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Officials know nothing of rumored Zeta standoff on Mines Road (Hoax)
Laredo Morning Times ^ | July 24, 2010 | Nick Georgiou

Posted on 07/24/2010 4:13:26 PM PDT by epithermal

Local law enforcement was bombarded with calls from across the country Saturday asking about a report that the Zetas had taken over two ranches off Mines Road.

But officials with the Laredo Police Department, Webb County Sheriff’s Department and Border Patrol said they knew nothing about such an incident, while Erik Vasys, an FBI spokesman in San Antonio, said the agency does not comment on rumors.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; drugcartel; illegalaliens; laredo; loszetas; mexico; texas; zeta; zetas
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1 posted on 07/24/2010 4:13:27 PM PDT by epithermal
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To: epithermal

BS


2 posted on 07/24/2010 4:14:37 PM PDT by bt579 (Let's put an end...to the Dems...in 2010.)
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To: epithermal

Maybe it was the OTHER type of illegal aliens?


3 posted on 07/24/2010 4:15:15 PM PDT by Pavegunner72
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To: epithermal

the location of the ranches seem odd to me. The Rio Grande runsnearly north and south through Laredo/Nuevo Laredo.

1472 (I believe)as the location of the ranch is nearly within the urban development area of Laredo.


4 posted on 07/24/2010 4:15:55 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: epithermal
"...FBI spokesman in San Antonio, said the agency does not comment on rumors."

But the Agency is happy to conclude and broadcast "Nope, no terrorism here" whenever possible as soon as the rumor hits.

5 posted on 07/24/2010 4:24:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: epithermal

The three monkeys are at it again!


6 posted on 07/24/2010 4:27:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: epithermal

7 posted on 07/24/2010 4:30:41 PM PDT by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be considered racist...")
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To: Paladin2

Well if the cartels ever came out against Obama I’m sure they would be branded as racist terrorist gun-clingers.


8 posted on 07/24/2010 4:34:45 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: epithermal

It is posted on the blog Diggers Realm, run by Dan Amato. Let him tell it: http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/


9 posted on 07/24/2010 4:34:57 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Airforce Sister

Ping.


10 posted on 07/24/2010 4:35:27 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: epithermal

Posted on Diggers Realm:

“I am receiving many messages of concern that they don’t believe that the story of the Los Zetas seizing multiple ranches in Laredo, Texas is true. They keep questioning the confirmation. They question why there are no visuals or pictures. “Where is the video!” they scream. So I will address those issues in this post.

First, let me clarify that I was also skeptical of the story when I initially heard word. It is certainly not because there haven’t been armed intrusions into the United States before from Mexico. There have been a ton in the last decade, but there have not been any where they would hold onto a position. They usually leave after a standoff or upon discovery.

The situation has become different in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico over the last few days. There have been gun-battles through the streets and fragmentation grenades used as the government of Mexico tries to run the Los Zetas out of their stronghold there. People died and were wounded. The city was on lockdown and the US government issued warnings to US citizens in the area to remain indoors. With our lack of border security and porous borders, it is not beneath my intellect to believe that the Los Zetas could be forced into a retreat into US territory and attempt to seize a hideout.

Not only that, but “first contact” with me of the initial story was from none other than Jeff Schwilk, founder of the San Diego Minutemen, who had a confirmed source in the area of Laredo. With this in mind I decided to go with the story, but to remain cautious. I clearly stated on the story that it was not 100% confirmed. It remained that way all night.

I put out my feelers throughout the night to try and collect information and other credible sources to confirm the occupation of ranches in Laredo. I did not receive actual confirmation until this morning when I got word that Kimberly Dvorak of the Examiner had made multiple confirmations within the Laredo Police Department. Up until this point the story had not spread wide. There was no reason for the Laredo Police Department to crack down hard and keep things truly blacked out as there was no heavy interest from media.

However, upon that second confirmation and her running her story “Los Zetas drug cartel seizes 2 U.S. ranches in Texas” the story to me at that point was 100% confirmed. I changed my story to reflect that and released it to the world - spreading it wide. It has since gone viral.

Since that time many journalists have tried to get information from law enforcement in the area. With the flood of calls to the Laredo Police Department, others are now starting to receive dodgy kind of answers to their questions. This leads me to believe that there may indeed by a bona-fide news blackout as they try to resolve the situation.

We do have people looking into it and digging further; other things behind the scenes are going on for additional confirmation other than the current sources.

