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Vindicated for Removing Saddam
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 22 July 10 | Ryan Mauro

Posted on 07/24/2010 6:03:57 AM PDT by LSUfan

President Bush’s top political advisor, Karl Rove, said on July 15 that his biggest mistake was not fighting back against Democrats trying to score cheap political points by accusing the President of lying to get the country to support an invasion of Iraq. Rove is right, but another mistake was made: not trying to vindicate the removal of Saddam Hussein using evidence, including Iraqi government documents, that was obtained after the regime’s overthrow. Compelling evidence exists to show that Saddam’s regime was sponsoring terrorists (e.g., Al-Qaeda), had the ability to quickly produce weapons of mass destruction, and the will to use both against its enemies.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; jihad; osamabinladen; saddam; terrorism; wmd; wot
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1 posted on 07/24/2010 6:04:01 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan
Karl Rove, said on July 15 that his biggest mistake was not fighting back against Democrats trying to score cheap political points by accusing the President of lying to get the country to support an invasion of Iraq.

Was this published in "Duh" Magazine?

I remember being one of the Freepers who was pulling his hair out over the lack of response to the lies. I was labeled a "Bush Basher".

2 posted on 07/24/2010 6:33:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Agreed. Bush just didn’t make the case for Iraq to the American people over the din from the Red Press.

Anyone with common sense would be able to understand why being rid of Saddam was necessary.


3 posted on 07/24/2010 6:37:54 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: LSUfan

Anyone who believes this was a ‘mistake’ isn’t paying enough attention. You don’t get to the big leagues making minor league errors like these boys supposedly did.

No, politics is nothing but theatre and all of the players read from the same script.

Wake up people! How come the Pubbies always seem to get ‘taken’ by the Rats? Are they that stupid? Not at all. It’s just theatre. Don’t ever forget that...


4 posted on 07/24/2010 6:48:29 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: LSUfan

the momentum for slapping down the media was not there at the time- not like it is now

Bush was a victim of CNNBCBSPBSMSNBCNPR

Up until they talked the economy into the tank things were fine for 7.5 years

People (just 2 years later) are more aware that the media is a bunch of leftist LIARS more than ever before


5 posted on 07/24/2010 6:49:52 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: LSUfan

Bush would curl up in a ball when the Rats started the lying marathons,The only ones he talked down too were US! calling American citizens racists for not wanting the entire population of dregs from south of the border here with us.


6 posted on 07/24/2010 6:53:57 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: LSUfan
Compelling evidence exists to show that Saddam’s regime was sponsoring terrorists (e.g., Al-Qaeda), had the ability to quickly produce weapons of mass destruction, and the will to use both against its enemies

You mean we had/have "compelling evidence" that Saddam sponsored terrorism and we didn't make it public?

7 posted on 07/24/2010 6:54:18 AM PDT by Riodacat (Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ‹(•¿•)›)
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To: Mr. K

What. Bush didn’t know that no one was watching any of those stations?


8 posted on 07/24/2010 6:58:08 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Riodacat

That evidence has been around for at least 2 years:

The Truth About Saddam and Terrorism

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25604/


9 posted on 07/24/2010 7:00:45 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan
From the article:

One document details a meeting between Iraqi intelligence and Osama Bin Laden in 1995, where Bin Laden asked the Iraqis to broadcast the sermons of an extremist cleric. He also requested joint operations against foreign military forces in Saudi Arabia. Apparently, the Iraqis actively entertained this idea. The Iraqi Perspectives Project found [15] a government manual from 2001 talking about how to overthrow the Saudi Royal Family involving the use of “martyrs.” A Kurdish newspaper published [16] a 2002 document mentioning preparations for a meeting with Ayman al-Zawahiri in relation to a Saddam-approved “revenge operation” against the Saudis. One Al-Qaeda document [17] confirms that some members of the terrorist group had gone to Iraq and that Ayman al-Zawahiri had visited both Iraq and Iran.

It sounds like Saddam scared the hell out of Bush's buddies in the House of Saud, just like back in '91.

