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Retirement will be risky for many Americans, study says (All your 401k are belong to them?)
STL Today ^ | 7/21/10 | DAVID NICKLAUS

Posted on 07/23/2010 7:38:18 PM PDT by Libloather

Retirement will be risky for many Americans, study says
BY DAVID NICKLAUS
Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:20 pm

More than 40 percent of Americans are at risk of having too little retirement income, a new study by the Employee Benefit Research Institute says.

What's more, the oldest workers are the least prepared to quit working. The EBRI says that 47% of early Baby Boomers are at risk of running out of money in retirement, compared with 44.5 percent of Generation Xers.

For some people, retirement savings won't last very long at all. Among the lowest-income quarter of the working population, 41 percent will be short of money after a mere 10 years in retirement.

The study doesn't say what should be done about this problem; it only suggests that officials take these results into account when designing retirement policy.

Charts in the EBRI study show the benefit of adding one popular fix, an auto-enrollment feature, to 401k plans. A 25-year-old in a plan with auto-enrollment and auto-escalation (where your contributions will increase each year unless you opt out) would accumulate more than twice as much savings as a typical 25-year-old in a plan without those features.

Other recent research, though, says that may not be true. Economists from the IMF and the Urban Institute says that employers with auto-enrollment plans tend to be less generous with their matching contributions. Mauricio Soto and Barbara Butrica write:

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; americans; banks; financial; hussein; reform; retirement
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After signing the bill with 11 different pens, Obama said, “It’s done.” But really, it’s only beginning.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/americas/Obama-ushers-in-new-financial-era/Article1-576317.aspx

"It is not a perfect bill, I will be the first to admit that. We don't know ultimately how well the ideas we've incorporated here will achieve the results we desire. It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis when it happens," Sen. Chris Dodd said Thursday.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/07/15/dodd_it_will_take_another_economic_crisis_to_determine_if_financial_reform_worked.html

Manufacture another crisis and assume control of all that 401k loot. Protect yourself.

1 posted on 07/23/2010 7:38:19 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

They are already working on the crisis. Evidently there is a serious trend of employers stealing from 401k funds.


2 posted on 07/23/2010 7:40:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Libloather

If they try anything like that they will have trouble getting out of Washington alive.


3 posted on 07/23/2010 7:41:32 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Libloather
We don't know how it works. Just like Dodd’s Countrywide mortgage. Did he find those wily and elusive papers yet?
4 posted on 07/23/2010 7:41:54 PM PDT by hometoroost (McCain is a Ron and Nancy Republican: Campaigns like Reagan, governs like Pelosi)
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To: Libloather

One of the words that has high emotional scores among Dems is “risky”. They don’t like risk.


5 posted on 07/23/2010 7:43:04 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Libloather
Screw it. I am going to borrow against my retirement, buy a Shelby(no Vette thanks to you know who) put the rest in liquid form and default on the loan and run till I am frisked to death by Police Woman.


6 posted on 07/23/2010 7:44:48 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Libloather

Thanks to Dodd and Frank my 401k became a 201k. The idiots in government (I repeat myself) created the problem and now I afraid they truly believe they can fix it.


7 posted on 07/23/2010 7:46:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Libloather

401K is a great deal when you have money and a income that gets killed in taxes, but just starting out? Try furnature and a down payment on a house.


8 posted on 07/23/2010 7:46:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: driftdiver; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Evidently there is a serious trend of employers stealing from 401k funds.

Heard that one today.

9 posted on 07/23/2010 7:48:52 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather

You would think they could take a break from manufacturing crises what with all the real crises that they’re not addressing. But you would be wrong.


10 posted on 07/23/2010 7:49:08 PM PDT by casuist (Audi alteram partem)
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To: Libloather

I have a had non-contributary plan for 31 years as part of my compensation. Not a 401K, although I have of those too.

If any of this is stolen or the contract broken and rewritten retroactively by fed govt decree. There will be revolution.


