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Augusta State Univ to Counseling Student: Change [Christian] Beliefs or Get Out
LifeSiteNews.com -- Your Life, Family, and Culture Outpost ^ | Thursday July 22, 2010

Posted on 07/22/2010 1:49:10 PM PDT by topher

Thursday July 22, 2010


Augusta State Univ. to Counseling Student: Change Beliefs or Get Out

AUGUSTA, Georgia, July 22, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) filed suit against Augusta State University Wednesday on behalf of a counseling student who was allegedly told that her Christian beliefs are unethical and incompatible with the prevailing views of the counseling profession. The student, Jennifer Keeton, says she has been told to stop communicating her beliefs and that she must undergo "training" to accept homosexuality in order to graduate from the counseling program.

Augusta State ordered Keeton to undergo a re-education plan, in which she must attend “diversity sensitivity training,” complete additional remedial reading, and write papers to describe their impact on her beliefs. If she does not change her beliefs or agree to the plan, the university says it will expel her from the Counselor Education Program.

“A public university student shouldn’t be threatened with expulsion for being a Christian and refusing to publicly renounce her faith, but that’s exactly what’s happening here. Simply put, the university is imposing thought reform,” said ADF Senior Counsel David French.

“Abandoning one’s own religious beliefs should not be a precondition at a public university for obtaining a degree. This type of leftist zero-tolerance policy is in place at far too many universities, and it must stop."

Keeton, 24, is pursuing her master’s degree in counseling at Augusta State. Lawyers say that after her professors learned of her biblical beliefs, specifically her views on homosexual conduct, the school imposed the re-education plan. Keeton says she never denigrated anyone in communicating her beliefs but merely stated factually what they were in appropriate contexts.

The plan, according to ADF lawyers, assails Keeton’s beliefs as inconsistent with the counseling profession and expresses suspicion over “Jen’s ability to be a multiculturally competent counselor, particularly with regard to working with gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and queer/questioning (GLBTQ) populations.” They say the plan requires her to take steps to change her beliefs through additional assignments and additional “diversity sensitivity training" and to “work to increase exposure and interactions with gay populations. One such activity could be attending the Gay Pride Parade in Augusta.”

Each month, Keeton is allegedly required to complete a report on how the “remediation” assignments have influenced her beliefs so that faculty can “decide the appropriateness of her continuation in the counseling program.” Lawyers say the plan concludes by noting that “failure to complete all elements of the remediation plan will result in dismissal from the Counselor Education Program.”

In an ADF video, Keeton said that, “While I want to stay in the school counseling program, I know that I can't honestly complete the remediation plan knowing that I would have to alter my beliefs." "I'm not willing to, and I know I can't, change my Biblical views," she said.

ADF attorneys filed the complaint and a motion for preliminary injunction in Keeton v. Anderson-Wiley with the U.S. District Court for the District of Georgia.

ADF is currently litigating a similar case involving a counseling student at Eastern Michigan University and successfully resolved a case at Missouri State University. Also in litigation is a case involving a Georgia counselor fired by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention because she would not agree to affirm homosexual behavior as morally acceptable.

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It is okay to have perverted beliefs, but not Christian beliefs.
1 posted on 07/22/2010 1:49:14 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher

Somebody’s gonna get RICH...!


2 posted on 07/22/2010 1:52:33 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: topher

The left is always hypocritical no matter what. They push diversity, but that diversity had better not include a servant of the Most High God.

Do we see who’s running this show? Can we see the horns? He’s a god wannabe and can’t stand the threat of the Real God!


3 posted on 07/22/2010 1:53:24 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: topher

Worse. They cannot ask her to change her religion, and they know it. So what the school is advocating is, clearly, Orwellian double-think, the ability to hold two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accept both of them. That is a recipe for mental illness.


