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China floods put pressure on Three Gorges Dam
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/23/10 | Chi-Chi Zhang - ap

Posted on 07/23/2010 7:52:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BEIJING – Record-high water levels at China's massive Three Gorges Dam have called into question Beijing's claims that the world's largest hydroelectric project could withstand a 10,000-year flood.

The water level reached 518 feet (158 meters) Saturday morning, just 55 feet (17 meters) from the reservoir's maximum capacity of 573 feet (175 meters), flood control headquarters in the central province of Hubei told The Associated Press.

Water could go higher with China's national weather center issuing a warning Saturday of more torrential rains for the region through 8 a.m. Sunday.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; dam; floods; pressure; threegorges; threegorgesdam
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1 posted on 07/23/2010 7:52:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Lightning strikes in Poyang county in Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, July 20, 2010. Much of China has been suffering flooding and landslides after weeks of torrential downpours. At least 146 people have died since the start of this month, as a result of the rains, and another 40 are missing. REUTERS/Aly Song


2 posted on 07/23/2010 7:55:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

So if the dam burst would it take BP of the front pages ?


3 posted on 07/23/2010 7:55:32 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s a Wal-Mart dam. Hmmm...


4 posted on 07/23/2010 7:56:08 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: al baby

When the levee breaks, mama you got to move...


5 posted on 07/23/2010 7:57:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: al baby

How do you say “OH SH**” in Chinese?


6 posted on 07/23/2010 8:00:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: NormsRevenge
Seven years ago, Chinese officials boasted the dam could withstand floods so severe they come only once every 10,000 years. But as the current flooding in central China — especially along the country's largest river, the Yangtze — shows no sign of waning, officials now warn the dam's capacity is limited.

Since the completion of the Three Gorges Dam in 2006, confidence in its flood capacity has diminished.

In 2007, officials said the dam could withstand the worst flood in 1,000 years.

Then on Tuesday, the Three Gorges Corporation's chairman, Cao Guangjing, told China Daily he can "absolutely guarantee" the dam can withstand the worst flood in 100 years.

7 posted on 07/23/2010 8:02:14 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: al baby

knock on wood. It could,, lot of heads would roll


8 posted on 07/23/2010 8:03:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: rawhide

Watched a documentary on the Discovery channel years ago that stated that if the Three Gorges Dam ever gave way, over 16 million would die in the ensuing flood. Hope the Chinese Government has taken this into consideration when they relocated all the downstream folks.


9 posted on 07/23/2010 8:03:29 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: rawhide

It’s not even open 10 years .. wow,, they sure build it tough in China.


10 posted on 07/23/2010 8:04:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As Bill Cosby says, “First you say it, then you do it.”


11 posted on 07/23/2010 8:04:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

This spring and summer have been really unusual in China. Summer arrived REALLY late, and it’s been really wet...

Looks like they’ll have to open the flood-gates of the dam a bit earlier than expected. But when you realize the size of the reservoir (400 square MILES), well, 55 feet to go is a LOT of water!


12 posted on 07/23/2010 8:05:36 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
哦,糞!
13 posted on 07/23/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: doc1019

A failure of the Three Gorges Dam would bring China to its knees. They will likely start a war to distract, deflect and drive what remains of their economy.

Human life has no value to China’s rulers. Remember that it is a culture that has periodically burned its libraries and slaughtered its scholars.


14 posted on 07/23/2010 8:07:34 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How do you say “OH SH**” in Chinese?

哎呀

15 posted on 07/23/2010 8:09:05 PM PDT by ibheath
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To: HiTech RedNeck
哦,糞! OMG thats what I had for dinner damn Chinese I said dam
16 posted on 07/23/2010 8:12:22 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: NormsRevenge

Lets not have a repeat. Chu Jiaozi “the River Dragon has come”

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/aug1975.htm


17 posted on 07/23/2010 8:13:00 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I saw so pictures on the dam with th egates open and the water is flying out 300 feet. Scary as hell. If this thing goes, and it might, God help them.


