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Reports: Pakistan spy service aids insurgents (Wikileaks)
New York Times via MSNBC ^ | 7/25/2010 | by Mark Mazzetti, Jane Perlez, Eric Schmitt and Andrew W. Lehren

Posted on 07/25/2010 6:29:49 PM PDT by mainsail that

Americans fighting the war in Afghanistan have long harbored strong suspicions that Pakistan’s military spy service has guided the Afghan insurgency with a hidden hand, even as Pakistan receives more than $1 billion a year from Washington for its help combating the militants, according to a trove of secret military field reports to be made public Sunday.

The documents, to be made available by an organization called WikiLeaks, suggest that Pakistan, an ostensible ally of the United States, allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Talibanin secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders.

Taken together, the reports indicate that American soldiers on the ground are inundated with accounts of a network of Pakistani assets and collaborators that runs from the Pakistani tribal belt along the Afghan border, through southern Afghanistan, and all the way to the capital, Kabul.

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1 posted on 07/25/2010 6:29:52 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: mainsail that

Wow! I am shocked. It is painfully obvious that our intelligence community has plunged to the bottom of the sea. There needs to be a major house cleaning, as well as a strategy session on how future operations are going to be protected. The biggest problem with our agency is fear of political backlash, and possible criminal convictions. This is a HUGE kick in the gut for every American that is serving in the military or civil service capacity. Whoever this “mole” is needs to be found, tried, and executed swiftly.


2 posted on 07/25/2010 6:45:02 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: mainsail that

BTTT


3 posted on 07/25/2010 6:48:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: mainsail that

Adding to my last post, it seems the only thing we can count on now is a tactical nuclear attack on Pakistan by India. India probably had the clout to do it after the Mumbai attacks, but we probably waived them off.


4 posted on 07/25/2010 6:49:09 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: mainsail that

:duh:

IdiotNYT just getting around to figuring this *hit out?!
Please shut your doors already, kkthx. =.=


5 posted on 07/25/2010 6:49:48 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Stayfrosty

Nothing new at all. This leaker is known, and arrested, if I’m not very mistaken.


6 posted on 07/25/2010 6:52:09 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Can the CIA do anything about this Assange guy who runs wikileaks? He doesn’t fall under the “foreign leader” category.


7 posted on 07/25/2010 6:54:07 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: mainsail that

Why is any one shocked by this news?

Pakistan’s ISI was the “Godfather” behind creation of Taliban in the first place.

Any dad will always lookout for their progeny. Unless he is a “bad dad”.

ISI is just trying to be a good daddy.


8 posted on 07/25/2010 6:56:11 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: mainsail that

Not exactly a revelation - we were reading about the ISI on FR years ago.


9 posted on 07/25/2010 6:58:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Stayfrosty

“Can the CIA do anything about this Assange guy who runs wikileaks? He doesn’t fall under the “foreign leader” category.”

He’s part of the press so he is kinda safe from CIA but I can’t imagine a Russian or an Middle eastern agency having such constraints.


10 posted on 07/25/2010 7:00:03 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: mainsail that

What a big surprise? Not to anyone who knows anything about Pakistan.


11 posted on 07/25/2010 7:10:19 PM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: pepperdog

The documents perhaps. With what I understand:
Pakistan fears Pashtunistan, now they’re just ‘devout Muslims’ and tribal customs are replaced with Islamic ones.

India and wants to use the Talibs against India if need be. Imagine a million fanatics on your side ready to die


12 posted on 07/25/2010 7:13:31 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

13 posted on 07/25/2010 7:15:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Stayfrosty

Thats what we should do. India would love to roll over Pakistan. India is peaceful nation and knows that Pakistan is corrupt.

We need to get India into this...


14 posted on 07/25/2010 8:12:44 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Stayfrosty
Can the CIA do anything about this Assange guy who runs wikileaks? He doesn’t fall under the “foreign leader” category.

The agencies won't do anything. And wikileaks is distributed and mirrored, and difficult to get at. I just downloaded the whole heap, in three different formats. 16 megs each. Seems wikileaks is pretty much swamped with traffic.

15 posted on 07/25/2010 8:27:52 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: mainsail that
There are persistent rumors from the tinfoil hat crowd that WikiLeaks is actually a US government run honeypot operation to vet out security leaks (and get other people's security leaks). I'm sure some of the conspiracy crowd will say most of the information in those documents are full of false information just to deceive the enemy--based on how the British Secret Service ran a LOT of "honeypot" operations during World War II that totally fooled Nazi intelligence--including the legendary Operation Mincemeat involving a real dead man.
16 posted on 07/25/2010 9:25:14 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: mainsail that; SunkenCiv; G8 Diplomat; Saberwielder; Dog

From NYT:
“one report describes an ISI plan to use a remote-controlled bomb disguised as a golden Koran to assassinate Afghan government officials.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/world/asia/26isi.html

Can we expect demonstrations in the Arab countries as ISI was planning to destroy the Koran?


17 posted on 07/26/2010 3:37:12 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

I found a comment by Barron Laycock that is worth repeating:

“At the risk of repeating myself, we were warned by historians such as John Keegan in the fall of 2001 that the only rational policy toward an incursion into Afghanistan was “to jump in, kill the bad guys, and get out”. we did the first, then Mr Bush faltered when he had the Taliban and Al Quaida cornered at Bora Bora in December 2001 and stood down for 96 hours at the request of Pakistani security who wanted to “get their people out”. As a result the remaining Al Quaida and Taliban forces were allowed to escape, some on the same planes that came in to carry off Pakistani operatives. Then we decided to engage in democracy building. so by violating the second and third elements of Keegan’s sage advice, we deliberately chose to get mired in an extended land war in Asia. Again! This has be mentioned again and again, it seems, to help remind people why we are where we are in terms of the conflict. It is not going to get any better. We need to fold up our tents and let the Afghans work it out on their own.”


18 posted on 07/26/2010 4:45:07 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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But, I do not fully agree with him, no withdrawal now.


19 posted on 07/26/2010 6:13:25 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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