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No Proof in New Black Panther Case: Official (No Evidence Supports Charges by Right-Wingers)
CBS News ^ | 7/25/10 | David S Morgan

Posted on 07/25/2010 10:53:20 AM PDT by Libloather

No Proof in New Black Panther Case: Official
Says No Evidence Supports Charges by Right-Wingers That Obama Admin. Refuses to Prosecute Blacks for Breaking Vote Laws
By David S Morgan
WASHINGTON, July 25, 2010

(CBS) A Bush appointee to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights denounced allegations by some pundits that the Justice Department is refusing to pursue a voting rights case against members of the New Black Panther Party because of race, and suggested that the charges being made by right-wing figures are politically motivated.

Conservative broadcasters and websites have claimed that the Obama administration is dropping prosecution of New Black Panther activists who were videotaped outside a Philadelphia polling station on Election Day 2008, making intimidating remarks; one man was carrying a nightstick.

Earlier this month former Justice Department lawyer and Republican activist J. Christian Adams testified to the commission that senior officials in the department are not applying voting rights laws in a race-neutral way, by refusing to press charges against African Americans on these issues.

A recent Media Matters investigation has debunked charges that the Obama administration withdrew criminal charges against the Panthers (in fact, the Bush administration decided not to pursue criminal charges, with Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez testifying that the Bush Justice Department "determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes"; a civil lawsuit was filed in the last days of the Bush administration, and a judgment won by the Obama Justice Department in May 2009).

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: black; elections; evidence; mediamatterslies; nbpp; obama; panther; panthers; proof; voting
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Abigail Thernstrom, Vice Chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, on "Face the Nation," Sunday, July 25, 2010. (Chris Usher/CBS)
1 posted on 07/25/2010 10:53:22 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Good Luck with that baldfaced lie.


2 posted on 07/25/2010 10:57:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Libloather

“No Evidence”??? Video of thugs with clubs threatening voters is “no evidence”?? I think Abigail has some jungle fever.


3 posted on 07/25/2010 10:58:45 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Libloather

No proof? They have verifiable witnesses (and on tape). Just look at them!!!-


4 posted on 07/25/2010 10:59:10 AM PDT by dgkb
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To: Libloather

Does this mean that I should wear a helmet to the polls this fall. Or conversely, would it then be OK for me to stand in front of a polling place with military garb and a nightstick?

I do wish someone would ask these people that.


5 posted on 07/25/2010 10:59:10 AM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: Libloather
Try driving past a polling place with a flag in your pickup rear window , and there will be no doubt at DOJ regarding your intent.


6 posted on 07/25/2010 10:59:34 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Libloather
Here's an excellent piece ripping Abigail.

The Case Against the New Black Panthers (McCarthy rips "conservatve" Abigail Thernstrom & DOJ)

7 posted on 07/25/2010 11:00:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Libloather

That’s a couple bags of BS.


8 posted on 07/25/2010 11:00:55 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Libloather
What about statements, one from a black poll watcher and the statement from a former Clinton Admin.appointee (not exactly a right winger)who watched the video and declared it the worst case of voter intimidation he had ever seen.

This woman is a typical RINO (if she even is a Repub) in the mold of Juan McPain--they can never come out and call a Dem or black on any action for fear of being called right wing or racist.

IT WAS INTIMIDATION!

vaudine

9 posted on 07/25/2010 11:01:05 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: ProfoundMan

Now, now. CBS has made it’s determination based upon an investigation by the always unbiased Media Matters.


10 posted on 07/25/2010 11:02:19 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Libloather

Remember how that other Mafia used to go to lengths to announce that there was no such thing as the Mafia?


11 posted on 07/25/2010 11:03:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ProfoundMan
Does this mean that I should wear a helmet to the polls this fall. Or conversely, would it then be OK for me to stand in front of a polling place with military garb and a nightstick?

Yes, you absolutely should. Although you might want to consider wearing blackface; that way they will know you're making a statement.

12 posted on 07/25/2010 11:05:10 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (668, neighbor of the beast, is tagline enough)
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To: Libloather
Methinks Ms. Abigail Thernstrom has a truthiness problem! Is this considered "false but accurate"??
13 posted on 07/25/2010 11:06:40 AM PDT by Thom Pain (2 + 2 = 4 : Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING! Don't be labeled!)
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To: Libloather

“Republican activist J. Christian Adams”


gotta love the way the media pours out the BS- nevermind a network known for pimping fake documents....so Adams is now a “Republican activist”????


