Skip to comments.'Journolist' Affair Worse Than Clinton Conspiracy
Posted on 07/23/2010 11:54:37 PM PDT by Def Conservative
Today's journalism scandal involving liberal media members of the invitation-only "Journolist" listserv discussing ways to help 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama or discredit his press critics is far more organized than the Clinton era "vast right-wing media conspiracy," according to former Clinton aides.
While the two media conspiracies have been compared since the listserv E-mails started appearing on the Daily Caller website, former Clinton aides say that there is one major difference between the two. Unlike the current scandal, reporters with conservative media back in the 1990s were competitive and didn't share story ideas.
What's more, the Journolist affair threatens to further undermine media credibility, especially with Republican organizations who tell us that they are reconsidering their relationship with reporters and news organizations on the Journolist listserv that was taken down when it became public.
"Do I think that there are potential issues with that if you get people trying to take particular positions and organize them because that ultimately undermines the objectivity of the media and the sense of independence, yeah," says former Clinton aide Chris Lehane.
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Journolist is a terrible scandal!
They didn’t invite any of us at US News. :(
Another example of collectivism not working. It breeds corruption.
Most in the “Media” should suffer for their complacency in the downfall and coming suffering of innocents of this great United States of America.
An informed people can make judicious decisions; a people kept ignorant cannot remain free.
“According to reports about Journolist, center-left media members”
Almost stopped reading right there. Wish I would have. The rest of the story could be summed up thus: “It’s the Internet’s fault.”
Knew the leftist hacks at US “News” couldn’t be honest about the Journomarist scandal. All they are doing here is trying to get ahead of the story to control the narrative.
Nest step: Blame Bush, Cheney, Fox, or all three...
compare a real journalistic conspiracy to a figment of Hilary’s immagination - yep, thats good reporting!
My my my, Hillary sure is calling in all her favors isn’t she?
What has been looked over in this story is Hillary getting the short end of the stick by these journalists as they worked to get Obama elected and discredit Palin. And this at a time when the Clinton’s were thought to own the media.
Funny how the drib drab is slowly coming out from the Clinton camp about Obama. From their friends at the Globe running Obama B/C reports, to Bill getting media coverage slamming Obama’s policies while seeming to still be supportive, reports running on how Hillary had the DNC nomination stolen from her and now the Clinton’s coming out against journalists coordinating to help a Dem candidate.
I’m popping lots of popcorn for next year - watching the Clinton machine take on Obama’s when he’s slowly turning into a wounded tyrant will be worth watching. Almost as good as seeing which journalists remain in his pocket after being outed for propagandist they are.
NO, its even simpler than that- the JournoList was an ACTUAL conspiracy, the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ was IMAGINARY
“At the time of the Clinton media conspiracy it would have been a firing offense to talk about story coordination with anybody else, mostly because of the more competitive nature at the time.”
Don’t even tell me that, that didn’t happen! I will never, ever, ever believe it didn’t happen.
Remember the Billary picture dancing in the Caribbean right before the Monica story broke? Remember the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy quotes? Remember the “gravitas” quotes about Cheney? Rush has aired the coordination of the political class and media “talking points” for quite some time.
This is not rocket science, nor is it clairvoyance. They have “coordinated” for very long time...for at least 60 years...even though the JournoList listserve hasn’t been around that long
I believe that this story is driven by Hillaryites, and one of them gave Tucker the emails.
We’ve always known the media has coordinated what they report, anyone who doubted this was either a idiot or a DU poster!
You may be right, in fact, I’d say it’s pretty probable that it was a Hillary supporter who outed the list. Only liberals who towed the line were allowed in and I’m positive many of them were Hillary supporters.
It does fit with what I’ve been seeing lately; the Clinton’s managing to get all sorts of positive press that just happens to be damaging to Obama. Could it be the Clinton’s have moved from the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” to seeing Obama the real enemy (not that they won’t come after us once he’s been crushed)?
I’m sure the media will let us know is perfectly coordinated reports....
The formation of the JournoList group was just formalizing the coordination between some in the media, education and op-ed elite wannabes.
Believe me when I tell you that there are Hillaryites who are fuming at the crooked way that Obama ran his campaign. Right now, they are smelling blood, and they won’t let go.
The sad thing for this country is that, should she decide to challenge him again, she might just win this time. The other side doesn’t see her as being as big a Marxist and Alinskyite as Obama is...which she is.
“Im sure the media will let us know is perfectly coordinated reports....”
LOL! I’m sure you are right, but will they be believed this time?
They will have to tear down the Annointed One, first.
Was that not one of the biggest stories in the Democrat primary? How the MSM abandoned Hillary as soon as it became apparent she was vulnerable?
En masse, they began piling on, competing for who could do the most damage.
The phenomenon revealed one thing for sure: The MSM knew the Clintons had used them...and they resented it.
I don’t understand why conservative businessmen don’t get into media. Who or what is stopping them?
Or those is the media believed Obama would be easier to own then Hillary - he was an unknown on the national scene. I’d not put it past power-hungry journalists to think they held as much power with Hillary as they were ever going to get and Obama gave them the opportunity to own another politician.
Now they’ve learned he can’t be owned. He has no loyalty except to himself. He’s not going to let the media control him or his policies and they resent him for it.
I’ve not made up my mind if pro-Hillary journalists are gaining more power or if the media has finally sickened of Barack. Something is going on though.
Hillary is patient if nothing else and she did put herself in a good position. By working for the Admin they can’t throw the charge that she’s not loyal and it may help lessen the racist charge effectively used against her during the election.
You are right, she’s more dangerous than Obama is in many ways and what makes her dangerous is most American’s don’t know her radical background or her marxist beliefs.
Yep the clinton's smell blood...that is when they are at their best...
Yep the clinton's smell blood...that is when they are at their best...they want back ..lets pray this is the end of both clinton and obama...
The foremost thing to remember is that Hillary is a creature of New York City. Period. It is her power base. It is not a conspiracy theory to state that her ultimate base is the secular Jewish community in particular.
Barack Obama has gone a little too far for their tastes in kissing Muslim butt. He is unreliable for looking out for their interests (political and commercial), unlike Hillary.
The Journolist exposure is part of the process of getting the press back onto the reservation. That includes the more radical Jewish reporters who made up the bulk of Journolist.