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Video Flashback: Milton Friedman Schools a Young Michael Moore
Big Hollywood ^ | July 19, 2010 | Hollywoodland

Posted on 07/20/2010 3:16:59 AM PDT by TheHawksNest

Little something from the late 1970s, which means Moore is somewhere in his early to mid-twenties. At first you won’t believe that’s him, but hang in there. He’s much younger and thinner (weren’t we all), so you have too look and watch closely. After a while, the eyes, gestures, double talk, appeals to emotionalism and complete inability to understand or respect logic and facts will start to look familiar.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; economics; michaelmoore; miltonfriedman
You won't recognize Michael Moore by his looks, but you'd know his politics anywhere.
1 posted on 07/20/2010 3:17:04 AM PDT by TheHawksNest
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To: TheHawksNest

for later


2 posted on 07/20/2010 3:21:34 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: TheHawksNest

It’s painful to watch a debate when one of the people is clearly very smart and the other person is ... perhaps not stupid, but certainly operating at a much lower level. The young kid (Moore, or whomever) is in way over his head here.


3 posted on 07/20/2010 3:35:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: TheHawksNest

I’m not convinced it’s Michael Moore


4 posted on 07/20/2010 4:19:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: TheHawksNest

What was so beautiful about it is that Moore refutes his own argument while speaking. He admits to supporting abortion and says so he doesn’t put an absolute value on human life. Which means, what does it matter if Ford chooses to allow so many people to die a year? It’s a statistic just like abortion. If his thinking were consistent, that would be the conclusion.

We pro lifers on the other hand can credibly argue that unborn babies have no choice if they will live or die due to abortion. The people driving Pintos on the other hand, know that they are taking a larger risk of dying than the driver of a big caddy from that time period. They have a choice (due to economics or whatever) and have made it.


5 posted on 07/20/2010 4:20:11 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (u)
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To: TheHawksNest

I could listen to Milton Friedman lecture for hours.


6 posted on 07/20/2010 4:25:37 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Actually, I disagree.

One does not have to be unusually brilliant to understand Milton Friedman: his position is clear and logical.

To take the position of the young Michael Moore, one must be clever, but not exactly straight-thinking or consistent. There are many intelligent people who make very foolish mistakes, and take erroneous positions which even an ordinary person would know enough to avoid.

It has been said that one must be really clever to believe some things the liberals endorse! An eight-year-old would know better.


7 posted on 07/20/2010 4:31:14 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: TheHawksNest

This is what happens when a liberal arts major assumes that econ is so simple that he needn’t understand it before he beigns a debate. The young Moore focusses on benefits and suggests it’s venal to consider cost. Since it’s only $13 he thinks he’s operating on principle. This is how liberals think; so long as the cost is low (and someone else is paying it)the benefits should be free.


8 posted on 07/20/2010 4:31:17 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: TheHawksNest
To paraphrase Will Rogers, it's not that such people are ignorant, it's that they know so many things that just aren't so.

I think it's quite possible it is Michael Moore. The FAS facial features, body language, hair and skin tones, and, of course, the lefty ambusher’s political attitude are all there. But who cares? Any day when I get an unexpected dose of Milton Friedman dispensing his good natured wisdom to the great unwashed is a great day.

Thanks for the post

9 posted on 07/20/2010 4:55:05 AM PDT by Mobties
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To: TheHawksNest

bump for after work


10 posted on 07/20/2010 4:57:04 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: circlecity
I’m not convinced it’s Michael Moore

It doesn’t matter. If it's not MM, it's a “Michael Moore-thinkalike”. And the lesson is equally valid.
11 posted on 07/20/2010 5:00:08 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: TheHawksNest

I’m having a hard time believing that is Michael Moore. The politics and economics are certainly his, but it just doesn’t look like him at all.


12 posted on 07/20/2010 5:08:09 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie

I know exactly what you mean- and I HAVE listened to him for hours!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=milton+friedman+free+to+choose&aq=2


13 posted on 07/20/2010 5:14:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: OrioleFan

Prof. Friedman’s answer is absolutely brilliant. No other way to describe it. The lib assumes to a human life does not have infinite value. Prof. assumes that it does and ponders why we decide to take risks anyway.


14 posted on 07/20/2010 5:15:17 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: TheHawksNest
Don't know if this is Michael Moore (MM). There is a picture of him at http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2004-06-20-moore_x.htm which shows him to be heavier. The kid in the video is pretty skinny.
15 posted on 07/20/2010 5:39:59 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: TheHawksNest

Oh it’s MM alright that jaw is telling but the inability(for him) to understand what he was arguing,PRICELESS!


16 posted on 07/20/2010 5:43:23 AM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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To: muir_redwoods

“This is what happens when a liberal arts major assumes that econ is so simple that he needn’t understand it before he beigns a debate.”

And that is what frustrates me so much with my lib friends.

They think they know what they’re talking about - and boy can they grandstand about “justice” and “equality” - they are more compassionate - if only we could just open our minds to what is so clear to them!!!

And yet....these are art majors, psyche majors, education majors.
It is very rare to find a one of them that took courses in basic economics and finance.
And when you do find one - they tend to be less whacky than most.

And when you try to point out anything you have learned while studying economics, you usually get a snide “oh - I see they managed to brainwash you well”

So - you can’t win.
If you studied the material - you were brainwashed.


17 posted on 07/20/2010 5:50:14 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: TheHawksNest

I love Friedman and he is still one of my heroes. The kid (Moore?), however, made a clear error in his argument right from the jump. He applied the usual emotional argument “13 dollars could have saved this many lives” almost in the same breath as “I support abortion”. In other words, he doesn’t believe any lives (other than his own) are worth anything. It was only the usual attack on the free market system.

Friedman was, of course, brilliant.


18 posted on 07/20/2010 6:21:44 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Nailbiter; IncPen

ping


19 posted on 07/20/2010 6:53:05 AM PDT by IncPen (How can a man who won't produce his own documentation lecture the rest of us on immigration?)
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To: TheHawksNest
Here what I found "moore" troublesome than his inability to be logical and informed while facing the great Milton Friedman, him stating:

"I am a supporter of abortion, therefore I believe that not every human life is sacred..."
20 posted on 07/20/2010 7:21:40 AM PDT by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

I’m groaning at your play on words, but I completely agree, the abortion thing jumped out at me as well. We rarely see that kind of candor from major players on the feminist Left these days, but if you spend any time reading the comment sections of their blogs, that’s still a prevailing sentiment.


21 posted on 07/20/2010 8:40:16 PM PDT by TheHawksNest
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To: TheHawksNest
"I’m groaning at your play on words..."

Don't be hateful ;) I am happy you agree that he is such a moore-on :P
22 posted on 07/21/2010 6:12:10 AM PDT by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: circlecity

Oh come on. Was Michael Moore ever thin???????


23 posted on 07/25/2010 8:13:10 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (If my body dies, then let it die, but let my country live.)
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To: 13Sisters76

He also continually compared the cost of one part with the many lives, an error in logic.


24 posted on 07/25/2010 8:17:05 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (If my body dies, then let it die, but let my country live.)
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