14 posted on 07/25/2010 11:08:47 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Libloather

The two BPP members didn’t actually ‘attack’ anyone.

So, the Justice Department is correct in that there is NO EVIDENCE they physically restrained anyone to keep them from voting.

They were just two ‘black guys’ in a ‘black’ neighborhood trying to ensure that no White people interfered with the black people voting for Obama.

They were simply ‘afraid’ that hordes of white folks were going to come in and pummel black voters with McCAIN/PALIN signs.

HOWEVER..... had this been someone wearing a KKK Hood, standing in front of a voting booth, we know what would have happened.

HAD this been a TEA PARTY member who had any kind of PATCH on their clothing, or had a stick in their hand, we know what would have happened.

They would end up like Erik Scott at the COSTCO in Las Vegas. Where the COPS think that RENO 911 is a TRAINING VIDEO.


16 posted on 07/25/2010 11:22:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: vaudine

Actually he did not just watch the video he was right THERE on the ground when it happened!


17 posted on 07/25/2010 11:22:19 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Libloather

What you going to do about it, cracka?

18 posted on 07/25/2010 11:23:49 AM PDT by PROCON (Independence Day + 21, Let's see how long it lasts!)
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To: Libloather

Liberals are the only people I know of who can look at an unedited video of someone doing something bad and conclude that said event did not happen.


19 posted on 07/25/2010 11:25:51 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Remember how that other Mafia used to go to lengths to announce that there was no such thing as the Mafia?

I remember that once the Mafia infiltrated local/state/regional and Federal offices, the government started announcing that there was no such thing as the Mafia.

20 posted on 07/25/2010 11:25:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Libloather

Perhaps Abigail will see things differently once the Metamucil kicks in.


21 posted on 07/25/2010 11:26:20 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: God luvs America

Ok then...I guess then that the Tea Party can station 2 jack booted thugs at every white predominated voting location and all will be sweetness and light?

Thought so...


22 posted on 07/25/2010 11:27:19 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: Libloather

Useful Idiot.


23 posted on 07/25/2010 11:27:23 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: ozzymandus

So we didn’t see the New Black Panthers waving their batons, dressed in para military garb menacing people at the polling place.

Silly us, we must have been hallucinating.


24 posted on 07/25/2010 11:27:32 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Remember when Communists took over the entertainment industry (Hollywood) and many government offices, and even though McCarthy proved it, the communists kept insisting there was no such thing as communists?


25 posted on 07/25/2010 11:29:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Carley
So we didn’t see the New Black Panthers waving their batons, dressed in para military garb menacing people at the polling place.

Were they 'menacing' (exactly what is that, btw?) one particular race of people, or was it just random?

26 posted on 07/25/2010 11:32:15 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: PROCON

I hope someone gives this guy a dirt nap.


27 posted on 07/25/2010 11:32:37 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Libloather

CBS=Obama Defense Network


28 posted on 07/25/2010 11:35:20 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: jazusamo

This lady is a joke.


29 posted on 07/25/2010 11:36:02 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Libloather
Of course the whistle blower prosecutor who resigned his poosition over it does not know what he is talking about.

Was she paid, or extorted?You never can tell with the Obummer bunch.They have learned the Joseph Goebbels dance well.

30 posted on 07/25/2010 11:36:12 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: Libloather

(Offical Headline as dispensed to news outlets)

No Proof in New Black Panther Case: Official (No Evidence Supports Charges by Right-Wingers)

(What it would say if the ‘wannabe ruling elite’ in our media actually told the truth)

(Under new ORDERS, the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT will no longer accept any Evidence in cases brought by Right-Wingers)


31 posted on 07/25/2010 11:38:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Libloather

Bush appointee, makes sense.


32 posted on 07/25/2010 11:41:17 AM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: Libloather
The real problem by this whole failure is that shoud the NBPP show up at a poll again, no one will call the authorites. The people will handle it themselves, and with historical, factual justification. Is that what Obama wants, riots at the polls?

Why would Obama want riots at the polls , one might ask?