18 posted on 07/23/2010 8:14:18 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: al baby

There was a lot of foreign engineers on this project. They may have been forced to cut corners they did not want to but I know a couple that worked on the project and they never mentioned problems like that.


19 posted on 07/23/2010 8:14:31 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dang.


20 posted on 07/23/2010 8:14:53 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ibheath

OK, so how do you say “Bush’s fault’ in Chinese?


21 posted on 07/23/2010 8:16:08 PM PDT by Humble Servant ( See y'all in the gulag.)
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To: ibheath

According to Babelfish, you got the “Oh” part fine.


22 posted on 07/23/2010 8:17:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: doc1019

16 million out of 1.3 billion people. They’ll make up for that in a year’s time easy!


23 posted on 07/23/2010 8:18:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Noumenon

Now they did this, why? to get hydro energy?

How many nukes would China need to match the output of Three Gorges?


24 posted on 07/23/2010 8:19:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Humble Servant
灌木的缺點
25 posted on 07/23/2010 8:20:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ibheath; High-tech Redneck

O Fen!! (for the first character)

Ay ya!! (for the seccond set of characters)

I read of an American geologist who was with this project at the beginning. But after studying what the effects of flooding would be to the porous mountains in the area, he pulled out with a warning. I’ve been up and down that river and in that dam area three times.I cry for what they are doing.


26 posted on 07/23/2010 8:21:26 PM PDT by Exit148 (Loose Change Club Founder. Save your pennies for the next Freepathon. A little goes a long way!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Last year they had a problem with the lack of water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWoDrEqTmgI

Now it is too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jTbBpRTlnw

Isn’t that thing starting to show cracks?


27 posted on 07/23/2010 8:22:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

We may scoff and laugh, but to imagine 16 million souls lost in an instant ... hard to imagine, hard to take as a Christian.


28 posted on 07/23/2010 8:22:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: al baby
I am sure all relief valves are open, but I did locate this interesting paragraph...

"The consequence of failure at the Three Gorges Dam would rank as history’s worst man-made disaster. More than 75 million people live downstream on an intensively cultivated floodplain that provides much of China’s food."

29 posted on 07/23/2010 8:24:05 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3(0|\|0/\/\1($ 101: (4P174L1$/\/\ R3QU1r3$ (4P174L. Could it be any more simple?)
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To: Exit148

O Fen Ay Ya! What follows, a karate chop?


30 posted on 07/23/2010 8:24:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: doc1019

Christians don’t say much about the 200 million lives that were snuffed out by the Leftists during the 20th century. Then the millions of unborn every year not just in this country but around the world.


31 posted on 07/23/2010 8:26:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Too much, BUT as long as they can let the excess flow past the dam, no problem, right?

Unless the unusually large inundation results in fluidization of the soil and loosening of the dam structure’s anchors, as with Katrina and the levees in New Orleans.


32 posted on 07/23/2010 8:28:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Christians don’t say much about the 200 million lives that were snuffed out by the Leftists during the 20th century.

Not sure about what you mean?

33 posted on 07/23/2010 8:30:49 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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Graphic on flooding in China. China -- already reeling from deadly floods -- is braced for a potential new deluge on the Yangtze downstream from the huge Three Gorges Dam as its reservoir's level hit a high for the year. (AFP Graphic)


34 posted on 07/23/2010 8:31:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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Water is discharged from the Three Gorges Dam to lower the level in its reservoir in Yichang, Hubei province July 20, 2010. REUTERS/Stringer


35 posted on 07/23/2010 8:32:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: doc1019
We may scoff and laugh, but to imagine 16 million souls lost in an instant ... hard to imagine, hard to take as a Christian.

I agree, scoffing and laughing over the potential immediate deaths of any number of people is lacking civility and human decency, yet... I must ask, given your last words - are you a Deist? (Luke 13:4-5)

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

36 posted on 07/23/2010 8:34:34 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: doc1019

You take all of the people who died at the hands (both for and against the likes) of Hitler, Mao, Stalin and the many other Leftist dictators during the 20th century and the number reaches close to 200 million. Chinese researches several years ago were up to 177 million. I figure they have found more by now.