11 posted on 07/23/2010 7:51:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Libloather
The financial mess we're in is largely due to social engineering policies, and many honest hard working people have been and will be hurt significantly as a consequence. It's unconscionable that people in their 60s who have worked and saved and played by the rules their whole lives are going to pay the price for societal ills they have nothing to do with.
12 posted on 07/23/2010 7:54:11 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: All

HUSBAND: What happen?

WIFE: Somebody set up us the taxes.

FINANCIAL CONSULTANT: We get pwnd on 401K

HUSBAND: What!

HUSBAND Computer screen turn on.

FINANCIAL CONSULTANT: It’s you!!

OBAMA: How are you gentlemen!!

OBAMA: All your 401K’s are belong to us.


13 posted on 07/23/2010 7:54:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: driftdiver
Evidently there is a serious trend of employers stealing from 401k funds.

Oh beautiful, just frekin' beautiful! Its not a bear market. It is my own company robbing me.

(Evidently there is a serious trend of more union organizers being employed by the Federal Government)

14 posted on 07/23/2010 7:55:50 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: kbennkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLax5kn8tF4


15 posted on 07/23/2010 7:57:44 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Libloather

I have to joke about it, but this type of thing IS serious and it is going to happen.

You KNOW it is going to happen.

I can hear a lot of people right now:

“Oh, they would NEVER take our 401K’s against our wishes and put force us to put them into a government controlled retirement plan.”


16 posted on 07/23/2010 7:58:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: kbennkc

Holy Moley! Angie!


17 posted on 07/23/2010 7:58:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: kbennkc

ROTFLMAO!

Hmm. What will it be?

Death by frisking Police Woman? Or...

Death by Government Booga Booga?


18 posted on 07/23/2010 7:59:58 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: RedMDer
There will be revolution.

The fix is in. Gas up the ol' VW van and smile, smile, smile.

See you on the other side.

19 posted on 07/23/2010 8:05:52 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: rlmorel
I choose Police woman frisk .
Gubmint: But first Booga Booga!
Life is hard and miserable, then you die.
20 posted on 07/23/2010 8:07:43 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: All

Argentina.

We will have a 401K if we take it out of our 401K, otherwise the money will become Pesos (if we are fortunate).


21 posted on 07/23/2010 8:07:48 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: Libloather

Eventually the word “retirement” will no longer be found in Webster’s dictionary.


22 posted on 07/23/2010 8:10:59 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Libloather

“You’re not retiring!”

“Get back to work, you old fool! 0bamaCare isn’t free, you know!”

Boy...are Americans going to get the shock of their lives when this new government’s commie turd hits them square between their eyeballs!

Welcome to America 2010!

You are all just state property—owned by the leftist ruling class in D.C.

Game Over.


23 posted on 07/23/2010 8:11:25 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: kbennkc
Screw it. I am going to borrow against my retirement...

And HAVE to pay it back - with interest - and pay taxes on it later? Good luck with all that.

24 posted on 07/23/2010 8:13:43 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather

Never though I’d say this but we are setting up to go Galt for real. We must throw them out in November and reset most of what has passed in the 40 years or so.


25 posted on 07/23/2010 8:15:22 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: rlmorel; qam1

That never gets old to me!

BTW, I support Obamacare for Boomers!


26 posted on 07/23/2010 8:17:48 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Huskrrrr
Eventually the word “retirement” will no longer be found in Webster’s dictionary.

Good thing there's an urban dictionary. It'll either be called 'livin' free' or "I'm RICH beotch"!

27 posted on 07/23/2010 8:18:28 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Incorrigible

Im a Boomer.


28 posted on 07/23/2010 8:20:36 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: kbennkc

Oh, man. I know I shouldn’t even laugh about this subject, but...it is too fraught with humor.


29 posted on 07/23/2010 8:26:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Incorrigible

Heck, I suppose I am in that age range, so...off I go to the Gulag on one of Willie Green’s trains...:)


30 posted on 07/23/2010 8:27:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Libloather

I have 2 sisters and 1 brother. One sister (late 40’s) and the brother (mid 50’s) have absolutely ZERO saved for retirement. The sister because she spends everything she gets and the brother because of alcoholism (thankfully he has been sober the last 3 years).

