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Tumbleweed Tiny House Company (Oh No.)
Web Site for Tumbleweed Tiny Houses ^ | Various | Jay Shafer

Posted on 07/21/2010 8:30:00 AM PDT by combat_boots

(I have no connection to this company). My name is Jay Shafer and since 1997 I have been living in houses smaller than some people’s closets. I call the first of my little hand built houses Tumbleweed. My decision to inhabit just 89 square feet arose from some concerns I had about the impact a larger house would have on the environment, and because I do not want to maintain a lot of unused or unusable space. My houses have met all of my domestic needs without demanding much in return. The simple, slower lifestyle my homes have afforded is a luxury for which I am continually grateful.

(Excerpt) Read more at tumbleweedhouses.com ...


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1 posted on 07/21/2010 8:30:02 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

I bet this guy is a chick magnet!


2 posted on 07/21/2010 8:31:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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Doesn’t everyone want to live in a closet? Closets all around!


3 posted on 07/21/2010 8:31:50 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Why not just buy an RV?


4 posted on 07/21/2010 8:32:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: combat_boots

I’m not sure if all of my wifes shoes could fit in that house, let alone everything else...


5 posted on 07/21/2010 8:34:42 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (u)
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To: driftdiver

Or build one?


6 posted on 07/21/2010 8:34:54 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Hang in there, baby! November's comin'...)
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To: Mr. K
I bet this guy is a chick magnet!

I don't know about that.

What kinda straight guy names his house...Tumbleweed?

7 posted on 07/21/2010 8:35:09 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: combat_boots

I could live in a small house on a large piece of land.

But only if I had a large barn/garage/workshop.


8 posted on 07/21/2010 8:36:19 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: driftdiver

I questioned this also. His tiny house looks like a tiny house for a vacation getaway. Can you imagine living in this place full-time?


9 posted on 07/21/2010 8:36:19 AM PDT by mia
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Some of us think tiny houses are really neat.
No need to belittle personal preferences.

See http://tinyhouseblog.com/ among many others.


10 posted on 07/21/2010 8:36:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: combat_boots

More power to him. . .as long as he doesn’t start demanding that everyone live in a house that small.


11 posted on 07/21/2010 8:37:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: combat_boots

Jay Shafer...come out of the closet.


12 posted on 07/21/2010 8:37:59 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: combat_boots

Cute, but could you afford the rent?


13 posted on 07/21/2010 8:39:33 AM PDT by norton
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To: combat_boots
"Doesn’t everyone want to live in a closet?"

Omly those living alternative lifestyles......;-)

14 posted on 07/21/2010 8:40:38 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: combat_boots
This guy is silly . . . .

. . . but we built an architect-designed passive solar house with a little over 800 s.f. heated and cooled. It had a full basement and an unheated solarium with a solar mass (huge concrete cube buried in the ground) on the south side, but the actual living space was just 800 s.f. + or -.

Nice spacious master b.r., big living room, galley kitchen, good sized bath with dressing room. Plenty of closet space on the north side (doubles as insulation).

It was perfect for a couple, plenty of room, but a bit crowded for 3, and when we had our 2nd child we had to sell. Now that our last kid is out of the house I'd happily build another, although I'd probably bump up to around 900 s.f. to get a bigger kitchen.

15 posted on 07/21/2010 8:40:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: combat_boots

He is an environmentalist, and as such is deeply concerned that the world has already reached a point of “peak space”, and soon we will all run out of space.

So unless we stop using all fossil fuels, limit families to only one child by forced abortion, pay international taxes to the UN, redistribute wealth from the wealthy nations to the poorer nations, and have one world government, we will all run out of space.

As such, all living areas must be restricted to a 6’ x 2’ x 2’ box for all humans, toilets must be limited to 1 gallon cans, the only artificial light will be provided by one LED for one hour after dark, food must be restricted to 1200 calories a day with all protein coming from tofu, and all clothing must be made out of recycled paper, including shoes.

Or we’ll run out of space!!!


16 posted on 07/21/2010 8:41:17 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: mia

This is a great house if you are on the road 364 days of the year...


17 posted on 07/21/2010 8:42:06 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: combat_boots

Will the kick about, “small to save the world” ever be applied to government?

Maybe that’s the solution - the entire Federal government has to fit into an 80 square foot building.


18 posted on 07/21/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: driftdiver
Why not just buy an RV?

That was my thought when I saw this on Yahoo a few days ago. He was crowing that you can build one of these contraptions yourself for 20K (materials) and be on the forefront of some great social trend. Well you could get a really nice late model Airstream for less than that with 2x the room, better ergonomics and waaaaay better lighting. And save on your labor. Guess that wouldn't impress the granola eaters.

19 posted on 07/21/2010 8:48:18 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: combat_boots

I want to sing.


