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Afghanistan war logs: Story behind biggest leak in intelligence history
Guardian ^ | JUly 25, 2010 | Nick Davies

Posted on 07/26/2010 9:42:49 AM PDT by lbryce

US authorities have known for weeks that they have suffered a haemorrhage of secret information on a scale which makes even the leaking of the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam war look limited by comparison.

The Afghan war logs, from which the Guardian reports today, consist of 92,201 internal records of actions by the US military in Afghanistan between January 2004 and December 2009 – threat reports from intelligence agencies, plans and accounts of coalition operations, descriptions of enemy attacks and roadside bombs, records of meetings with local politicians, most of them classified secret.

The Guardian's source for these is Wikileaks, the website which specialises in publishing untraceable material from whistleblowers, which is simultaneously publishing raw material from the logs.

Washington fears it may have lost even more highly sensitive material including an archive of tens of thousands of cable messages sent by US embassies around the world, reflecting arms deals, trade talks, secret meetings and uncensored opinion of other governments.

Wikileaks' founder, Julian Assange, says that in the last two months they have received yet another huge batch of "high-quality material" from military sources and that officers from the Pentagon's criminal investigations department have asked him to meet them on neutral territory to help them plug the sequence of leaks. He has not agreed to do so.

Behind today's revelations lie two distinct stories: first, of the Pentagon's attempts to trace the leaks with painful results for one young soldier; and second, a unique collaboration between the Guardian, the New York Times and Der Spiegel magazine in Germany to sift the huge trove of data for material of public interest and to distribute globally this secret record of the world's most powerful nation at war.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanwar; governmentsecret; intelligence; july; leaks; treason
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As much as I loath reading, linking to the Guardian, this article reveals in graphic detail the extent in which this misbegotten sc*mbag has so damaged the US on a scale that makes the Pentagon Papers look limited by comparison.

Is an administration with a history of anti-war sentiments going to move in arresting, prosecuting someone who many among Obama's coterie of left-wings feel philosphically akin to? I doubt it.

Will this treasonous turd escape any consequencess for the way he has so egregiously damaged the US?

1 posted on 07/26/2010 9:42:55 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

How much you want to bet that Obambi hisself is behind this?


2 posted on 07/26/2010 9:45:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: lbryce
"Wikileaks' founder, Julian Assange..."

This person needs to be arrested now, and tried for treason. Imprison him and throw away the key.

3 posted on 07/26/2010 9:47:38 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mr. K

Nah, couldn’t be. Why would someone who was/is a fan of Daniel Ellsberg be leased to see this information outed.


4 posted on 07/26/2010 9:48:17 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: Windflier

But who gave them to Julian? Someone in our military had to get it out of the internal system.


5 posted on 07/26/2010 9:49:12 AM PDT by edcoil (There has got to be a better way.)
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To: lbryce

I used to have a TS clearance. If I even released one paper, I would have been sent to Leavenworth Prison for life. All this stinks.


6 posted on 07/26/2010 9:50:21 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: edcoil
If I am not mistaken all the documents are pre Obama administration.

I got a feeling this came from high up the food chain.

7 posted on 07/26/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: lbryce

what do you expect from radicals who believe the US is evil, the US govt is oppressive, and national secrets are classified only to hide America’s shameful conduct?

This is obamas own belief. This is what he was raised to believe, his entire life. These are the views of the people he chose as asociates his entire life. His “friends” at Columbia and Chicago. The Ayers family. His minister.

His wife.

This is an iceberg but not the only iceberg out there.
Lord help our nation. Things have been done that cannot be undone and the damage to national security is continuing and accelerating. The entire US congress, both parties, the cabinet, the courts, our traditional “allies”- all complicit by action or inaction.

The obamites appointed legions of angry revenge-seeking and/or naive people as bureaucrats throughout our govt, and awakened the fervor of moles who spent the previous 8 years hating and undermining President Bush and all our national agencies.


8 posted on 07/26/2010 9:53:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: mware

I know how I would stop it. I would do some waterboarding and some “ accidents” would start happening to the leakers, with just enough info on the “accidents” leaked that anyone would think twice before thinking about leaking anything else.


9 posted on 07/26/2010 9:54:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: lbryce

This is Treason folks. and the punishment for Treason is death.


10 posted on 07/26/2010 9:55:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mr. K
Of course the Kenyan Hussein is behind this...he does not want to fight in Afghanistan, never has.

He wants to fight the Patriots in America.

11 posted on 07/26/2010 9:56:08 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: lbryce

Wilson, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan or TR would have had this guy hauled off weeks ago as a threat to national security, and any or all of them would have had this guy shot. TR likely would have done it himself.