Anyway, they will jump on the first bandwagon looking for retirement money from the government... doesn’t matter where it comes from. Couple that with all the other people who have not saved a dime, and our 40lk’s are toast!


31 posted on 07/23/2010 8:28:29 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: kbennkc
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32 posted on 07/23/2010 8:29:49 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Reddy
I have 2 sisters and 1 brother. One sister (late 40’s) and the brother (mid 50’s) have absolutely ZERO saved for retirement.

Screwed beyond belief. Better finish off that basement.

33 posted on 07/23/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather
And HAVE to pay it back - with interest - and pay taxes on it later? Good luck with all that.

Maybe you missed my first two words. I said SCREW IT.

I will pay nothing back, nobody can make me. There is no later. Merciful heaven FRiend haven't you been watching Glen Beck ? It is OVER!

34 posted on 07/23/2010 8:31:34 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: kbennkc
Maybe you missed my first two words. I said SCREW IT.

Nope. Saw it. Liquidate now, pay the taxes and sleep better on that mattress account.

35 posted on 07/23/2010 8:34:22 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Graybeard58
You should see my “before working my boney ass off for 60 plus years” and “the after” pictures. You won't. You're welcome.
36 posted on 07/23/2010 8:35:25 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: rlmorel

Touche! You topped me with a Willie Green train referance! LOL


37 posted on 07/23/2010 8:37:35 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

HA!


38 posted on 07/23/2010 8:40:32 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Libloather

“Screwed beyond belief. Better finish off that basement.”

Looks like we will all be living in someone’s basement once Zero steals our 40lk’s. :(


39 posted on 07/23/2010 8:52:09 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: Libloather

I turn 31 next week. Hubby is 33. We’ve been saving for retirement with a Roth IRA and 401K for six years. But we’re they only ones I know who do so, our age that is. I’m not sure how big an uproar messing with them would cause. I would be mad as hell, but how many more would just shrug and say whatever?


40 posted on 07/23/2010 8:57:29 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: rlmorel

I met her on more that one occasion and she is way more attractive in person and that frickin body OMG


41 posted on 07/23/2010 8:58:33 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: kbennkc

Isn’t the problem with this approach... the money will soon be worthless anyway??

I’ve been trying to talk my husband into taking our 40lk money out paying the penalties, buying land with a natural spring, and then see what happens. So far, he isn’t very excited about that scenario.


42 posted on 07/23/2010 9:02:02 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: Libloather
Buy 'em each a shipping container...better yet, move them all into one.


43 posted on 07/23/2010 9:02:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Incorrigible; dfwgator; Pessimist

If you haven’t read it, you should check out today’s installment at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2557791/posts and be sure to check out dfwgator’s post at 14 and the reply By pessimist at post 25!

There is a flying Monkey exiting butt reference there...


44 posted on 07/23/2010 9:07:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Reddy; Libloather
If you want rational advice I'd suggest Libloather. Get
back to me if you decide you have to kick the old man to the curb and go off in a Shelby with your half of the dough.
45 posted on 07/23/2010 9:08:21 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: al baby

SHE was a babe...yer a lucky man, al baby...


46 posted on 07/23/2010 9:09:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I would like those people in their sixties to apologize for playing by the rules. Also Santa should say he’s sorry.
The elves brush up on their Act of Contrition.


47 posted on 07/23/2010 9:12:13 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Whoops, wrong thread.


48 posted on 07/23/2010 9:13:03 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Libloather

In the long run we’re all goners anyway.


49 posted on 07/23/2010 9:16:28 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: mockingbyrd
But we’re they only ones I know who do so, our age that is. I’m not sure how big an uproar messing with them would cause. I would be mad as hell, but how many more would just shrug and say whatever?

I've instructed my 20-something kiddo to save as much as possible. The excrement is about to hit the fan. Don't worry about anyone else who doesn't have a plan - not your problem.

When things get really bad, can I stay in your mansion?

Happy birthday, BTW.

50 posted on 07/23/2010 9:16:31 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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