4 posted on 07/22/2010 1:53:59 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: US Navy Vet

“ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?!” - Jay Robinson as Caligula in The Robe

Now he’s running a college.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 1:54:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: topher

Evil is afoot in all of our schools. Parents be aware of what your children are being subjected to in their schools.


6 posted on 07/22/2010 1:54:21 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: topher

We must pretend that abnormality is normal and we must pretend that mental illness is not a mental illness to be a counselor.

/makes sense not


7 posted on 07/22/2010 1:55:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: topher

Counseling appears to be one of those professions requiring little (if any) intellect anyway.

Why not replace all those “counselors” with a voice recognition machine hooked to a robot face?

The machine’ll have much more of an IQ than your typical “counselor”.

Another degree worth its weight in cr*p...er Obamas.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 1:57:43 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: topher

We need to use the same Gestapo tactics that the hard left uses. Boycott, picket, publicize, report to government licensing agencies, call the local and national press, and litigate to the hilt. Simply venting our anger is pointless!


9 posted on 07/22/2010 1:59:20 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: topher

It is time for the University of Ga Regents to can this program and send its faculty on a job hunt. Academic freedom for me but not for Thee.


10 posted on 07/22/2010 2:00:52 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: topher

One wonders how her professors would react if she announced that she had converted to Islam and that she now believes that homosexuals should be executed by stoning.


11 posted on 07/22/2010 2:01:23 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: topher
There are 2 people of good standing in my church who are counselors. Christian counseling does a whole lot of good.
12 posted on 07/22/2010 2:02:01 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: topher

Is there a way for us to let her know of our prayers and support?


13 posted on 07/22/2010 2:02:23 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: topher

Godly Christian young lady. God will bless her! I pray for her!


14 posted on 07/22/2010 2:05:22 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: topher

Re-education camps? Where have I heard that before?


15 posted on 07/22/2010 2:07:34 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: topher

Seems to me that if she feels she can’t counsel gays, she wouldn’t take them, and that she would be perfectly competent to counsel straights. that’s assuming, of course, that the university’s objections made any sense to begin with. Which they don’t


16 posted on 07/22/2010 2:11:40 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: rawhide

I know I shouldn’t ask this, but where the hell are the elected state representatives on this issue? And who funds this state reformatory?


17 posted on 07/22/2010 2:13:27 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Da Coyote

You sound as ignorant and closed-minded as the administrators at Augusta State.


18 posted on 07/22/2010 2:13:45 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: topher

What galls these creeps the most are the results: Genuinely embracing Christianity has righted far more screwed up lives than all the modern secular humanist counseling out there.


19 posted on 07/22/2010 2:14:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: topher

Well... to be fair, she is in a secular environment and should couch her counseling devoid of her faith.

If she wants to be a counselor for people seeking help from professionals who share the same faith then she should seek a job there.

There is a place for witnessing and there is a place for counseling. Sometimes they meet in the same place but in a secular setting it really would be inappropriate for a counselor to couch her practice, advice or therapy with “her qualifiers”.


20 posted on 07/22/2010 2:29:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Ooops.... and the school has no right to “re-educate” her or force her to accept a new belief.

They can require to abstain from “preaching” but demanding a change in belief and discussing how her re-education is going is way overboard.


21 posted on 07/22/2010 2:31:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Well... to be fair, she is in a secular environment and should couch her counseling devoid of her faith.

First, she is not counseling anyone, she is in training to be a counselor. Even people who want to be Christian counselors need training, right?

Second, there is no evidence she was witnessing. The article appears to show that she answered questions about her beliefs as it pertains to homosexuality, not that she was counseling homosexuals and trying to convert them.

Bottom line, you post makes a lot of assumptions not supported by the story.

22 posted on 07/22/2010 2:53:47 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Vendome
Well... to be fair, she is in a secular environment and should couch her counseling devoid of her faith.

Apparently she did - This is a Masters program - until the issue of counseling homosexuals arose and she could not simply pretend she approved of the practice without lying.