12 posted on 07/26/2010 9:58:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: rbosque

Did you read the WP article last week on US Intelligence? Wonder what your thoughts were?I was amazed to read that about 900,000 hold TS clearance...makes it almost worthless, on some level..only way to “protect” info then is to compartmentalize it to such an extent that it then almost never ends up getting to the people who need it..


13 posted on 07/26/2010 10:00:02 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: silverleaf

bingo


14 posted on 07/26/2010 10:00:27 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Windflier

“Wikileaks’ founder, Julian Assange...”

This person needs to be arrested now, and tried for treason. Imprison him and throw away the key.

IIRC he is not even an American citizen


15 posted on 07/26/2010 10:02:36 AM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: lbryce

I’m not accusing anyone of anything, but I will point out that 0bama has a vested interest in turning the focus of his failed efforts in Afghanistan back onto Bush, both for the November elections and to cover a unilateral withdrawal. The left wing of his party is pressing him hard for the latter and he’s feeling the heat. If it isn’t settled by 2012 he’s a goner...unless the “Bush’s fault” mantra is good for just one more use by then.


16 posted on 07/26/2010 10:03:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: edcoil
cable messages sent by US embassies around the world

Our corrupt state dept...

17 posted on 07/26/2010 10:03:51 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: mware

The article except says December 2009.


18 posted on 07/26/2010 10:04:00 AM PDT by listenhillary (America is filled with idiots who voted for change. They are the ones we need to worry about.)
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To: listenhillary
Or maybe the article excerpt
19 posted on 07/26/2010 10:06:05 AM PDT by listenhillary (America is filled with idiots who voted for change. They are the ones we need to worry about.)
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To: roses of sharon
"Of course the Kenyan Hussein is behind this...he does not want to fight in Afghanistan, never has."

this is his 'out' for Afghanistan. Now we can leave in disgrace. No more worrying about how to 'win'.

20 posted on 07/26/2010 10:07:09 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: listenhillary
Remember the 7 CIA agents and a couple of Brits...That was Dec 2009.

Always said there was a traitor/double agent among the 7.

21 posted on 07/26/2010 10:08:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Billthedrill
...unless the “Bush’s fault” mantra is good for just one more use by then.

For all its worth... Obuttboy should just blame George Washington! Nobody cares what Bush did. The moron class elected The Failed Obama Administration© to clean up some imagined "mess." Well, Ice cream cone chomper in chief... clean up the alleged mess. They hired Obama to fix "problems." So far... nothing. But, why would anyone ever expect a kid with no executive experience to be able to fix such complex situations? Fools, all. Idiots elect a government and then blame the predecessor...

22 posted on 07/26/2010 10:09:29 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ken5050

Compartmentalization/SAP for its own sake is generally not an idea that I favor. Comparmentalization/SAP is often done for the wrong reasons: hide the funding/purpose from Congress (arguably both good and bad depending on who’s in charge), hiding efforts/plans from the enemy (good thing), because of fear that colateral protection methods are not secure enough (i.e., under control of DSS and NISPOM), or rightly because the damage of the material if exposed could cause.

To my mind, each and EVERY person with a TS/SCI clearance should have to undergo lie detector tests yearly and further that the questions also cover patriotism and political affiliations.


23 posted on 07/26/2010 10:09:46 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: rbosque

>I used to have a TS clearance.<

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Aren’t you supposed to kill us now that you revealed that secret?


24 posted on 07/26/2010 10:09:54 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: mainsail that

who funds him


25 posted on 07/26/2010 10:10:10 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The Acting President....is an incompetent puppet of Soros.)
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To: mainsail that
He is an Australian with a criminal background...he used to live in Kenya.
26 posted on 07/26/2010 10:13:04 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Gaffer

We have a huge mess in our security.

Very long, very scary where we are at.

Top Secret America
A hidden world, growing beyond control
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/a-hidden-world-growing-beyond-control/


27 posted on 07/26/2010 10:13:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (Our president is nucking futs)
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To: lbryce

It’s times like this that I wish the fiction of competent CIA hit squads was real. That wikileaks person really ought to be pushing up daisies.


28 posted on 07/26/2010 10:13:56 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: Venturer

If that were true death row would be overcrowded.


29 posted on 07/26/2010 10:14:29 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: Mr. K
Agree.Wiki didn't leak anything - they just passed along the intelligence info leaked by someone in the Administration thru another “useful idiot”.There is more to this than we can imagine.It fits the radical antiwar agenda to a “T”.
30 posted on 07/26/2010 10:15:11 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is hs fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: lbryce
For starters - the DoJ take (as currently posted for another, unrelated release of classified material)

"Willful retention of classified documents carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. Obstruction of justice carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. The charge of making a false statement carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Each of the charged counts carries a maximum fine of $250,000."

