Skip to comments.Roads to Ruin: Towns Rip Up the Pavement(America returning to the stone age?)
Posted on 07/20/2010 8:34:11 AM PDT by mick
Paved roads, historical emblems of American achievement, are being torn up across rural America and replaced with gravel or other rough surfaces as counties struggle with tight budgets and dwindling state and federal revenue. State money for local roads was cut in many places amid budget shortfalls.
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It’s called “devolution”.
How we sure we’re not talking about milling...and putting chips on the roads which does away with the old system of repaving.
In Texas, we don’t rip our roads up... we sell ‘em to Spain and they rent ‘em back to us. :-)
It's a great economical move on the part of the county. The new stones are loose for a while but get gound in after a couple of weeks.
Town of Webster Monroe County NYS
And we are, with a $1.4T deficit this year, and we can't afford to pave our roads.
Blows me away.
Yup...then pay unemployed for make-work jobs to build roads, etc.
Send in Shirley Sherrod, she will get those crackers rolling down the highway in no time.
The last 40 miles was gravel and dirt roads...Lotsa excitement...the car was all over the place. Occasionally, we'd see a grader making the road nice, nice again....
Sometimes you have to chose what’s more important: paving the roads, or feeding, clothing, housing, imprisoning, medical for the illegal Mexicans who do the jobs Americans on unemployment won’t do.
40 miles of dirt roads, I bet you swore you felt like the car was losing bolts and screws! After that long on dirt roads, it’s always a shock to get out and see the car still in tact.
>> Evey time it rains, culverts that could swallow a car. Dust, mud......
Keeps the tourist riff-raff out though... right?
>> feeding, clothing, housing, imprisoning, medical for the illegal Mexicans
We don’t imprison any.
(rest of it is accurate though)
People need to find non government solutions to the problems arising from government’s waste and mismanagement. The first step to making improvements and maintenance affordable is to get government out of the process.
So we all take what is written at face value? What is wrong with the old needs based assessment of spending of tax dollars. If a road has 10 cars per day drive down it then how is it fair that that particular road gets expensive paving? There are lots of road around where I live that are perfectly drivable as dirt roads - they are solid, have fewer pot holes than paved roads and are inexpensive to maintain.
I don’t think this portends some demise in our economy but common sense. We get all emotional about things like an article saying we are headed back to the stone age - come on!
There exists a concept I call “Good enough” - and it should be applied to everything involving taxpayer dollars. Is the school “good enough” or do we need it to be some palace? Is the road good enough or do we need it to be paved, lined, with a bicycle path alongside?
I applaud these states, cities and townships who make these difficult decisions. It’s way past time that we all look at any tax expenditure with an eye toward how many it affects and not just who it affects. If a rural road has 2 homes per mile their tax investment certainly can’t match that of a city street with 200 homes per mile - so we need to spend accordingly.
Nothing like a walleye from fresh Canadian waters!!!
But if we just wait long enough the roads will rebuild themselves.
Afterall, that's how we humans got here, right?
Given the magic element of enough time, the Law of Entropy that says things go from order to disorder gets reversed by one of an infinite number of possibilities coming to fruition and evolution causing it to progress.
The eventual result of this anomaly of nature and reality is what we now know as the Progressive/Democrat Party.
So maybe breaking up the roads is really Progress, because it's providing something more akin to raw materials for time to work its magic on.
They know what they are doing. After a few months the taxpayers will be happy to cough up a few more bucks to pay for new roads.
There you go tryin to be all sensible again!
“Sometimes you have to chose whats more important: paving the roads, or feeding, clothing, housing, imprisoning, medical for the illegal Mexicans who do the jobs Americans on unemployment wont do.”
Spot on. At an average of $30k in taxes per illegal I’m a guessing we could have nicely paved roads down to every outhouse in the country. Hell, we could even afford to have SEIU thugs install the asphalt and still come out ahead. I wonder why we don’t do it?