Its a pan to destabilize the electoral process. And you are seeing only a small part of a larger plan to do just that.

Wait until ethnic voters are challenged for ID and citizenship papers, watch what happens then.

33 posted on 07/25/2010 11:41:45 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: The Comedian

Is that not where the phrase, “hoisted by their own petard” comes from?


34 posted on 07/25/2010 11:42:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: ProfoundMan

You wouldn’t even have to say a word.
It wouldn’t be 10 minutes and your azz would be in jail.

BTW, isn’t that guy the same guy saying something on tape about killing cracker babies?


35 posted on 07/25/2010 11:42:48 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Libloather

Wait....didn’t some dept. or commission or something already find them guilty? It was the DOJ that dropped it.


36 posted on 07/25/2010 11:44:14 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Libloather
after all, it was a majority-black precinct that had voted overwhelmingly for Democrats in previous elections.

So the official stance of the Obama administration is that it's OK to intimidate blacks at the polling place? Maybe that should be publicized.
37 posted on 07/25/2010 11:44:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Rational Thought
Now, now. CBS has made it’s determination based upon an investigation by the always unbiased Media Matters.

Shirley Sherrods first interviewer. MM is one of the most vile, pathetic propaganda sites on the web. EVERYone of their debunkings can be easily re-debunked by a fifth grader.

But I guess they're playing to thier readers, like SeeBS, who are second grade level intellect, at best

38 posted on 07/25/2010 11:44:58 AM PDT by digger48 (and)
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To: ozzymandus
She isn't even a good liar. If those had been white men in sheets with clubs and they were within a half mile of a voting booth, the Obastard administration would have invented a "victim" in order to prosecute them.
39 posted on 07/25/2010 11:45:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: vaudine

Come November we will not be intimidated, come November 2012 if he chooses to run again we will not be intimidated.


40 posted on 07/25/2010 11:45:32 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: SeaWolf

Bush’s fault.


41 posted on 07/25/2010 11:46:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: UCANSEE2

Black Republicans were said to have turned away and didn’t vote.


42 posted on 07/25/2010 11:46:57 AM PDT by digger48 (and)
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To: Libloather
LIAR!
43 posted on 07/25/2010 11:48:26 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Libloather

And OJ was not guilty. Of course, I understand. It is perfectly clear.


44 posted on 07/25/2010 11:49:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Actually this woman’s appointment IS Bush’s fault.

liberals win a damned election and the exexcutive branch is filled without exception with the hardest left kooks.

Republicans win one and the executive branch is 3/4s filled with people who want to get along with the hardest left kooks.


45 posted on 07/25/2010 11:50:00 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: UCANSEE2

There was testimony that they had gone inside and menaced a republican challenger. Outside they had commentary going towards whites who left the polling place.

There was testimony about their threats that were documented in the DOJ case. It must be somewhere on line.

To suggest that it is racist to object is ludicrous.

The left is shameless in it’s exploitation of the race issue.


46 posted on 07/25/2010 11:50:13 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: digger48

They should have come out screaming if that happened.


47 posted on 07/25/2010 11:50:26 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Paladin2

The Panthers’ purpose wasn’t just to intimidate the white voters; it was to demonstrate to law-abiding black and white residents that, in Philadelphia, the Panthers are untouchable a proposition the Justice Department has helped them prove.

But what about the Panthers’ intimidating uniforms and jackboots. Don’t be silly, Thernstrom now counters. After all, “the boots were no different from a pair my husband owns.” Oh, I see: How could anyone think these friendly Panthers who were heard telling spectators, “You’re about to be ruled by the black man, cracker” were any more intimidating than . . . Stephan Thernstrom, That’s the first thing that popped into my head upon reading about Panther leader King Samir Shabazz serenading blacks with enticements like, “want freedom? You’re gonna have to kill some crackers! You’re gonna have to kill some of their babies!”


48 posted on 07/25/2010 11:51:10 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Libloather

These guys? Oh, these guys....they are men who did not have time to change clothes from their Halloween party a few days before - that's not a night stick - it's a super sized clark bar /sarc

49 posted on 07/25/2010 11:51:43 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Libloather
"A recent Media Matters investigation has debunked charges ..."

Since when is 'Media Matters' in charge of federal investigations?

50 posted on 07/25/2010 11:53:51 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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