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Arizona Cops Not Happy With J.D. Hayworth Over Paul Babeu Comments (Attack backfired)
Phoenix New Times ^ | Jul. 22 2010 | James King

Posted on 07/22/2010 6:55:18 PM PDT by tlb

J.D. Hayworth's criticism of John McCain over a TV ad featuring Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu seems to have backfired.

Since calling on McCain to pull the ad because Babeu called in to a white-supremacist radio show -- apparently without knowing it was a show for racists -- Hayworth's now taking his lumps from Arizona lawmen defending the sheriff.

This afternoon, the Arizona Fraternal Order of Police put out a press release calling on Hayworth to retract his comments about Babeu and demanding an apology.

"We're about to enforce SB1070, and the White House doesn't trust Arizona Peace Officers to enforce the law without racially profiling," says Sergeant John Ortolano, president of the AFOP. "It is unfortunate that J.D. Hayworth has agreed and now wrongly attacked Sheriff Paul Babeu."

"David Duke, Paul Babeu, John McCain -- certainly the senior senator from Arizona does not want to be at that party."

The AFOP says the comments crossed a line.

"The former congressman should know better than to attack law enforcement for political gain, and he needs to retract his statements and apologize to the Sheriff," Ortolano continues.

We contacted Hayworth's campaign to see if he had any plans to apologize. Nobody's gotten back to us yet.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: babeu; belongsinbloggers; blunder; hayworth; police
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Difficult to hold yourself out as the law and order candidate when the police themselves suggest you are a clueless fool.
1 posted on 07/22/2010 6:55:23 PM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

Does this mean the last hope of dislodging McCain is shot in his own foot?


2 posted on 07/22/2010 6:58:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: tlb

JD shoots himself in the foot!
I will vote for him, because he is not Juan, but not because he has run a good campaign.
I don’t believe he is a RINO or potential RINO (finger crossed)


3 posted on 07/22/2010 6:59:52 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

Good grief, he’s not even close to being a RINO. He has a 98% ACU rating.


4 posted on 07/22/2010 7:01:12 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: tlb

I don’t know much but I do know that it’s not uncommon for a union’s members to disagree with the leadership. I wonder how many rank and file cops share the critique of Hayworth and are going to vote for him over McShame.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 7:04:11 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: tlb

So, is this ‘The Political Cesspool Radio Program’ a “white-supremacist radio show”?


6 posted on 07/22/2010 7:05:12 PM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "It's going to take a while for us to dig ourselves out of this hole.'')
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To: tlb

Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one.


7 posted on 07/22/2010 7:13:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: kanawa

Maybe it depends on which Jouno-list you consult.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 7:14:31 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: kanawa
“So, is this ‘The Political Cesspool Radio Program’ a “white-supremacist radio show”?”

That's what I want to know. Seems like the sheriff should have known, if it really is a “white-supremacist radio show”.

9 posted on 07/22/2010 7:17:17 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: J Edgar
Why did JD even go there in the first place. You got racism dominating the news this summer - does he think he'll get a free pass from the Left on this? What was his strategy here?

Hayworth stop worrying about what McCain is doing. Just stick to the issues. Tell the people of AZ what your ideas are. Border security, low taxes, reining in spending, stopping the Obama regime. Getting into a pissing match with McCain is only going to guarantee your political tombstone. Well it doesn't matter because the second Hayworth loses everybody will scream that it's Sarah's fault anyway.

10 posted on 07/22/2010 7:18:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one.

Bingo!

11 posted on 07/22/2010 7:18:35 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Jim Robinson

HX says:
Does Ortolano really want to go down this road? Whatever you make of Hayworth, he did point to a fact. Not a fact about law enforcement generally, but about one man. Even Babeu admitted an “error,” and many Arizona law enforcement officers, like other Arizonans, find his actions, on this and other occasions, unsettling at least.
So if Ortolano wants to pretend that justified criticism of one uniformed politician for palling around w/ extremists & white supremacists is somehow an attack on all Arizona police, he only raises questions about himself. Does he think Babeu is above criticism? If he really thinks the fact that Arizona is about to enforce this already fraught law is a reason to demand that everyone ignore racial provocations by the people charged w/ enforcing it, he needs to find another profession.