For the military - this would be an Article 92 UCMJ violation. AKA TITLE 10, Subtitle A, PART II, CHAPTER 47, SUBCHAPTER X, Section (or paragraph) 892. If the full Court so decides, the death penalty may be assigned.

Side actions against these press outlets for possession / release of classified materials has yet to be seen.

And this kind of behaviour is not limited to the US.

31 posted on 07/26/2010 10:15:15 AM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: listenhillary

Yes,

I’ve been although the series in depth. Traitorism usually is only the result of a limited series of actions. Here, we have a massive, two-year effort to compile a treasure trove of, at it’s minimal impact a breach of operational security, information that is centrally located and open to all, including our enemies....


32 posted on 07/26/2010 10:16:25 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: listenhillary
Dec 2009. That is when Obama finally made his decision regarding troop deloyment.

Can't recall completely but isn't that when the Dems were calling the general Betray-us.

33 posted on 07/26/2010 10:17:03 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: lbryce

Whoever did this should swing from a yardarm.


34 posted on 07/26/2010 10:22:10 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: 353FMG

Ha! Sure, what’s your address? :-)


35 posted on 07/26/2010 10:22:44 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: listenhillary

>We have a huge mess in our security.<

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Sho nuff.

Who are we fighting?
Muslims.

Are there Muslims who have access to highly classified national security data?
Almost certainly.


36 posted on 07/26/2010 10:26:52 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: roses of sharon
He is an Australian with a criminal background...he used to live in Kenya.

Something like that. Assange was an infohacker back in the early 1990's who got caught (an infohacker is a hacker who is interested in information, as compared to the more common profit motivated hackers). He wasn't very good at it, and was small-potatoes enough that he was simply fined after pleading guilty.

As for living in Kenya, the truth is that the guy has lived in a lot of places. He is paranoid to the point of delusion, and constantly moves from country to country because he's convinced that secret agents are trying to kill him.

Then again, since he's made a career out of embarrassing governments worldwide, he might just be onto something with that last idea.
37 posted on 07/26/2010 10:27:46 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: lbryce

This looks like it came from someone who had access to State and military docs. The person would have to be very high up to do this. I suspect that there are several people involved.

It is also possible that they have been sending like docs to others whom we do not wish to have these docs.

This is disastrous.


38 posted on 07/26/2010 10:29:47 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Mr. K

my thoughts exactly! No doubt about it!


39 posted on 07/26/2010 10:31:33 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Mr. K

“How much you want to bet that Obambi hisself is behind this?”

Seeing as none of the documents are dated from the Obama administration I would say it is a good bet.


40 posted on 07/26/2010 10:31:34 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Windflier

Treason? Against Australia? What are the Australian treason laws?


41 posted on 07/26/2010 10:34:26 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: lbryce
Rush made a great point right at the beginning of his show. Where is the Valerie Plame type outrage for those who's lives will be put in danger because of this leaker.

Also don't focus on Wikileaks. They were just the useful tool. Focus on who leaked this info.

42 posted on 07/26/2010 10:35:40 AM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: LS

What guy?


43 posted on 07/26/2010 10:36:18 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Arthalion
Na, it's easy to embarrass lawful, civilized governments that you know will not/can not hurt you.

Until he exposes really dangerous men and regimes worldwide, he is a typical leftwing hack.

44 posted on 07/26/2010 10:38:14 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Treason? Against Australia?

We don't have an extradition treaty with Oz?

45 posted on 07/26/2010 10:39:45 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mainsail that
IIRC he is not even an American citizen

Extradition. Black ops. Something. This cretin needs to pay for this.

46 posted on 07/26/2010 10:41:21 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: edcoil
But who gave them to Julian? Someone in our military had to get it out of the internal system.

Our friends in the Australian intelligence services need to take Julian waterboarding.

47 posted on 07/26/2010 10:43:16 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: texmexis best

“This is disastrous.”

Maybe not. Maybe Assange has done the Amercian public a favor. And if he could get this stuff, then either it is not of much value to our real enemies, or it is already known to them.


48 posted on 07/26/2010 10:46:08 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Windflier

“This cretin needs to pay for this.”

Maybe we should thank him instead. And concentrate on finding the security breach.


49 posted on 07/26/2010 10:48:46 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Windflier

Is he in the USA?


50 posted on 07/26/2010 10:51:51 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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