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A Year After Honeymoon Ends, Whites, Men and Independents Desert Obama (Quinnipiac Poll bad news)
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 21, 2010 | Peter A. Brown

Posted on 07/21/2010 5:33:06 AM PDT by Zakeet

It was a year ago this month that President Barack Obama began losing voters. In the 12 months since, he has had legislative victories that appear – especially in the case of health care – to have cost him large amounts of both political capital and political support.

A comparison of the public’s views of him then and now tells us a great deal about the shape of American politics and how difficult it is for any president, even one as politically gifted as Barack Obama, to surmount the nation’s deep political and ideological divisions.

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On Election Day 2008, much was made of the increased turnout that Mr. Obama inspired among young voters and African-Americans, and to be sure that fattened his margin. But he won the White House because, the exit polling showed, he got 49% of men, 43% of whites and 52% of independents. Each of these three groups individually makes up a larger share of the electorate than blacks and young people combined.

In July 2009, President Obama had actually grown that support so that he was getting a thumbs-up job approval from 54% of men, 51% of whites and 52% of independents.

But today, the numbers for those three groups show just how far he has fallen. He gets a positive job approval from just 37% of whites, 38% of independents and 39% of men – a roughly 30% drop in all three groups in his support.

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All of which suggests the last year has convinced an awful lot of the folks who hadn’t voted Democratic for president in some time before supporting President Obama to rethink their politics with an eye toward returning to their political roots.

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It's really bad for the Wee Wee when the libtards at Quinnipiac University say he is toast.

1 posted on 07/21/2010 5:33:11 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
even one as politically gifted as Barack Obama

I stopped reading there.

2 posted on 07/21/2010 5:34:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Zakeet

It must have been a honeymoon,because we all got sc—w-d.


3 posted on 07/21/2010 5:35:20 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

LOL


4 posted on 07/21/2010 5:36:29 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Sharon Angle has the Right Angle-We are Angling for Victory against Reid. www.sharronangle.com)
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To: Zakeet

Dictators don’t care about approval ratings.


5 posted on 07/21/2010 5:37:33 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Zakeet
We expect a leader to be effective in his job, not just a public relations artist who is "all hat and no cattle."

WAKE UP AMERICA!


OBAMA-ALL HAT...
Obama, all hat and no...

6 posted on 07/21/2010 5:38:12 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Zakeet

Honeymoon is over because he was cheating on them before it started. Cheating with communism while promising hope and change.

They got the change without hope.


7 posted on 07/21/2010 5:39:18 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: Zakeet

"wat?"

8 posted on 07/21/2010 5:40:23 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Zakeet

Better late than never, I suppose. But a lot of damage has already been done.

This has been, and will continue to be, a VERY expensive lesson for the American people.

So if you lose your job, your health insurance, your retirement investments, or an American city to a terrorist attack . . . thank an independent!


9 posted on 07/21/2010 5:42:46 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Zakeet

and 52% of independents.......................... I really don’t buy into that. He may have gotten 52% of the ones that voted, but I believe a large percentage of Independents never left their homes to vote.


10 posted on 07/21/2010 5:43:30 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (As Americans we must think We the People, not we the Party.)
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To: Zakeet

He’s all WU-WEIED up..............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_wei


11 posted on 07/21/2010 5:46:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him on speed dial...............)
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To: Zakeet

Its over two years until the Presidential Election. Why the heck should he care.
Heck, if he’s the kamikaze I think he is, this is meaningless.


12 posted on 07/21/2010 5:51:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Red Badger

The Big Wu-Weied

13 posted on 07/21/2010 5:53:15 AM PDT by Zakeet (The Big Wee Wee -- rapidly moving America from WTF to SNAFU to FUBAR)
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To: Little Ray
if he’s the kamikaze I think he is, this is meaningless.

Agreed, he'll just hammer the stake into the heart of America even faster. Executive orders, whatever it takes to complete the "fundamental transformation of America."
14 posted on 07/21/2010 5:54:14 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

is it too soon to start calling this the FUBU Presidency?


15 posted on 07/21/2010 5:55:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Zakeet

Obama is not toast.

Blacks will never, ever turn their backs on him.
All those squishy, self-loathing white liberals who are wavering will come back in droves when given a chance.