37 posted on 07/23/2010 8:42:09 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The TGD is primarily a flood control mechanism. Power is important, but perhaps not as important as that. Failure of that structure would be beyond catastrophic. Millions - and I mean millions - of peole dead.

The economic consequence would also be beyond catastrophic - the ensuing flood would destroy numerous cites with all of their industry and infrastructure. China would convulse with social upheval in the wake of this catastrophe. It's possible that China would do what it has always done when its dynasties and regimes collapse - revert to chaos and warlordism for a time.

38 posted on 07/23/2010 8:46:08 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; ibheath

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=translate+%E5%93%A6+%E7%B3%9E&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=C4jW5vmBKTLb4LIuEhQT8-rGmAQAAAKoEBU_Q57aX


39 posted on 07/23/2010 8:46:27 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: The Theophilus

Regardless Gods reasoning, the loss of life is still nothing to smile about. And no I’m not a Deist. If I were, I wouldn’t care about the potential loss of life. I’m just a Christian that mourns all loss of life even if it is God’s will. Just call me an old softy.


40 posted on 07/23/2010 8:47:19 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: Humble Servant

Since you asked and I was there... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=translate+Bush%27s+fault+to+chinese&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


41 posted on 07/23/2010 8:48:27 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: rawhide

So they have gone from a design that will withstand a 10,000-year event, to 1,000-year, ah, solly, 100-year event. Dam! Never could get those zeros right.


42 posted on 07/23/2010 8:53:20 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse ("It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged." - G.K. Chesterton, 1921)
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To: Noumenon

“The TGD is primarily a flood control mechanism. Power is important, but perhaps not as important as that. Failure of that structure would be beyond catastrophic. Millions - and I mean millions - of peole dead.
The economic consequence would also be beyond catastrophic - the ensuing flood would destroy numerous cites with all of their industry and infrastructure. China would convulse with social upheval in the wake of this catastrophe. It’s possible that China would do what it has always done when its dynasties and regimes collapse - revert to chaos and warlordism for a time.”

How many constructs of man have not eventually failed?

Like Paul Simon wrote in a wise moment, “everything put together eventually falls apart”.

What were the Chinese thinking when they built that thing?


43 posted on 07/23/2010 8:56:02 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2537279.ece
Three Gorges Dam is a disaster in the making, China admits
September 27, 2007

(excerpt)
In an unprecedented admission of blame, Communist Party officials gave a stark warning yesterday of impending disaster in the vast area around the dam if preventive measures are not urgently introduced.

One of the most worrying consequences of the project has been the sharp increase in landslides around the dam. Studies by geologists have shown that the water seeping out of the reservoir and the huge pressure changes are weakening the banks.

One official said that the shore of the reservoir had collapsed in 91 places and a total of 36 kilometres (22 miles) had already caved in.

Landslides have produced waves as high as 50 metres (165ft). In July a mountain along a tributary collapsed, dragging 13 farmers to their deaths and drowning 11 fishermen.

Ms Dai told The Times: “The Government knows it has made a mistake. Now they are afraid that the catastrophe that they cannot prevent will spark civil unrest. So they want to go public before the troubles start.”


44 posted on 07/23/2010 8:56:04 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Two things:

Power - as in personal power

and Face


45 posted on 07/23/2010 9:03:58 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Outstanding videos, #27.
Thank you.
46 posted on 07/23/2010 9:09:24 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama can't be impeached. He is not leagally POTUS. Ya, I am one of those.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Record-high water levels at China's massive Three Gorges Dam have called into question Beijing's claims that the world's largest hydroelectric project could withstand a 10,000-year flood."

What if this is a 20,000 year flood?

47 posted on 07/23/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wold their new names be Bob?


48 posted on 07/23/2010 9:10:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Exit148
Maybe this may the chinese version of Stalin's canal.

They didnt bother with geological surveys either.

49 posted on 07/23/2010 9:18:19 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I broke the dam


50 posted on 07/23/2010 9:18:28 PM PDT by Nooseman (mutt)
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