If she wants to be a counselor for people seeking help from professionals who share the same faith then she should seek a job there.

She probably planned to do just that but she needs her degrees, first. The school is effectively denying her that unless she pretends to approve of homosexual behavior and 'counsel' homosexuals accordingly, which she cannot do in good conscience.

There is a place for witnessing and there is a place for counseling. Sometimes they meet in the same place but in a secular setting it really would be inappropriate for a counselor to couch her practice, advice or therapy with “her qualifiers”.

She wasn't 'witnessing'. She simply cannot pretend to approve of homosexual behavior and the school refuses to accept her position and insists she be 're-educated'. Granted, it appears to be a stalemate situation but the school is frighteningly heavy-handed in it's strict requirement that she accept homosexual behavior as 'normal', when it clearly is not. I hope she wins the suit.

23 posted on 07/22/2010 3:02:15 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: RoadTest

>> The left is always hypocritical no matter what.

To be hypocritical, I would expect some valuable relationship to support the distinction of hypocrisy. To be always hypocritical implies the elimination of any valuable relationship.

The Left is not out to maintain a compatible set of values with you - it wants to crush you. The Left is not hypocritical, the Left is antithetical.


24 posted on 07/22/2010 3:23:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Jim Scott

They really really want to export her and weaken the Christian programs that take on counsellors.


25 posted on 07/22/2010 3:57:24 PM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: Tzimisce

How far we’ve come, that the term can be used freely now, since we’re so “tolerant” of everything except Christianity. I wonder if we’re at the point yet where we could talk about gas chambers so openly.


26 posted on 07/22/2010 4:04:32 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Gene Eric

hypocritical, antiethical. The two are hardly mutually exclusive, and the Left is both, plus some other bad things.


27 posted on 07/22/2010 4:31:51 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: chesley

>> The two are hardly mutually exclusive

As the terms are unrelated, I wouldn’t disagree.

To make my point, I wouldn’t call Hitler a hypocrite, but his character is the antithesis of all that is good.


28 posted on 07/22/2010 5:13:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; WKB; greyfoxx39; Clintonfatigued; Sopater; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; ...

Not public school, K-12, but of interest to the vast numbers of religious people out there who are looking at college with their kids.


29 posted on 07/22/2010 5:35:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: topher

**“A public university student shouldn’t be threatened with expulsion for being a Christian and refusing to publicly renounce her faith, but that’s exactly what’s happening here. Simply put, the university is imposing thought reform,” said ADF Senior Counsel David French. **

Sounds like persecution of Christians to me.


30 posted on 07/22/2010 5:37:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

ARTH?


31 posted on 07/22/2010 5:39:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tzimisce
Re-education camps? Where have I heard that before?

That does kind of grab one's attention.


32 posted on 07/22/2010 5:42:35 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: topher

This poor girl certainly has her house in order...not so much the people who are pushing her around. I have had it up to here with militant gays and their cheering sections of straight folk who want to seem “tolerant”.

We have even lost large chunks of our language to these fools.

Gay-used in Gone with the Wind-used to mean happy, fine time

Queen- used to mean royalty.

tranny- used to be shorthand for transmission

queer- used to mean odd.

fag- used to mean a cigarette in the UK.

And even more scary is this phrase that is all their own: Second generation gay. It means a gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender or questioning person with at least one LGBTQ parents.

I am hoping that FL continues to ban gay adoption based on the paragraph above, but who knows. We are going the way of old Rome in a hurry. Kids are encouraged to explore these days which is sick. Girls kissing girls is now sexy and ok. That never happened in my day. Guys were glad to get to second base. Third base and home runs were for couples who had been together for a while.

Lets face it, if all bets are off and everything is ok teenage hormones are going to send kids off in all sorts of direction. This young lady who takes the Bible seriously and follows Christian teachings is in for a lot more tests. Please pray for her.