(I copied this from a comment left at the article because it’s spot on, IMNSHO)


12 posted on 07/22/2010 7:19:37 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: Jim Robinson
“Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one.”

and McCain

13 posted on 07/22/2010 7:21:42 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: at bay

Well, maybe not the “already fraught law” part, whatever that means. (I guess I should stick to writing my own posts in the future).


14 posted on 07/22/2010 7:24:21 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: tlb

J.D.’s ad was the topic of discussion on Phoenix based KFYI talk-show radio this morning. This is the generally conservative station where J.D. had his afternoon program and the hosts are supportive of him.

They explained that the Sheriff had been invited on the questionable show without knowing that the host had lauded David Duke. When the Sheriff found out that the radio show had white-supremacist leanings he issued a very good apology.

The KFYI analysts thought that J.D. had taken a wrong turn by sliming Babeu in order to get to McCain.

Based on several situations like this, I had already concluded that J.D. does not show good political judgment. I support him, but I wish he were more astute politically. This is because principles are far more important than political judgment.


15 posted on 07/22/2010 7:27:28 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: South40; Jim Robinson
Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one.

Bingo!

You are both right. I am SO tired of seeing the ads with Babeu and McCain. I was very surprised at first to see so much support from Babeu for MCain. The one with them walking through the desert was awful.

16 posted on 07/22/2010 7:29:45 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: tlb

The blue wagons circle themselves again, which should have been expected. Who gives a darn that Babeu, who as a cop ought to himself have known better, got suckered into calling a racial supremacist radio show. In a saner time, the response to Babeu would have been at least a “tsk, tsk.” Politics can be complex.


17 posted on 07/22/2010 7:33:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Irish Eyes

Is McCain saying, like Peppermint Patty in Peanuts, “My sweet Babeu?” :-)


18 posted on 07/22/2010 7:34:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Irish Eyes
Thank you for the insight.

Residing in Kalifornia, and given its past and present representation, I'm hardly in the position to critique the political choices made by the good People of Arizona. But as viewed by one from an adjoining state and one who has also been adversely affected by the ILLEGAL hordes, and for the good of this country, it is clear McCain simply must go.

19 posted on 07/22/2010 7:42:08 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: McGavin999
I understand that, but my fingers are crossed because DC is very, very corrupting, and JD isn't running strictly on principles, but is trying to be cute with side issues.
That doesn't bode well, in my mind, to expect he will withstand the corrupting assault that is DC lobbyist and associated money peddling criminals.
20 posted on 07/22/2010 7:42:09 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: tlb; Fantasywriter; J Edgar; McGavin999; South40; kanawa; Jim Robinson; jospehm20; FR_addict

Arizona, the state that elected “Big Sis” twice.

Sarah Palin came to Arizona early and gave McCain the advantage (thanks a lot Sarah). Now JD has to contend with this ad:

Watch it - you’ll realize that something evil is going on.

McCain TV Ad: “Sheriffs”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJkI0idBAWw


21 posted on 07/22/2010 7:46:04 PM PDT by donna (Pull over immediately and text your resignation.)
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To: donna
Now JD has to contend with this ad:

In my opinion, so do the sheriffs.

Endorsing a pro-amnesty, liberal wonk like McCain has destroyed their credibility, just as it did one former governor.

22 posted on 07/22/2010 7:49:57 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: donna

Thanks for the link. If McCain is involved, you can bet something evil is afoot. I’ll try to watch the ad later. Right now, for the sake of my blood pressure, I’m listening to Doc Watson play Deep River Blues. Next, Windy and Warm. ;)


23 posted on 07/22/2010 7:50:00 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: tlb
Babeu called in to a white-supremacist radio show -- apparently without knowing it was a show for racists

Says who and what does that mean 'show for racist'. Tea Partiers are racist. Anybody that disagrees with Obama is a racist and in fact just being white makes one a racist.

I sure wouldn't take the word of the MSM or a politician on it.

24 posted on 07/22/2010 7:54:41 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: donna

That’s a fine ad for those who live outside of Arizona. The thing is, for people who live here there is one sheriff that is noticably missing.......Sheriff Joe who is one of the most popular elected officials in the state and who endorses JD.


25 posted on 07/22/2010 7:55:52 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: donna
JD Hayworth’s biggest problem is not Sarah Palin; it's JD Hayworth. The “Free Money” informercial was an absolute embarassment.