The question remains, what is a news blackout and why would it occur?

A news blackout is basically an order from the top down to disavow any knowledge of a situation or story. Deflect, disavow and deny. There are many reasons for this. They range from the legitimate tactical reasoning to the downright nefarious “cover up” reasoning.

Tactical reasoning is an easy one. It is so they can perform their duties with minimal intrusion. That one is very simple to understand.

Let us analyze the nefarious reasons though just for the heck of it shall we?

1. This would make the Obama Administration look horrible. Their lack of security along the border is well known. A breech of national security this large would create a firestorm of anger at the administration. Their aims to pass an amnesty for illegal aliens would be shot to pieces and all of their arguments against building true security in the form of a fence would go down with it. This would have ramifications in the upcoming November elections for congress.

2. There is currently a gubernatorial race going on in Texas. The current sitting governor, Rick Perry, is looked at as being weak on immigration. He stood up for in-state tuition for illegal aliens and has done little to crack down - or push for a crackdown - on illegal immigration in his state. This would destroy his “tough guy” and “tough on crime image”.

3. Local congressional races in Texas. As everyone knows all of the members of The House are up for election. Some of those are open borders supporters. This breach of security would show that their continued fight against closing down the border in any way is flawed logic (as if it took this story to actually show that - the same story could happen again tomorrow).

4. Local sheriffs and elected officials could be made to look bad. There could have been mistakes made during operations that they don’t want revealed. Or they could have not been properly prepared for them and this intrusion showed their incompetence.

5. Businesses. It’s no secret that some agriculture and other businesses use low-skilled illegal alien labor to operate. They do this to avoid taxes so that they can make a hefty profit and avoid all of the hassles of insurance and the like. Strong business interests and wealthy individuals with influence could bring their power to bear down and cover things up to keep their cheap labor flowing.

6. General corruption. Some people in our government are beholden to or on the take from the cartels, Los Zetas or the Mexican government itself. After all, we seem to hear stories daily of someone or another being busted for being on the take. Imagine how many actually are on the take and just haven’t been discovered.

Those are most of the nefarious reasons that I can think off of the top of my head as to why it would be covered up or blacked out.

I don’t truly believe any of them.

Let me make that entirely clear.

I don’t truly believe any of them.

I believe there is a blackout because local law enforcement and the Border Patrol are waiting for backup and authorization from the Federal Government to make any moves. Something like this does have cross border and international impacts. Things like that generally are handled by the federal government, as that is the primary reason we have a federal government in the first place.

The situation is relatively young and if they have the Los Zetas contained in one spot, there really is no reason to go all cowboy and charge into an unknown situation.

This sums up the current state of the situation and the path of how the story broke. I have no other knowledge at this time that is not contained here. We will find out soon the extent of this situation as it develops further. As I stated in the article - and it still remains - we don’t know if it’s only several members or a squad.

The story is still developing and I’ll report more as I find out...”


11 posted on 07/24/2010 4:37:04 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: epithermal

There was a story a while back about the US branch of the Zetas buying a ranch near Laredo to train on. I think that’s the genesis of this story, and the current version is just an example of the “telephone game” at its worst.


12 posted on 07/24/2010 4:38:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: sinanju

Coverup? Good post and link.


13 posted on 07/24/2010 4:38:37 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Obama golfed while the Gulf gushed.)
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To: sinanju

The Tea Party website has been hacked and is down. They have been trying to report this and have been able to get the message out on Facebook.


14 posted on 07/24/2010 4:40:49 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: sinanju

“At about 4:30 p.m., Maru De La Paz, spokeswoman for Webb County Sheriff’s Office, wrote that the report about Zetas taking over ranches in Laredo is not confirmed.”

Saying something is ‘not confirmed’ is not a denial..it’s a news blackout imho. I would say that something is up, but what is hard to tell.


15 posted on 07/24/2010 4:42:14 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Well if the cartels ever came out against Obama I’m sure they would be branded as racist terrorist gun-clingers.

Wrong, they would be racist, terrorist, gun-clingers, tea-baggers.

16 posted on 07/24/2010 4:48:19 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: RDTF

So the Tea Party is under attack by terrorist left wing radical groups? I’m not being funny. It’s a terrorist attack. They would consider us terrorists if we did the same thing


17 posted on 07/24/2010 4:50:31 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: sinanju

“Their aims to pass an amnesty for illegal aliens would be shot to pieces and all of their arguments against building true security in the form of a fence would go down with it.”

