if i have to pay a MANS wage for a job, there are enough men out of work to hire a MAN, not some kid...
Posted on 07/21/2010 7:11:04 PM PDT by george76
Several factors have aligned to hurt what was once a vibrant and reliable labor market, experts say. In some cases, unemployed older Americans or illegal immigrants have taken the jobs, while an increase in the minimum wage has made it too expensive for some employers to hire teens.
Small says that among a group of 25 friends, only one has found consistent work for the summer... In construction and landscaping, illegal immigrants have pushed teens out of jobs,
“It’s too expensive for us to hire teens that don’t have experience,” said Karin Devencenzi... also blames the minimum wage. At $8.40 an hour, Oregon has one of the highest minimum wages in the country.
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Hiring illegal aliens instead of American kids. Nice.
Hope & change.
In construction and landscaping, illegal immigrants have pushed teens out of jobs...
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News flash for ya, Bucky. It ain’t just teens that have been pushed out of jobs.
If they’d just have a “training wage” for kids under the age of 18 that is 2 or 3 dollars less than the minimum wage, this wouldn’t be a problem.
When I was a teenager, more years ago than I’d like to admit, construction jobs were available in the summertime. I worked every year in the construction business from the time I was 16 until I finished college at 23. I paid almost half of my college expenses by working construction and other jobs. Today college kids cannot get this work because it’s reserved for illegal immigrants (and some not so illegal). I think this is pathetic. These kids will graduate with higher debt than what I did. I paid off my debt in less than 2 years (lived at home) and I was free as a bird. This is a despicable situation where we hire illegal immigrants rather than have our young do this work. I’m glad I grew up in a better time.
Good idea, gator!
>>landscaping, illegal immigrants have pushed teens out of jobs<<
Not really true. An aggressive teenager with the right gear can make plenty mowing lawns. Hell, I did OK 25 years ago and I didn’t even have all the equipment. People around here would drop their mowing crew in a heartbeat for a $5 cut IF they knew the teen was worthwhile.
I want to secure borders and deport everyone, but let’s not make excuses for lazy teens.
if i have to pay a MANS wage for a job, there are enough men out of work to hire a MAN, not some kid...
On my trips to S. California, I noticed that the car washes, gas stations, and any manual labor jobs - all Mexicans, and mostly illegal.
In my small town in PA - the car washes, gas stations, landscaping jobs - are filled with local college and high school kids making a few bucks for the summer.
Don’t tell me these are jobs Americans don’t want!!
With Obama in the whitehouse,they had better get used to it.
When the Democratic Party took control of both houses of Congress following the 2006 congressional elections, it promised to increase the federal wage to $7.25/hr. in its "first 100 hours" on the floor. On January 10, 2007, the House did so through the passage of H.R. 2 ..... which would raise the wage to $7.25,...
And now the price we paid for that "first 100 hours"
My 21 & 19 yo daughters both found work this summer...1 FT and the other PT and there was babysitting to do as well! The youngest also cuts grass on our 2 acres in the summer....for that she gets to belong to a private pool
If the Usurper gets his way, many teenagers are going to be unemployed for LIFE!
Stupid is supposed to hurt.
I have had no less than 12 men ask if they could cut my grass in the past month.
That’s right, full grown men in their 30’s
It’s bad out there.
Howz that hopin change doing for you kids?
Think this is bad, most law school students did not find summer associate positions this summer which means they probably aren’t going to find a job when they graduate. Many of those who dod find a job will likely deferred 9-18 months after graduating before they get to start work.
From groundskeepers to bartenders, to the ones working the Taco Bell franchise there, to traffic flow to the ones that pick the beer bottles out of the port-a-johns, every single last one of them is a local white young adult.
It really gives me hope.
See you still live in America. The rest of America is no longer like small town PA.
Employers like illegals because they are cheap, work like dogs and never complain. I am not saying overpay Americans but lots of employers like slavery-Lite by employing illegals.
My niece is teaching horseback riding to kids. She has over 40 students, and is raking in the dough.
No illegal aliens in this field!
At 15 I had a trailer behind my bicycle that carried a mower, edger, can and bags of grass. Pedalled around my neighborhood to all my clients and had lots of extra money in HS. Hard work but I could buy cool stuff.
Unlike now. Change=unemployed.
And if you aren't working, how can you be a "worker?"
I'm just asking comrades.
My son’s mowing and weed whipping the neighbor’s lawn this summer for $12.00 an hour. At two hours every five days he’s earning some serious cash for a 13 year old.
There should be no wage controls, period. I started fast food making only $3.15 an hour - but it gave me much-needed customer service and cash handling skills.
I wanted to hire a teenager friend of my son’s to do some work for me in my company. 15 years old. The amount of paperwork to deal with, liability, workermen’s comp, etc. is just not worth it to me.
I suppose I could stop by Home Depot to hire an illegal and be done with it. I imagine that is part of what drives some folks to do that so they don’t have to follow all (any?) of the very cumbersome rules and regulations that the State and Feds have.