I support JD not because I think he's great, but because he is the lesser of two evils.

26 posted on 07/22/2010 7:58:24 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

Sarah undercut JD before he could even get started - just as planned.


27 posted on 07/22/2010 8:12:11 PM PDT by donna (Pull over immediately and text your resignation.)
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To: J Edgar

If JD wins, I’m certain I’ll want him challenged in 2016. If McCain wins, I’m voting democrat and hoping we oust the rat in 2016.

That is about as good as it gets anymore. I don’t think any of the politicians understand ANYTHING but raising money and giving my money to their friends.


28 posted on 07/22/2010 8:21:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Fantasywriter

“I’m listening to Doc Watson play Deep River Blues.”

Love Doc Watson. Ain’t he great?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm3ESQpWDwY
Doc Watson - “The Last Thing On My Mind”
Not too bad for an old blind guy!


29 posted on 07/22/2010 8:25:27 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: tlb

I was thinking about the Sheriff.

I was thinking what a little judgement and independence will do for you. The man is not only a good Sheriff; he is a good businessman and with the way he has handled the stray dog situation; he has given the prisoners positive reinforcement too.

What a guy.


30 posted on 07/22/2010 8:27:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: BnBlFlag

OMC - I don’t believe you linked that video! Honest to goodness, as soon as I finished listening to Windy and Warm, I listened to The Last Thing on My Mind - Twice. This is a little bit more than GMTA, isn’t it? ;)


31 posted on 07/22/2010 8:30:13 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: FR_addict
The show in question.
Describe themselves as paleoconservative.
32 posted on 07/22/2010 8:34:37 PM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "It's going to take a while for us to dig ourselves out of this hole.'')
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To: Jim Robinson

I invite you to keep your mouth of Sheriff Babeu. He fights a battle against illegal immigrants and drug cartels every day. He does such a good job that the cartels have put a price on his head. Sheriff Barbeu’s back yard is Pinal County, an area where his deputies are out-gunned, outnumbered by hundreds of percentage points. Pinal County is one of the areas where there are apparently Mexican drug cartel sniper/obeservation posts. One of Sheriff Barbeu’s deputies, Louie Puroll was shot this year while pursuing drug thugs—he thought he was going to die. Asked the officer he was communicating with to tell his wife he loves her. This is the man who defends Pinal County—between the Mexican border and Phoenix—and therefore us. Paul Barbeu is one of the most respected and love law enforcement officers in Arizona—right up there with our Sheriff Joe. And you are not.


33 posted on 07/22/2010 8:38:29 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,
I am a big JD supporter also, I sent both FR and JD donations because I believe in both of them so strongly. We need help here in this great border state. Thank you, for standing with JD even if he has made some mistakes. Compared to McCain.......


34 posted on 07/22/2010 8:40:39 PM PDT by marmar ((Although, I may look different then you....my blood still runs..RED, WHITE, & BLUE. RETIRED USAF))
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To: kanawa

Abstract questions: So who are the “deciders” that this Political Cesspool Radio Program is allegedly White Supremacist? What specifically defines a White Supremacist?

My guess is they are the same individuals who have already decided that the numerous other ethno-centric, nationalistic, “my tribe or race is more important than yours” organizations such as the La Raza, Muslim, Jewish, Blacks, Asians are just fine upstanding liberal minority organizations.


35 posted on 07/22/2010 8:48:27 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: righttackle44
I know who Sheriff Joe is....I have only just seen Babeu or Barbeu on TV so I don't think they are in the same league. Just saying......
36 posted on 07/22/2010 8:58:57 PM PDT by marmar ((Although, I may look different then you....my blood still runs..RED, WHITE, & BLUE. RETIRED USAF))
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To: righttackle44

Your boy is backing McCain. I have no respect for that or anyone who backs anyone supporting McCain. He still pitching “It’s not amnesty” in his debate with JD, and if he is reelected we will surely see amnesty.


37 posted on 07/22/2010 9:28:41 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: righttackle44

Babeu endorsing McCain and campaigning for McCain shows that he is being paid off in some way. No sheriff with morals would endorse McCain. Arizona is in big trouble.


38 posted on 07/22/2010 9:33:25 PM PDT by donna (Pull over immediately and text your resignation.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Great minds do think alike!!!!!! LOL!