That’s the key as to what happens with this story.


18 posted on 07/24/2010 4:53:29 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: epithermal

Fpr what it is worth:

http://thearizonalawmanandphoenixpolicegazette.com/breaking-multiple-ranches-in-laredo-tx-taken-over-by-los-zetas-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax-hoax-%E2%80%93-hoax/

The Arizona Lawman’s News and The Phoenix Police Gazette has just finished an exhaustive telephonic inquiry into the reports of an invasion by the notorious Mexican Narco Terrorists Group Los Zetas, into the US in the Laredo Texas area.

Neither the; Laredo Texas Police Department, The Webb County Sheriff’s Office, The Texas Department of Public Safety, nor the US Border Patrol for the Laredo Area can substantiate any of these reports. They report that they have been inundated with queries of concern but that there is no basis in fact to this story, to the best of their knowledge.

Neither CBS, KGNS, KHFTX, KLDO, nor TV-Azteca (All Laredo Texas TV Stations) can substantiate any of these reports.

While there appears to be some hearsay (He said that she said, that someone told her; Ya-da-Ya-da-Ya- da.) At this point in time, I can find no factual information to back up this wild and interesting story.

I will keep checking diligently but until then – well it looks like a HOAX!

I find it more than a little curious that this flap began as the left-wing bloggers meet in Las Vegas – coincidence? You make the call!

As far as I can tell, this story is filled with what is so commonly found on the ranches in Texas: BULL SHIT!

HOAX – HOAX – HOAX – HOAX – HOAX – HOAX- HOAX – HOAX – HOAX- HOAX – HOAX


19 posted on 07/24/2010 4:53:33 PM PDT by deport
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To: epithermal
"Maru De La Paz, spokeswoman for Webb County Sheriff’s Office, wrote that the report about Zetas taking over ranches in Laredo is not confirmed."

It should be a relatively elemental matter for a Webb County Deputy to drive out to the ranches in question and resolve the matter one way or the other. Instead, no one seems capable of either definitively confirming or denying the reports. Nor do they seem interested in doing anything except to plead ignorance. Someone is lying, and they need to be exposed and to pay a heavy price for their deceit.

20 posted on 07/24/2010 4:56:49 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS

If this is a takeover, who the heck owns (deed) the ranch(es)? I’d want ‘em off my ranch, pronto.


21 posted on 07/24/2010 4:59:59 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, while you were sleeping the Socialists took over.)
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To: YHAOS

I agree...something doesn’t smell right here. They are not saying this story is false in any unequivocal manner at all.


22 posted on 07/24/2010 5:02:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: deport

on Facebook: Tea Party Patriots: LAREDO UPDATE: Fox News Reporting border violence between two cartels in Nuevo Laredo, possible spillover unconfirmed.


23 posted on 07/24/2010 5:02:45 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: epithermal

Send in the AF to have a look see.


24 posted on 07/24/2010 5:04:48 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: RDTF

In other news from the wide open border:

Mexico police find 51 in mass grave near Monterrey

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE66N2D920100724


25 posted on 07/24/2010 5:06:42 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: deport
or some kind of RAT set up like crying wolf...
26 posted on 07/24/2010 5:06:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: deport

OK, it’s been ruled a hoax by an out of state blog.

Wouldn’t put it past Los Zetas anyway, they had a running gun battle with our deputies a while back and we’re 170 miles from Laredo


27 posted on 07/24/2010 5:07:11 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: epithermal

28 posted on 07/24/2010 5:08:04 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: RDTF

Yes there is border violence and possible spill over at times. In fact Laredo had a bullet or two break windows on their side of the border just a few days ago. But that doesn’t transcrib into the taking over Texas ranches. That would be big news and couldn’t be supressed imo. Where are the owners of these taken over ranches? Where is Gov Perry as this would be a Texas State violation of private property.

Another article has these ranches some 10 miles NW of Laredo and in the same para had the location South of Laredo. They can’t even keep their landscape correct.


29 posted on 07/24/2010 5:10:08 PM PDT by deport
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To: Jane Long; All

This 10,000 acre spread is very near the area in question:

http://www.deerleaselaredo.com/

If I were a reporter down there, I would contact the landowners in the area to get info instead of the police.