20 posted on 07/21/2010 8:49:21 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (George W. Bush was the last conservative democrat)
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To: combat_boots

Sometimes I fantasize about having a small studio apartment, where I can escape from accumulated stuff and other people’s messes and demands.

But small means, oh, about 250 square feet.

These tiny house people are most of them “child-free”. And “partner-free.” Sometimes you do read about a family with one or two children living in 400 square feet and doing it rather ingeniously. More power to them - that’s how our forebears lived, only with a whole lot more children than that.

Now go play outside.


21 posted on 07/21/2010 8:50:15 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: ctdonath2

“No need to belittle personal preferences.”

But it seems he is trying to make himself out to be special. We have more than enough space for everyone. I am not impressed.


22 posted on 07/21/2010 8:51:48 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (Reid: Why , oh why, are they picking on me?)
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To: combat_boots

$38,997 for 65 square feet!!! Get real!


23 posted on 07/21/2010 8:52:43 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: AnAmericanMother

That kind of house really appeals to me. Can you tell us more? Where it was, how well the passive heating cooling worked, architect’s name, pictures?


24 posted on 07/21/2010 8:53:08 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: chrisser
I could live in a small house on a large piece of land. But only if I had a large barn/garage/workshop.

I've got a 2K sq/ft house and it's twice as much as I need. (I live alone.)

If the housing market ever comes back I'm selling my place and either building something like the Tumbleweed (over a large underground bunker) or something like the below pic:


25 posted on 07/21/2010 8:54:15 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: combat_boots
It would be fine to live in Barbara Streisand's closet. Saw her interviews years ago at her home and her closet is just under 5000 sq feet....Same thing with elton John....the hollywood elite have closets bigger than most of our homes and tell us about saving the planet by using less water, toilet paper and electricity....hypocrits all... Can't stand to listen to any of them.....
26 posted on 07/21/2010 8:54:27 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: combat_boots

Since his tiny house is on wheels, and not a permanent structure, I assume he doesn’t pay homeowner’s property taxes on it. Do property taxes work that way in California?


27 posted on 07/21/2010 8:55:01 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Le Chien Rouge

If you click on his picture to see the inside at the end of the video you learn he is recently married and is expecting a child. The have built another tiny home next to his existing one.


28 posted on 07/21/2010 8:57:26 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: cowboyway

That thing is gorgeous!


29 posted on 07/21/2010 8:57:50 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: combat_boots

in the closet in more than one way perhaps?


30 posted on 07/21/2010 8:58:04 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Like your idea about the federal government fitting into an 80 sq foot office....I'd give them a bigger building but demand any law written must not run over 3 pages long. No legalese wording and they meet only 6 months out of the year....having to be in Washington for so long, they have to justify it by making idiot laws than only a lawyer could understand..
31 posted on 07/21/2010 8:59:50 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: combat_boots

There is a guy in Luling, TX that builds these using mostly recycled materials. A little too small and pricey if you ask me. But if you had a small piece of property in the country, it might be doable for a weekend place.

http://www.tinytexashouses.com/index.html


32 posted on 07/21/2010 8:59:51 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: combat_boots
Oh!...Come on now!....The Obama adminstration has much smaller ideas to save the environment!!!
33 posted on 07/21/2010 9:01:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: heartwood

Watched a special last winter about people that live in caves...it was amazing...


34 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:04 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: smokingfrog

83 square feet is barely enough for a decent gunsafe.


35 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: mia

My wife and I moved from a large five bedroom home to a 1000 sq ft condo while we prepare to move permanently to Kentucky. The place, even at a whopping 1000 sq ft, seriously cramped our lifestyle. I have no recording/rehearsal studio. No place to refinish furniture, maintain my bicycle, my car, etc. With the condo we feel like we simply “exist”.

It is like putting our life on hold. There is very little you can do in that space beyond read books and watch TV (and surf the internet).

This is a novelty and nothing more. Still, having one in the backyard would be cool for when guests come. But then, they are only visiting, and for temporary digs it would be fine.


36 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:49 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: chrisser

>>I could live in a small house on a large piece of land.

But only if I had a large barn/garage/workshop.<<

Ha! You beat me to it. When your house is merely the place where you eat and sleep, you don’t need much space.


37 posted on 07/21/2010 9:04:00 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: cowboyway

I sure understand what your saying...I moved from a 2300 sq foot home into a little over 1000 sq feet and that include washer and dryer in the living space not in the basement...had to downsize a lot, but could use more storage space....it was easier to keep the larger home neat and know where everthing was...still have too much STUFF.


38 posted on 07/21/2010 9:06:11 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: RobRoy

I think they are very cute and have used the space efficiently.


