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David Frum: Shirley Sherrod and the shame of conservative media
The Week ^ | 07/21/2010 | David Frum

Posted on 07/21/2010 11:00:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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I know Frum is really a Democrat, but lets pretend he is a Republican.

When is the last time a Democrat criticized the huge LeftMedia? We constantly have right wing poseurs criticizing the tiny portion of the media that leans Right.


61 posted on 07/21/2010 12:09:09 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SeekAndFind
You want to see media bias in action? Okay — look at the conservative media reaction to the firing of Shirley Sherrod.

Yes, let's look at -- conservatives immediately cleared her name after it was obvious her comments had been taken out-of-context.

Has this CINO even commented on the MSM's refusal to cover the Justice Department's refusal to prosecute the New Black Panthers? Has he criticized it or the NAACP for using false accusations of racism against the Tea Party Movement? If not, Frum has no credibility.

62 posted on 07/21/2010 12:16:08 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: UCANSEE2

The full video would NEVER redeem a white person. Also, there would be plans for a Congressional hearing and criminal prosecution.

Breitbart simply reported the problem. He did good!


63 posted on 07/21/2010 12:19:57 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The video of Sherrod’s entire speech to the NAACP can be found here : http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/video_sherrod/"

Nope. The NAACP edited *that* video at the 21 minute mark.

64 posted on 07/21/2010 12:31:16 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mr. Fwum? No, “Mr. Danielle Steele”. A nothing desperate for an identity other than that of “the husband of the authoress of hundreds of ‘bodice ripper’ novels”.


65 posted on 07/21/2010 1:01:39 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Vigilanteman

Well, are we supposed to hold some guy posting a youtube video to his web site to the same standards as a major news organization doing two month’s worth of research to fake documents to nail a President?

Is there any evidence that Brietbart deliberately altered the video to make a point that was invalid? I don’t think so. His video illustrated the point he was making. Yes, it also gave a lot of people the supposedly wrong impression, but that wasn’t what he was pushing, so is it really his fault, and something he would need to be disciplined for?

Frum is an idiot. All Brietbart COULD do to the woman is post a video of her. It was people in POWER who harmed her — the NAACP and the Administration.

I do hope at least though that this incident will cool the jets of the intermitably short-fused here at FR, who are always jumping at the latest thing and running full-throttle without facts or introspection.

Check, double-check. If something looks “too good to be true”, check the source, think about how it might be biased, and how that bias might effect how you see it. Look for alternative explanations, try to find contrary evidence.

See if the story has secondary sources; check the links to see that they say what you are told, and if it’s about a story, try google to get the actual news article of the story from when it first happened.

And always remember that everybody is biased. People interpret things as they want to see them. Trust your own eyes, but not necessarily how you interpret what you are seeing. It is much better to have an iron-clad attack against your enemy tomorrow, than a half-assed attempt today that backfires.


66 posted on 07/21/2010 1:35:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s the really shocking part of this Frum piece and the liberal media response.

Every night the news shows a 10-second snippet of something. And it almost always is something that makes conservatives look bad.

So I guess now we have a right to call for those news organizations to be punished because they didn’t show the entire hour of a hearing, where we would see that the person they are quoting said a lot of other things which mitigate the quote they have given us?


67 posted on 07/21/2010 1:41:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; UCANSEE2
Yep. Spot on. See post #54, which sums it up even more concisely than your post.

After reviewing the whole thread and the video, I've come to the conclusion that Breitbart was not even trying to discredit Sherrod, he was simply showing the racism of the NAACP.

Everyone should have done the same before jumping on the smack down Breitbart bandwagon. Frum is an idiot. But we all knew that, didn't we?

68 posted on 07/21/2010 1:45:23 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“It was the audience reaction, stupid!”

That was the comment that Medved would not allow on his show today when he was pointing shame at conservatives at the same time he was shaming the Obama admin for its reaction.

Sherrod may very well have reformed, but her later message was probably lost on the racists in her NAACP audience.

Medved DID not entertain your observation, the typical closeted agit-prop Leftist that he is.


69 posted on 07/21/2010 1:46:24 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: riri

I can not even begin to understand how the argument can be made that this monologue was taken out of context? Did she say “just kidding” at the end? I can’t imagine what else was said that made everything else she said OK.


70 posted on 07/21/2010 1:50:27 PM PDT by riri
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Oh, and one more thing.

When the NAACP censored Sherrod after the video came out, it was probably to pay her back for having had the effrontery of telling them to reform like herself. The audience that cheered at that point in her story where she said she didn’t help the white man as much as she could have was probably pissed that she tripped them up. Racists are vindictive devils.


71 posted on 07/21/2010 1:52:35 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Vigilanteman
After reviewing the whole thread and the video, I've come to the conclusion that Breitbart was not even trying to discredit Sherrod, he was simply showing the racism of the NAACP.

Exactly!

72 posted on 07/21/2010 2:51:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind
I just found out David Brock had been a closet (and is now an open) queer.

Do you know if David Frum has been accused of going "Brockback Mountain" as well...?

Cheers!

73 posted on 07/21/2010 11:28:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kbennkc
Frum is an autofellator.

Metaphorically, of course.

Cheers!

74 posted on 07/21/2010 11:30:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: riri
I can not even begin to understand how the argument can be made that this monologue was taken out of context? Did she say “just kidding” at the end?

No, she said that she learned that whites could be victims too, and that she needed to change her own attitude toward this particular white farmer and poor whites in general. She said that she came to the farmer's aid to prevent his farm from being foreclosed, after his lawyer failed him.

That may sound like it exculpates her, but viewed in the context of the entire video, she seems as far from "post racial" as one can get. She has just traded some of her racial bigotry for class bigotry. If it were possible to remove the words "white," "black," "rich," and "poor" from Sherrod's brain, I think she would short circuit. The woman's entire being seems devoted to grievance. She sees everything through the prisms of race and class. Victimhood is a moral achievement. Black=good, poor=good, rich=evil. Whites may not necessarily be evil, but let's not forget that Southern whites routinely murdered blacks for no reason and these crimes were routinely ignored by racist white law enforcement. And so on. In Sherrod's world there is no shared humanity that unites whites and blacks unless the whites are poor.

I was interested in the crowd's reaction to her speech, thinking it would be a better measure of the NAACP's racism than the views of one speaker. Sherrod gave the crowd plenty of chances to show racial bigotry, but with one possible exception I did not see it. Still, I don't know what the NAACP crowd thought of her warped, depressing, obsessive mindset.

75 posted on 07/22/2010 1:05:24 AM PDT by TChad
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To: SeekAndFind

If she was speaking at the NAACP, she is a racist.


76 posted on 07/22/2010 1:10:26 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: TChad

Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. I wasn’t seeing it in that exact light. Probably because I was so blown away by phrases like, “his own kind” and I hadn’t heard the entire tape. I still do not know what to make of it. I do know, however, that it looks like it has been neutralized by the MSM.


77 posted on 07/22/2010 6:28:24 AM PDT by riri
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To: grey_whiskers
Do you know if David Frum has been accused of going "Brockback Mountain" as well...?

David Brock, Andrew Sullivan and ( now maybe ) David Frum... I begin to notice a pattern here -- they all have the same "persuasion" and they are all "suspects" as conservatives.
78 posted on 07/22/2010 7:00:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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