30 posted on 07/24/2010 5:14:56 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Conflicting stories re: the Zetas taking over a ranch near Laredo.


31 posted on 07/24/2010 5:15:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: deport

FYI..from what I know of this part of Texas, many of the ranches are leased out for hunting and people don’t live on them 365. It is very rugged out there. Not real familar with Laredo, but the Del Rio area is like that. Googling around with Google Earth I found a 10,000 acre lease very near this area. There might not be anyone out on the lease this time of year.


32 posted on 07/24/2010 5:18:54 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: penelopesire

I just went to the Laredo Times website and the locals are pissed that apparently none of the “journalists” there have taken the time to ride out to the site and verify one way or the other whether or not the zetas are there!!


33 posted on 07/24/2010 5:20:35 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: deport

I believe the article said there were TWO ranches so why couldn’t they be miles apart, one NW and one South?


34 posted on 07/24/2010 5:23:08 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: penelopesire; Jane Long

When definitive answers are not forthcoming (”unequivocal” was the word you used) from government officials, the usual reason involves a coverup of some stripe. EVERYONE knows this. So, why can we not get an unequivocal answer to a simple question easily confirmed? Your guess is as good as mine.


35 posted on 07/24/2010 5:24:30 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: epithermal

Our national security is in the hands of Sergeant Schultz.


36 posted on 07/24/2010 5:30:41 PM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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To: epithermal

37 posted on 07/24/2010 5:39:18 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: rodguy911

Maybe the reporters don’t want to be in the obituaries.


38 posted on 07/24/2010 5:39:36 PM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: rodguy911

They are all probably corrupt or intimidated. Welcome to life on the border now. This is really sad and scary. My son went to a large ranch near Del Rio and the border a few week-ends ago. I worried about he and his friends the whole time they were gone. They ended up in a flash flood, but came home safe and sound. It’s really getting out of hand down there. Texas isn’t as bad as Arizona yet but it’s getting there.


39 posted on 07/24/2010 5:42:47 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: epithermal

Our “officials” are always the last to know anything. You can even tell them something; and, they still don’t know. Arrogance and stupidity is a terrible combination.


40 posted on 07/24/2010 5:47:02 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: IM2MAD

Who knows what the truth is as it is confusing to me. I am going by this posting which states the following:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2558447/posts?page=42#42

The approximate location of the U.S. ranches are10 miles northwest of I-35 off Mines Road and Minerales Annex Road. Just off 1472 (Mines road) near Santa Isabel Creek south of the city of Laredo, Texas.


41 posted on 07/24/2010 5:48:50 PM PDT by deport
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To: sinanju

Since they don’t know anything, fire at will everyone, nothing lives. When the wind shifts south, start a big grassfire. Nobody knows anything.


42 posted on 07/24/2010 5:54:16 PM PDT by BobS
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To: wiggen

Rumors are some here have made phone calls to area S.Tex. locals and they are quite reserved to say the least, neither confirming or denying much.


43 posted on 07/24/2010 5:59:56 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: penelopesire

THe regime weighs everything by its poltical impact. I surmise there is no difference with this one either.


44 posted on 07/24/2010 6:01:18 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: deport

I wonder if anyone has goggle/earthed these two ranches yet,proably too late for that.


45 posted on 07/24/2010 6:02:44 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: epithermal
" i went out there but BP would not let us through....a trailer load of corpse was seen in the background......ambulances, fbi, lpd, sheriffs, bp, us marshalls, and the army were out there....cant say for sure what happened

Now that was funny, you have to admit.

46 posted on 07/24/2010 6:07:12 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: epithermal
looks pretty convincing here though
47 posted on 07/24/2010 6:16:22 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Where the hell is the rest of the local media on this story!!(silly question I guess)it should not be that had to either confirm or affirm the truth by simply riding out there!!


48 posted on 07/24/2010 6:20:32 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: epithermal

Anderson Cooper and Rachel Madcow should go visit those 2 ranches and tell us the truth about what is going on there. That is, if they are still able to tell tales after the visit.


49 posted on 07/24/2010 6:30:16 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: epithermal

I am the Admin of the Stand With Arizona page on Facebook (339,000 members). We called the police, some tea party folks and the local NBC affiliate this morning, and quickly dismissed the story. We then saw nearly every immigration-related page on FB run with the blog story as fact. We still consider it an unfounded rumor until proven otherwise.


50 posted on 07/24/2010 6:33:43 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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