In November, Republicans will gain control of at least 1 chamber of Congress. With that shift in power will come more reasonable legislation, and less instability. That will equal modest gains in the economy.

The Republicans in control will also allow BHO and the State Controlled Media to attribute ALL problems to the Republicans.

Get ready for BHO part II.


16 posted on 07/21/2010 5:55:19 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Zakeet
...with an eye toward returning to their political roots...

The destruction of American exceptionalism by this regime is beyond mere 'politics'.

17 posted on 07/21/2010 5:55:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I question any heterosexual white male who voted for him.


18 posted on 07/21/2010 6:00:34 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: Bringbackthedraft

A large percentage of Americans f any persuasion don’t vote in a specific election, period.


19 posted on 07/21/2010 6:01:36 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“even one as politically gifted as Barack Obama
I stopped reading there.”

The only political gift Mr. Skittles possesses is a knee pad suck up press. I would say he possesses little no political skills at all. Preaching to the choir is easy, but its not considered political art.


20 posted on 07/21/2010 6:02:24 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Zakeet

Typical lefty responses I often hear from those who claim to be much more enlightened,progressive and sophisticated in their thought process on my many disagree with Obama:

1)Ignorant electorate vote against their own economic interests due to Fox news propaganda

2) Middle America is stupid

3) The economy is too complex for the individual to make their own choices

4) Health care in Canada works wonderfully and it’s privately run(actual quote)

Question :Why do Canadians come to the USA for surgery??/

Answer—Because of demographics in rural area where their are not enough doctors.

Question: Why do so many Canadians from Toronto come to the USA for surgery then???

Answer: Blank stare

5) Governments job is too make everything fair and that is what Obama is doing

6) They oppose Obama because he is black

7) The stimulus worked because GNP is up(actual quote and ignored any productivity gains)

8) Suspending income taxes for a year instead of using a stimulus would not work because it’s not fair to those who don’t pay taxes and the rich would just save their money rather then spend it.

It’s FUN to discuss political issues with lefties and I encourage EVERYONE to engage them.


21 posted on 07/21/2010 6:02:32 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: TornadoAlley3
It must be nice to be a professional pollster. You don't have to understand what causes an event.

LBJ's 1964 victory was because of JFK's assassination less than a year before - not because LBJ was such a remarkable president.

WJC’s 1968 victory was, to a significant degree, a response to the Republicans 1994 victories. The American public likes a divided government where no one political party controls everything.

BHOI’s 2009 victory was the result of many things. The most important was the concerted effort by the national media to get a know nothing, done nothing, snake oil salesman president.

BTW the real meaning of “margin of error” is the ability of the survey to repeat the results. It is an internal check of the poll’s process NOT the accuracy of the poll.

22 posted on 07/21/2010 6:03:25 AM PDT by Nip (Islam - a religion of piece (your head and life). Truth depends on the spelling)
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To: Zakeet

what honeymoon? I’m proud to be anti-Obama from 2004


23 posted on 07/21/2010 6:07:33 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Zakeet; All
He began losing voters a year ago--do you remember the instance? At the end of his "news" conference, where the media kissed his butt for an hour, he said the police in Cambridge "acted stupidly". Even some blacks (though a small number, admittedly) began to walk away--I witnessed it.

Of course, he still has a 95% support among the media and according to Gallup an 85% support among African-Americans.

24 posted on 07/21/2010 6:07:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Zakeet

Epic Fail.


25 posted on 07/21/2010 6:11:59 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Nip
WJC’s 1968 victory was, to a significant degree, a response to the Republicans 1994 victories.

Dude, don't drink and time-travel. ;)

/johnny

26 posted on 07/21/2010 6:19:15 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Zakeet

“.....he has had legislative victories that appear – especially in the case of health care – to have cost him large amounts of both political capital and political support.”

So, How are they “victories” when the results are losses? Seems when losers win we all lose.

“.....even one as politically gifted as Barack Obama.....”

I guess instead of Bullshit we must now use the term “politically gifted”?

“....He gets a positive job approval from just 37% of whites, 38% of independents and 39% of men – a roughly 30% drop in all three groups in his support.”

That’s still way too many morons for a November house cleaning.


27 posted on 07/21/2010 6:22:28 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Liberalism draws criminals as excrement draws flies. Liberals are only good for bait.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Or is that FUBAR?


