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What's So Bad about the JournoList?
Real Clear Politics - Horse Race Blog ^ | 7/23/2010 | Jay Cost

Posted on 07/23/2010 12:38:29 PM PDT by Smogger

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To: worst-case scenario

Intellectual subversion on a wholesale scale is no worse than planting explosives in a crowded train or building. Of course I am!


21 posted on 07/23/2010 1:29:03 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Because there an no good journalists, politicians, lawyers, and judges, right?

Ya might want to take a look at what Stalin did to secure power. You’d have fit right in.


22 posted on 07/23/2010 1:32:50 PM PDT by piytar (Another day in obama's "America." Another day in the march to fascism...)
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To: Gaffer

"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast."

~ William T. Sherman ~

23 posted on 07/23/2010 1:35:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Smogger
I call them Journolefts. Two reasons: they have left real journalism and they are leftist in ideology.
24 posted on 07/23/2010 1:35:37 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: piytar
Ya might want to take a look at what Stalin did to secure power. You’d have fit right in.

Can't happen. Obama has beaten everyone to it. Go back to Polyannaville....

25 posted on 07/23/2010 1:36:11 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Nope. He’s working on it, but people aren’t being sent to camps en mass. Yet.

And believe me, I live far from Polyannaville. You, however, definitely live in nustoland if you really think all journalists, politicians, lawyers, and judges should be killed. Seriously, that’s INSANE.


26 posted on 07/23/2010 1:48:09 PM PDT by piytar (Another day in obama's "America." Another day in the march to fascism...)
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To: screaminsunshine

Who could forget the word........gravitas.........


27 posted on 07/23/2010 1:54:20 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Agree news isn’t about opinions it’s about facts to bad they don’t report them.


28 posted on 07/23/2010 1:56:46 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Gaffer

Then you’re a dangerous fanatic. You don’t murder whole groups of people for expressing opinions. It’s un-American.


29 posted on 07/23/2010 1:58:28 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Part of the problem is that the Rathers and Courics are allowed to label themselves as “objective”. This word has no meaning, it’s just a marketing term now.


30 posted on 07/23/2010 1:59:57 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Carley

I remember that one. They are so obvious. I think they get a fax every day from DNC telling them the talking point to hit.


31 posted on 07/23/2010 2:01:45 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Gaffer

Carlson is right - if they want to hold and even espouse their opinions, fine. Doing under the guise of impartial journalists is fraud.

Substitute the players and industry - say it was brokers and advisors using back-channel listservs, chatting up (or talking down) companies they favor (or don’t), then going out to their clients and pitching them on their favorite investment ideas, regardless of the underlying facts and risks. If found out by the regulators, they’d go to jail and their employers would face sanction and fines.

This should be a much bigger national story than it is but, then again, that would require they report on themselves.


32 posted on 07/23/2010 2:10:41 PM PDT by Be Free (Liberalism is a disease.)
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To: worst-case scenario

And you are a blooming idiot who leaps to generalized Plotanna conclusions.


33 posted on 07/23/2010 2:53:08 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

What is a “Plotanna conclusion”?

You say you want to execute whole classes of people for the opinions they hold. I conclude you are a dangerous fanatic. That’s not a leap - that’s the *definition* of a fanatic.

Sorry, Gaffer - you’re wrong about this. Luckily, America will never let people with your particular belief be in charge. That’s what the Constitution is all about. We don’t slaughter each other over policy differences. We use the ballot box instead.


34 posted on 07/23/2010 3:12:46 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Old North State
Another practical problem with partisans masquerading as objective observers is the modern political process itself. Like debates. We get committed leftists like Gwen Ifill and Jim Lauer etc., ‘moderating’ debates when they are clearly on the side of one of the contestants.

The problem with those like Gwen Ifill and Jim Lehrer, is they are getting paid to spread their liberalism by we the taxpayers.  I don't give a rats rear end about the fools over on CNN or MSNBC, at least my taxpayer money is not funding that garbage.  It's people like Ifill and Lehrer that I have a problem with.

35 posted on 07/23/2010 10:29:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Deb
Its all fine as long as JournoListers like Jeffrey Toobin appear on CNN as their "Legal Editor" wearing his "I'm a Democrat" t-shirt.

Yeah. Like a full and open disclosure. He should be required to wear a wife-beater shirt with "I'm a Democrat" in large bold font emblazoned across his scrawny chest.

36 posted on 07/23/2010 10:38:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

My husband has been spending an unGodly number of hours working lately and has not the time to follow the news.

I was telling him about JournoList this evening and brought up the very point you’ve just made. We should not rest until are tax dollars are cut off from these propagandists. NPR being my #1 target.


37 posted on 07/23/2010 10:40:26 PM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani

It should become priority one after The Rookie has been impeached by a Republican-controlled Congress.


38 posted on 07/23/2010 10:47:02 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: worst-case scenario
What is " nustoland?".....

You say 'opinions they hold' yet you neglect the systemmatic devolution of our society by their willing collusion to bring it down [these are 'actions' by the way - not 'opinions'].

They are active in every area: education, health, legislation, litigation and taxation, and even voting, for which you hold so much hope despite massive overt fraud. I don't know how much more of an assault on freedom such as this you can ignore and call 'opinion'.

Regardless, you have your opinions and I have mine. I do not, nor will not advocate wholesale slaughter despite your leap to think so over a figurative comment. All I am saying is that we should take note of the historic revolution and hold these people accountable in a manner that brings justice, not the perverted justice meted out today by liberals.

39 posted on 07/24/2010 7:10:07 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

I have no idea what “nutstoland is, either. It looks like a typo for “nutsoland,” which *someone other than me* must have typed. I STILL want to know what a “Plotanna conclusion” is - I googled the term and can find no reference to it.

They are “active in every area” because your fellow citizens agree with them, in many cases. What you call “their willing collusion to bring it down” is what THEY believe the Tea Party wants to do - bring down the whole system of taxes and the system of government involvement that THEY want, and that is actually in place right now. THEY see the Tea Party as the threat to the society they live in.

There is, apparently, a large percentage of people who actually support these ideas. I know - I live in a state FULL of them. They are intelligent, rational, patriotic people who see things very differently, and emphasize different points of view. I argue with them, and can get them to change their points of view, but not by insulting them and calling them traitors.

You know that I have never heard ONE of my Liberal customers or neighbors say that all Conservatives should be executed.

You cited the French Revolution as if it were a good thing. Do a bit of reading on the Terror that followed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
Most of the original Revolutionaries, including Danton and Desmoulins, were guillotined because they weren’t ideologically pure enough. It was their old comrade Robespierre who condemned them saying, “Terror is nothing else than swift, severe, indomitable justice; it flows, then, from virtue.” Do you agree with him?

(Robespierre and 21 of his close friends were executed a year later, in the revolt *against* the French Revolution.

History has shown over and over and over that the manner of “justice” that you have called for is doomed to failure. People always rise up against a tyranny of “correct point of view” that enforces itself with blood. That is what you are calling for in your sweeping condemnation of people for, yes, their opinions and the way they choose to live those out.

Why don’t you try convincing people you disagree with of their errors? You don’t need to convince anybody on FR about the evils of socialism or the need to ensure individual liberty. Try some other forum where the Libs gather.


40 posted on 07/24/2010 8:33:42 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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