39 posted on 07/21/2010 9:07:35 AM PDT by mia
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To: ctdonath2

I actually think it is pretty cool. However, people that live in tiny spaces often do not realize how it actually cramps their lifestyle. I’ve known people that live in permanently parked RV’s in RV parks. Every one I knew lived a very “limited” lifestyle or spent very little time there. They were not very self sufficient because they didn’t have the space to do anything. That about sums it up without going into detail.

If someone uses their home as pretty much just a place to eat and sleep, size isn’t that important. I tried it for a while and had a great time, but it was meant to be temporary. It’s why hotel rooms in resorts are not very big. They don’t need to be. The occupants don’t actually “live” there.


40 posted on 07/21/2010 9:10:18 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: goat granny

You can strap the house to a trailer and take it with you as you as you search for one of those “shovel ready” jobs....


41 posted on 07/21/2010 9:10:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Russ

>>This is a great house if you are on the road 364 days of the year...<<

Yeah, I’m thinking the main character in “Up In The Air”.


42 posted on 07/21/2010 9:12:26 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Poison Pill

The home on my farm in Kentucky cost about $20k. It is a VERY nice place and over 1,000 sq ft.

This place seems expensive. Grossly so.


43 posted on 07/21/2010 9:13:58 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“He is an environmentalist, and as such is deeply concerned that the world has already reached a point of “peak space”, and soon we will all run out of space.”

You can see all the houses around him crowding him in on the website.


44 posted on 07/21/2010 9:17:01 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: heartwood
It was built in 1981, designed by Kenneth Johnson AIA. Unfortunately he retired and moved out of town back in the late 80s, and we've lost touch. The AIA hasn't got a current address for him.

House is located in Atlanta, GA, in the Collier Heights area, just off I-75.

The passive solar definitely works, plus you don't have all the fiddly maintenance issues you do with solar cells, solar water heaters, etc. Conventional gas furnace/electric AC, gas water heater, electric oven and gas cooktop. Our utility bills were basically nonexistent, in the spring and fall we might pay $50/month total, and in the dead of a real cold winter or a broiling August we sometimes broke $100 and were really annoyed. :-D

The main things that make the passive solar work are:

Oriented slightly east of south. House is a trapezoid with the longest side oriented SSE.

No windows on north side, with closets, etc. against north wall. Outside doors have vestibules to keep cold or heat out (we called them the "cat locks" as they also kept the cats from escaping). Only one window on the west and one on the east. South wall is essentially glass.

The overhang is calculated for the latitude, so that the south windows are in shade after the spring equinox until the fall equinox. Summer sun stays out, winter sun comes in.

Super-insulated, framed up with 2x8s with conventional fiberglass batts and additional foam insulating board on the outside. Roof is 2x12s. All voids filled with foam. Triple pane windows. Huge attic vent fan so that you can exchange out stale air on temperate days. Big bath and kitchen fans so that moisture doesn't get trapped in the house.

Dug into the ground so that earth does some of the insulating job (well designed drainage and best available waterproofing is a must any time your house is in the ground).

Unfortunately I haven't got any pictures on line. We sold the house back in the early 90s.

45 posted on 07/21/2010 9:18:24 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: goat granny
It would be fine to live in Barbara Streisand's closet.

Yeah, we all want to see her as she steps out of the shower and decides what to wear.

Need.

Eye.

Bleach.

46 posted on 07/21/2010 9:20:24 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mia

>>I think they are very cute and have used the space efficiently.<<

I agree. When I say they are a novelty, what I mean is that there is a market for this sort of thing, just like there is a market for model railroads. It’s just not a big one. It is a novelty.

Anyone that has tried to live in a REALLY cramped space for an extended period knows what I am talking about. It is very much like putting your life on hold. When you are on vacation, you ARE putting your life on hold, so living out of a tiny place is completely acceptable.

Month two in this place could get “interesting” for more than one person. If I was a writer this place would be a great “getaway” though. But most people have more than that going on.


47 posted on 07/21/2010 9:23:29 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: AnAmericanMother

>>Our utility bills were basically nonexistent, in the spring and fall we might pay $50/month total, and in the dead of a real cold winter or a broiling August we sometimes broke $100 and were really annoyed.<<

Those two sentences contradict each other. I consider $100 a month for a small place, even in the dead of winter, to be a lot. My condo is over 1000 sq ft and the bill is around $60 in the dead of winter.


48 posted on 07/21/2010 9:26:43 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You got that right! I need that much space just for my ammo stash and a few basic SHTF supplies.


49 posted on 07/21/2010 9:29:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: cowboyway

What a great barn.

I really like the raised center. Having just replaced my gutters, I realized I hate being up higher than about 10 feet, but I think I could go up on that place and repair the roof without too much trouble.

I need to find a barn that incorporates a greenhouse for my wife - then we’d both be happy.


50 posted on 07/21/2010 9:30:25 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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