28 posted on 07/21/2010 6:25:50 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Zakeet

So, people finally see what President Shinola REALLY is.


29 posted on 07/21/2010 6:25:50 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Everything I needed to know about 0bama, I learned from Wesley Mouch.)
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To: Zakeet

A liberal friend of mine said “We’re tired of hope. We need results.”


30 posted on 07/21/2010 6:27:54 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Truth is, he’s demonstrated time and again a remarkable political tone-deafness.


31 posted on 07/21/2010 6:32:59 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Zakeet
It is not just that the mythical "honeymoon" is over...it is that most of America wants a DIVORCE.

And, Obama is not "gifted politically," but, he is a highly gifted, practiced, and accomplished liar, just as most narcissists,and quite capable of fooling those he draws into his fog. At least for a while.

32 posted on 07/21/2010 6:39:10 AM PDT by CitizenM (n)
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To: whence911

Yeah. Just like my last two. :-(


33 posted on 07/21/2010 6:41:58 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

More like FUBAR.


34 posted on 07/21/2010 6:44:13 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I think he began to lose voters when he started the, "We won," song and dance.

You don't alienate your opposition after the election. You try to get some of them on board, because you're not going to keep all of your supporters.

Richard Nixon taught me that lesson in 1968.

He made this incredibly gracious acceptance speech, welcoming the opposition. I thought, "We won! What's he doing this for?"

Then I came to realize that he needed to at least act like he was president of all the people because he had other battles coming up.

35 posted on 07/21/2010 7:12:57 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: gthog61
I only know of one who will admit it, he is a former Public School principal...yes, he's white, yes, he's an idiot. His love for the 0 is exceeded only by his hate for Palin.
36 posted on 07/21/2010 7:15:55 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
He has 95% support of the media because there is no media, they are all propagandists.

One thing to remember, when someone you supported turns in a direction you don't like. . . you start searching for real answers. Those answers are found with Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. More and more people who supported Obama and voted for him are now looking in the other direction. They don't always agree 100%, but they start to listen and learn. It's a total revelation. I know, because in 1998 I was one of them. : )

37 posted on 07/21/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by mia
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To: brownsfan

Doesn’t there ever come a time when we don’t need to pass laws and start repealing old ones?


38 posted on 07/21/2010 8:28:20 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Zakeet
how difficult it is for any president, even one as politically gifted as Barack Obama, to surmount the nation’s deep political and ideological divisions.

Complete BS. These aren't political and ideological divisions - it's the division between Americans and a marxist leftist dictator-wannabe.

39 posted on 07/21/2010 9:24:58 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Zakeet

I believe that the majority of Obama voters by in large still have their head way up their A!! and can’t see the forest for the trees.

Maybe because they are benefiting financially and don’t want to see or hear or they are just too stupid to grasp any measure of reality.


40 posted on 07/21/2010 9:36:14 AM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: All

The shocker would be if these groups still supported Obama.

I really think that November is going to be Quake like. 2012 will be tougher due to the media informing the comatose American public, but we will win it fairly handily.


41 posted on 07/21/2010 9:46:39 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: cvq3842
So if you lose your job, your health insurance, your retirement investments, or an American city to a terrorist attack . . . thank an independent!

No, no, no; uh uh! BLAME EVERY FRIGGIN' PERSON WHO VOTED FOR THE MARXIST, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!! I hope everyone of them loses their job, their health insurance and their retirement. Maybe next time they will be a more informed voter.
42 posted on 07/21/2010 10:10:59 AM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: no dems; All

Ref. my Post #42: Hell yes I’m mad.


43 posted on 07/21/2010 10:12:20 AM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: no dems

Understood.


44 posted on 07/21/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

“So if you lose your job, your health insurance, your retirement investments, or an American city to a terrorist attack . . . thank an independent!”

WRONG!!! You can thank the voters who kept holding their noses and voting for the lesser of two evils instead of voting on principle. We didn’t just wake up one day and Obama was President. This progression towards socialism has been coming at us for over 20 years starting with ‘one world Bush’.


45 posted on 07/21/2010 6:54:04 PM PDT by doc
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To: doc

I understand your point.


46 posted on 07/22/2010 3:40:48 AM PDT by cvq3842
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