33 posted on 07/22/2010 5:45:57 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: topher

bttt


34 posted on 07/22/2010 6:17:02 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Steelfish
"We need to use the same Gestapo tactics that the hard left uses. Boycott, picket, publicize, report to government licensing agencies, call the local and national press, and litigate to the hilt. Simply venting our anger is pointless!

No need for that.....The Georgia legislature can simply defund Augusta State, since they are unwilling to serve the public.

35 posted on 07/22/2010 6:28:49 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: lovesdogs

When you’re with the Flintstones,
have a yabba dabba doo time,
a dabba doo time,
we’ll have a gay old time.


36 posted on 07/22/2010 6:36:31 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: RoadTest

Oh yeah... the horns are visible and twitching visibly.

May the Lord Jesus protect us from the vermin running our institutions of learning and govt.


37 posted on 07/22/2010 7:12:30 PM PDT by eleni121 (But now, he that has a moneybag take it; without a sword let him sell his garment, and buy one.)
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To: cookcounty

Except our state and national legislatures don’t do anything “simply” unless there is a torrent of opposition and yes, street marches.


38 posted on 07/22/2010 7:17:00 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Salvation

I informally pinged the list, which is why you got it.

It sort of doesn’t really quite qualify as ARTH, as it’s not K-12 public school and is not another reason to homeschool, but stuff like this is very useful information because of so many people looking at colleges with their kids.


39 posted on 07/22/2010 7:52:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: La Lydia

>>So what the school is advocating is, clearly, Orwellian double-think, the ability to hold two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accept both of them.

My first reaction on reading this was “Ah! Thoughtcrime! Doubleplusungood! Off to re-education camp!”


40 posted on 07/22/2010 8:07:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Salvation

They are doing nothing here except reiterating the positions of the American Counseling Association, the American Social Worker Association, The American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association and numerous Leftist Churches.


41 posted on 07/22/2010 8:41:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The Acting President....is an incompetent puppet of Soros.)
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To: Fiji Hill
One wonders how her professors would react if she announced that she had converted to Islam and that she now believes that homosexuals should be executed by stoning.

Indeed, one does wonder...

the infowarrior

42 posted on 07/22/2010 9:12:33 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: metmom

Thanks for your info. So appropriate when choosing a college.


43 posted on 07/22/2010 9:54:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: topher; All
The Augusta State University "Re-Educators ...

"The beatings will continue until morale improves ..."

44 posted on 07/22/2010 11:02:04 PM PDT by Lmo56 (</i><p>)
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To: Vigilanteman
What galls these creeps the most are the results: Genuinely embracing Christianity has righted far more screwed up lives than all the modern secular humanist counseling out there.

You know, I hadn't ever thought of that, but you're probably right.

45 posted on 07/23/2010 12:58:15 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: topher

Sue the effers down to their panties and shoelaces.


46 posted on 07/23/2010 1:09:04 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: topher
There are more “Queer Studies” programs coming out and a bunch of state universities here in the Midwest.

It was only a few years ago that calling someone a “queer” was considered derogatory. Bizarre.

47 posted on 07/23/2010 1:49:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (The NAACP is a bunch of cracker-hating bigots and I condemn the NAACP for being a racist element.)
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To: Gene Eric

“The Left is not out to maintain a compatible set of values with you - it wants to crush you. The Left is not hypocritical, the Left is antithetical.”

I meant they say one thing and do the opposite. Isn’t that hypocrisy?


48 posted on 07/23/2010 3:41:32 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: lastchance
Contact LifeSiteNews.com -- they would know how to contact her...

Here is their contact webpage:

Contact Webpage for LifeSiteNews.com

They are a small organization, so I believe they discourage direct emails...

They do have a contact form to fill out...

49 posted on 07/23/2010 3:45:19 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

This is a ‘State’ university? They ought to lose ALL state financial support over this. The perps in the school Administration should be fired and held responsible for monitary damages.


50 posted on 07/23/2010 3:52:07 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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