10 posted on 07/24/2010 7:01:43 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: jazminerose

It’s like I was living in a dream world during this era. I could have sworn I attended a town hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio February 1998. I must have dreamed I heard Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger and Richard Cohen lay out their case for action in Iraq.
It’s like it never happened.
When you heard the word ‘quagmire’ uttered merely days after the invasion, you knew the direction this was headed.
God Bless our troops for doing the right thing. And to hell with the politicians that thwarted the efforts of a swift and clean operation.


11 posted on 07/24/2010 7:04:38 AM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: LSUfan
Whenever people say to me that we shouldn't have gone in to Iraq I always say ‘then you were ok with Saddam Hussein's reign?’. I always point out that he would still be in power if not for the fact that we found him and executed him. They usually try to talk around that but it's no use. The Iraq War, though mismanaged at times, was the right thing to do. Big Media has done a good job of demonizing the good guys, the USA.
12 posted on 07/24/2010 7:06:59 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: LSUfan

This is what pisses me off about GOP. Their rope-a-dope stategy, throw up your hands to deflect punches, but don’t counterpunch.

GO AFTER THEM . . .PUT THEM ON THE DEFENSIVE . . . they can’t justify their own BS so hold them accountable and call them out.

Sometimes being a good streetfighter is worth it.


13 posted on 07/24/2010 7:08:15 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: LSUfan

>> President Bush’s top political advisor, Karl Rove, said on July 15 that his biggest mistake was not fighting back against Democrats...

You can just stop right there, Karl — because the statement is true not only of America’s involvement in Iraq, but on so many other topics as well.

Not for nothing do they call the GOP the “Stupid Party”.


14 posted on 07/24/2010 7:08:56 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: GourmetDan

Remember back to 2004, Rove’s behind-the-scenes mantra was “No More War in ‘04.”

He’ll deny it now, but he was going to his close friend Grover Norquist’s Wednesday meetings telling conservative policy wonks that they needed to get the war off the front pages to be able to push their domestic agenda.

This was by design. It wasn’t a mere mistake. It was an irresponsible miscalculation in which he threw our war effort under the bus for pure politics. And if you look at their “compassionate conservative” domestic policies, it leaves you wondering, “What for?”

And people should remember that part of those politics was immigration “reform,” which Rove is every bit as bad on as Obama, though he ducks the issue now. That too was a serious “mistake,” that wasn’t truly a “mistake,” but a political miscalculation designed to payback Hispanic voters for helping Bush in Texas.


15 posted on 07/24/2010 7:23:01 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Yes, GWB’s shameful attempt to shove amnesty down our throats is an ugly blot on an otherwise fine presidency.


16 posted on 07/24/2010 7:27:52 AM PDT by kevao
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To: LSUfan

The Bush Administration were the world’s worst political communicators. They paved the way for Obama and huge Democrat majorities. Thank you, George and Karl. We really appreciated it.


17 posted on 07/24/2010 7:29:06 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: LSUfan

If this wasn’t obvious 6 years ago to anyone paying attention, you’d have to be a moron not to realize this in 2010. Can you imagine I’mANutJob and Saddam in an all-out sprint to acquire nukes? Given how hapless Obama has been in even being able to slow down Iran’s dash to acquire a nuclear capability, the notion he could have successfully “contained” the allegedly “boxed-in” Saddam is ludicrous.

As bad as the situation already is in the Middle East, it would be an order of magnitude worse with Saddam still in power. Of course, you will never get Obama, Biden, Pelosi or other war critics to ever concede this point.


18 posted on 07/24/2010 7:47:26 AM PDT by DrC
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To: originalbuckeye; DrC
Who would you recommend to take the helm in Iraq now that Saddam is gone?

Face it, the country needs a dictator to keep it under control. A moderate won't cut it. Right now, there is a huge schism between the Sunni and the Shia. Al-Maliki won't give up his seat as the Prime Minister, even though Allawi narrowly won the elections last March. Al-Maliki is in the Iranian camp, yet he is seen by some in the region as being pro-US.

Allawi, who is secular and pro-US, is holding meetings with al-Sadr in Damascus <-think Syrian influence here.

The entire regime is corrupt, from the bottom to the top, and it's a wreck.

Saddam may have been a tyrant and a piece of crap, but he was a known quantity in the region.

19 posted on 07/24/2010 8:06:02 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: griswold3

Amen.

I agree with every word you posted.


20 posted on 07/24/2010 8:19:26 AM PDT by jazminerose
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