Not in my town! We are tearing up perfectly good sidewalks and replacing them....all in the name of stimulus cash!
Obummer’s “Recovery Act” signs are plastered all over town. UGH!
The waste really ticks me off
Right out of the pages of Atlas Shrugged. It amazes me how prescient Ayn Rand was.
***40 miles of dirt roads, I bet you swore you felt like the car was losing bolts and screws!***
Ever been to Sitting Bull Falls near Carlsbad, NM or left Counselor, NM and headed for Chaco Canyon?
Ever tried driving the back roads through the Ozarks?
There are lots of unpaved backroads out there!
***Not in my town! We are tearing up perfectly good sidewalks and replacing them....all in the name of stimulus cash!***
That was also done back in the 1930s. the sidewalks were all stamped...WPA (We Piddle Around) as my grandmother used to say!
I hate when the press does this... they find some obscure example of something and say..” Some towns are tearing up their paved roads...” Implying that many are doing it. It took me 15 min. but the town of spiritwood ND has barley 100 people in it. This does not make a trend, and barely worth noting.
Yea, but we get to keep the mineral rights!
I was thinking of Children of Men (the book). In that distopia the British government's sole concern is managing the efficient demise of civilization due to the end of human fertility.
They stopped maintaining and then tore up roads and engaged in forced euthanasia. Chilling stuff.
Propaganda by the MSM to justify some government tax increase.
Thank GOD that zero has this country moving in the “right” direction!!!
I have only owned one house in my life that was on a paved road, and I swore I would never own another one. If they ever try to pave my road I will file suit to block it.
Once a road get paved it turns into a drag strip and urban yuppies want to buy a tiny lot and build build a house. Then they bitch about everything normal in rural life.
LOL, whats all the fuss over dirt & gravel roads? I think they make far more sense than hot tops, in the end requiring far less inputs. I lived on one in NH and 2 or 3 times/yr it would get graded and sometimes stone aded. The road was never terrible even tho it had water issues. In fact it was better most of the time than hot tops. Those required more expensive inputs and repair procedures so maint was done only when dire. Give me a dirt/gravel road any day. Oh, and they dont slick up nearly so bad as a hot top.
In many cases product like “EarthZyme” and “TeraZyme” can replace ashphalt for lower traffic roads. The soil content must be suitable.
Sure have. Well, not the Ozarks but the New Mexico and Chaco roads. (displaced Arizonian in exile in North Carolina...my soul aches for the southwest)
What we are seeing are the effects of the bursting of a debt bubble and debt deflation.
But, turning paved roads to gravel, that'll punish the skinflints. It probably doesn't even save any money. Do they layoff highway workers?
This action will destroy any businesses located on the gravel roads, thus further reducing tax revenue. It is punitive, plain and simple.
that book irritated me to the point i just wanted to throw it out the window but for some odd reason i couldn’t. i had to finish it and that just made me mad. and i agree there were some chilling aspects of the book.
Close to a third of the inmates in our jail are Mexican nationals. The ones in there for murder and trafficking are not being deported any time soon. I’d say that qualifies for imprisoning.
I was being sarcastic, not so much disputing your statement (as in, “For reasons of political correctness, we don’t jail near ENOUGH of em!”).
Your facts are no doubt correct.
Several years ago, the State Board of Public Roads created a new classification called “minimum maintenance roads”. What that means is that they are given essentially NO maintenance. However, it only applied to a small percentage of the roads. There had to be no more than two households who depended on the road to get in or out.
Now they have created a new classification called “remote residential road maintenance”. It calls for a little bit more maintenance, but not much. Rather than being repaired or overlayed, it will be broken up and returned to gravel. The rules allow up to seven households who depend on the road to get in or out.
It covers about 40% of all the roads in the state. The near future should be interesting.
Just this Spring the road out in front of my house got changed over from tar sprayed on gravel to asphalt paved.
Love the road noise reduction.