39 posted on 07/22/2010 9:35:02 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: tlb

Hmmm, let me get this straight. White Supremacist bad, La Raza, Black Panthers, Jeremiah Wright and the NAACP good.

There is truly so much BS around we should all be wearing hip boots.


40 posted on 07/22/2010 10:03:01 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Ike must be rolling over in his grave. “Why all the handwringing? I rounded the illegals up in a matter of months.”


41 posted on 07/22/2010 10:40:51 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: FR_addict

From the website. You can decide for yourself.

STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES

“We represent a philosophy that is pro-White...”

“America would not be as prosperous, ruggedly individualistic, and a land of opportunity if the founding stock were not Europeans.”

“We wish to revive the White birthrate above replacement level fertility and beyond to grow the percentage of Whites in the world relative to other races. “

“Many older pro-whites ...”

“He sticks with legitimate complaints that gentiles have and our fear of the genocide of immigration and intermarriage...”

“...the disappearance of the white race...”

http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/statement.php


42 posted on 07/22/2010 11:00:13 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Jim Robinson
Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one.

The commercial made me feel rotten inside. The policemen, their leadership and the unions made a decision a long time ago.

The deemed it OK for illegal invaders to destroy lives, families, property across America. They accepted the fact that many policemen would die in the line of duty because the borders are umprotected.

How many policemen besides Joe have taken their oath to serve and protect seriously?

43 posted on 07/23/2010 4:31:41 AM PDT by winodog
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The commercial made me feel rotten inside

After reading the rest of the thread I see theres another commercial. I was talking about the one where Mac the sellout takes a border walk. That video was creepy, Mac was creepy.

The Bible says a double minded man is unstable in all his ways and the mac the scallywag is both.

44 posted on 07/23/2010 5:12:30 AM PDT by winodog
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To: tlb; Clintonfatigued; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; PGalt; mkjessup; blackie; SwinneySwitch; ...

J.D. Hayworth endorsed by
National Association of Police Organizations

Phoenix, AZ (April 12) -The National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO), one of the largest coalitions of police associations from across the United States, announced today that it has endorsed J.D. Hayworth for U.S. Senate.

William Johnson, Executive Director, stated, “NAPO is pleased to support J.D. Hayworth and is confident of his support of America’s law enforcement when in Washington D.C..”

http://www.jdforsenate.com/news/2010/04/12/hayworth-endorsed-national-association-police-organizations

Arizona is getting the best senator money can buy....thanks to the campaign donations from McCain’s prez run!

[snip]U.S. Sen. John McCain is spending money like his political life depends on it, pouring more than $15 million into his primary challenge against J.D. Hayworth.

According to a quarterly report filed with the Federal Elections Committee, McCain has spent about 10 times more than Hayworth and far more than all other candidates combined. He reported spending about $15.6 million, compared to about $1.5 million for Hayworth.

McCain has raised about $15 million so far, about half of which was transferred from his 2008 presidential campaign.

http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2010/07/23/mccain-fundraising-tops-15-million/


45 posted on 07/23/2010 8:46:46 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: righttackle44
I invite you to keep your mouth of Sheriff Babeu

Judging from the context of your remarks you condemn criticism of LEO. I invite you to hit the preview button multiple times to at least get the grammar correct. Convincing you of how half baked your ideas are is probably beyond me.

46 posted on 07/23/2010 8:56:08 AM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: donna; All

” Sarah undercut JD before he could even get started - just as planned. “

Best post so far this year!!

Truth need not be complicated!


47 posted on 07/23/2010 8:56:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Jim Robinson

” Sounds like Sheriff Paul Babeu is the clueless one. “

Sheriff Joe is our hero out here. I never even heard of Sheriff Baboon until I read this thread!


48 posted on 07/23/2010 8:58:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: AuntB

The National Association of Police Organizations ought to count for something. Good job!


49 posted on 07/23/2010 8:58:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK,, and Reagan. Tax cuts work. FAnnie/FReddie hurt.)
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To: AuntB

They also endorsed Sonia Sotomayor. NAPO basically an organization of police unions - they have no real political ideology beyond that of supporting that which supports police unions and “fraternal orders”.


50 posted on 07/23/2010 9:05:20 AM PDT by stormer
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