They do 20-25 bucks a yard in my neighborhood. We dont have big yards. It takes me 40 minutes with a push mower.
Only rich East Coast elitist assholes believe that. Of course, many are waiting for their unemployment to run out before accepting a job where they actually have to work.
I live at the Jersey shore. Teenagers here used to work on the boardwalk. For many years now only a few get jobs because the owners import workers from other countries. They supply housing & food, what they pay I don’t know. In return they get workers who show up on time & are thrilled to be in the USA. Plus they are polite & look clean cut. I don’t see why kids can’t get jobs if they are willing to babysit or take jobs they really don’t want to do. I think it depends on how bad you need money.
Sounds good maybe they will go get a real job.
I got 3 bucks a yard back in the day. That was 6 burgers according to fast-food economics.
Guess what...my heart pumps purple piss for them...let them go and get honest work for awhile. We have a malignant surplus of liars --er--lawyers--- as it is.
Change? HA!
Hope? bwahahahaha
I just wish the next time I went to a fast food joint someone there could speak english!
When the Dems started jacking up the minimum wage rate in the last few years I just knew it would be counter-productive. They kept hawking that old tired moniker of a ‘living wage’. Crapola—its just entry level jobs that kids need to make a few bucks for summer or PT work. This reduced employment instead of creating jobs. Typical demoRat losers!
five bucks doesn’t cover your gas anymore!
Yeh—i hate that too. Plus they screw up the orders so often too. If you go through drive-thru make sure you check that they gave you your complete order before driving off.
Give me American kids anyday at fast food places.
Bingo. Motivation is everything. I had a young man in my office a year or so ago, who really wanted a special wristwatch that cost over a hundred dollars. I don't know what was so special, but then I'm no teenager any more.
He complained he couldn't find as job, even though he lived in a prosperous middleclass suburb. I knew he lived in a condo development so I asked him, what if you go around to all your neighbors and offer to wash their cars, in place, only using their water, for twenty bucks. Tell them they won't have to waste their time at the car wash ever again.
He did, and had more business than he could handle. There is no shortage of work, if you want to work.
I won't tell him that. LOL Plus, they're probably not 13. It's pretty good money here in the upper midwest.
Here in Hollywood, at Universal Studios, from what I heard from my neighbor who works there...Hispanic kids are pissed off at the large amount of white kids who got the speaking role jobs at the attractions who were not there by seniority from last year. The white kids are pissed off at the hispanic kids who are bitching about their jobs, and accdg to my source are illegals.
Just takes a little creativity & willingness. Ours have done yard work, assisting rentors to clear out a garage, catered a men’s group meeting for a church, put on a “camp” for an 11-y/o displaced friend two separate weekends (fishing for dollars), assistant-teaching a 3-day Logic camp for a homeschoolers’ conference...
Sadly I've seen teens make money selling pot. They have nice cars, dress well & don't care if you know what they're doing. We have a few teen dealers right here in my neighborhood. We even have state troopers who live here & the kids just don't care. It amazes me.
My daughter is only 10 months old and already started with a summer job.
Now she has 70 euros in the bank.
LOL! Maybe the white kids get to speak because they speak English.
I do not have TV anymore because of the propaganda. Avoiding all movies except a non lib Brit cast like the two Batman movies. Michael Caine is quietly pro-Tory though Cameron is no Thatcher, Gary Oldman probably a closet Repub and Bale hated his stupid step mother Steinem.
I was stuck on a plane and the seta in front had a Steve Carrel movie. He is pretty talented. It seems like everything he touches turns to gold.
only 10 months old and already started with a summer job...
She started earlier than me. Good start.
My buddies and I would get a nickle a bale hauling alfalfa out of the fields when we were in High School. I did it for my dad for free!!:)
I got 2 cents a bale when I was 13. These were 3000 bale farms. That was load and store in the barn.
The person in front was watching a film about windower from NJ who falls for his brother’s girlfriend. He just uses facial mannerisms and draws people in. No slpstick comedy like a Jim Carrey.
He seems like a decent guy and he appears to be a hot property in Hollywood.
Yer jest a young whippersnapper, ain't cha! Fast food paid $1.85 an hour when I started, and I had to walk uphill in the snow to work.
My son graduated this year and was looking for work to keep him busy until he leaves for college in the fall. He'd been trying all year to get on at Dairy Queen, Steak and Shake, local restaurants -- nothing. Then he got a call from Vector Marketing and he started selling Cutco knives. He loves it. He works his tail off from 7:00 AM til 8:00 PM setting up demos and calling contacts to get appointments to show his products.
According to him, the best part is that he updated his Facebook page to read "Employment: Weapons Specialist."
5 bucks? Are you kidding?
5 bucks is worth about 1 dollar in the real world...
To make a whole 50 bucks, a young person would have to mow 10 freaking lawns...
lol...
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