am of a differing mind. I think it was a mistake to take the assassination option off the table. Too many times since we have, situations that could have been nipped in the bud, have grown from annoyances into full fledged national security threats. I’m not trying to say that we should just kill any enemy that becomes a problem, nor that when we did, it always worked out, without unintended consequences...but it did solve several problems with one bullet, and saved many thousands from dying as a result. There *are* in this wiorld, individuals who on paper, are american citizens, but who have taken up arms against the US.
And frankly if the most optimal way to deal with them is two to the head, I have no problem with that. Some of these dangerous enemies might be here in the US, but I doubt those cannot be captured instead. But Capture or kill...implies that sometimes the best way to deal with an enemy is to *kill* them.
Surely an executive order would need to be signed, I doubt even Obama would dare to execute domestixc political opponants, if he knew that there were orders with his signature on them that could be revealed and a noose put around his neck for it. But I think it’s time Carters stupid ban on “wet work” in extreme situations, be revoked.
Oh, so if Obama gets the idea that I am a terrorist because I post on FR - thats fine with you for him to order me killed?
These are subhumans. You know. Whites. Jews. Republicans.
They and their cracker babies are not entitled to due process.
After reading everything I could readily find on this topic, I’m convinced that a Presidential Assassination Program can be a very good thing. I don’t, however, think our Executive Branch should choose the program’s targets....
What if they are hanging with jihadis in a village in tribal Pakistan, Somilia, Yemen, or somewhere else that is basically outside of the reach of any law enfocement? They aren't on a battlefield.
The devil, as always, is in the details.
Don’t sweat it..you’re gettign all upset over nothing..be assured that suspected Americans abroad will be read their Miranda rights, and then shot..
If you are a documented dangerous threat to the US, you cannot be arrested, or extracted, or otherwise neutralized...Then yes, He should have the option to sign an order for your assassination. Him, or the next President(s).
Even Presidential Orders, eventually come under scrutiny. You really think Obama would want to face execution for the likes of you?..or me?
Amen. It’s not like I didn’t warn people, (from his Chicago days until now).
Are those assinators Obama voters?
Is Bawney Fwank involved in this “assination”...??
Nothing to correct. You are right. It has to be renewed by Congress each new session.
*** I had heard that Obama did away with it, so no sunset. Cant find the source. ***
No offense, but you heard wrong. Plus 'Obama' can't do anything about it, only Congress can. And they did, Congress renewed it. And you can't find any 'source' as that would make Barry look bad, like the hypocrite he is, so the MSM buried it, if they covered it at all.
Your only chance of finding anything is to dig through every Vote Congress has taken, in BOTH Houses, on every little thing, since Barry was sworn in. And that is a very time consuming task. As if you search THOMAS with keyword 'Patriot Act' you prolly won't find anything as that's not the Bills 'real name'.
Bottom line, the Patriot Act lives and Barry is using it. 'Heck' he's expanding it at will.
I love it when people invent new words. There’s gotta be a use for that one. For instance, “Former USDA official Sherrod is a victim of self-assination.”
Ping. Pass it on.
No. I really think he thinks he can get away with it.
If Hitler had won would there have been any Nuremberg trials?
Don't be too surprised if every American who has ever lived votes democrat this November.
From an email earlier today.
Where would we jail all of them?
Wouldn't it be cheaper and simpler and more permanent to just, you know, eliminate the problem?
Doubtless it will have an innocuous name, maybe Ultimate Obama Care...
“Don’t be too surprised if every American who has ever lived votes democrat this November.”
Yes, there appear certain that they will WIN again!