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MEXICAN TRUCKS: Murray Includes Language in Bill Urging Administration to Act
U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) ^ | July 26, 2010 | U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA)

Posted on 07/26/2010 3:32:56 PM PDT by mdittmar

Sets deadline of October 1, 2010 for Administration to act

(Washington, D.C.) –U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) included language in the Fiscal Year 2011 Transportation, Housing and Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bill that calls on the Administration to put forward a plan that would end retaliatory tariffs on Washington state agricultural products by October 1, 2010. The bill passed the THUD subcommittee, which Murray chairs, as well as the full Appropriations committee, and will now head to the full Senate for consideration.

“I am extremely frustrated that the Administration has not yet acted while farmers across my home state of Washington continue to suffer under Mexico’s retaliatory tariffs,” said Senator Patty Murray. “I am urging both the Obama Administration and the Mexican government to solve this issue and allow Washington state farmers to compete on a level playing field. Since there has been inaction for too long, I included specific language in the transportation spending bill giving the Administration a clear deadline of October 1, 2010 to solve this problem.”

(Excerpt) Read more at murray.senate.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aliens; mexico; murray; nafta; notfreetrade; tariffs
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Sounds racist to me,the "mom in tennis shoes" is profiling.
1 posted on 07/26/2010 3:32:57 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

How do you tell a Mexican truck from an American truck without profiling? /rhet.


2 posted on 07/26/2010 3:34:30 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

LOL—someone should calculate how long it took her to cave to her agricultural/business constituency over her union constituency.


3 posted on 07/26/2010 3:35:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HiJinx

The American trucks are the ones with the brakes, the insurance and the mufflers.


4 posted on 07/26/2010 3:42:08 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama
I'm still chuckling. According to Heritage and govtrack.us, the Mexican tariffs were in retaliation for what occurred on March 11, 2009. According to this press release, she caves on July 26, 2010. LOLOL
5 posted on 07/26/2010 3:42:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: La Lydia

That’s what the Teamsters claimed, at least. Say Union Yes!


6 posted on 07/26/2010 3:44:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: La Lydia; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
The American trucks are the ones with the brakes, the insurance and the mufflers.

LOL!!

7 posted on 07/26/2010 3:45:47 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: La Lydia

Now that they’re using car bombs, Imagine the damage they could do to a “racist” Gringo city with a serious truck bomb.


8 posted on 07/26/2010 3:55:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 1rudeboy
Actually, Mexico was retaliating for what happened in 1996, when Clinton refused to let the MexiTrucks in on schedule.

And then, the NAFTA arbitration panel ruled for Mexico in 2001, two weeks after Bush entered office.

And then, later in 2001, it was the Patty Murry-Richard Shelby amendment to the highway bill that provided the money to the border states to set up the MexiTruck inspection stations along the border.

9 posted on 07/26/2010 3:56:00 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HiJinx

I’m still waiting for reports of the carnage that ensued when we allowed these 107 deathtraps to operate on our highways. Do you think there was a coverup?


10 posted on 07/26/2010 3:56:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Ben Ficklin

No. It was a long-running dispute, but my Heritage link covers it well.


11 posted on 07/26/2010 3:57:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HiJinx; La Lydia
If the trucked is domiciled in Mexico, but the Mexican Trucking company is owned by a US trucking company, would that a Mexican truck or a US truck?
12 posted on 07/26/2010 3:59:25 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Note the date:

Mexico slaps tariffs on U.S. goods in truck feud, Reuters, March 16, 2009.

13 posted on 07/26/2010 3:59:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Ben Ficklin

Distinction without a difference, as the truck must comply with U.S. regulations, regardless.


14 posted on 07/26/2010 4:01:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Ben Ficklin

It’d be a Mexican truck operated by an American company.


15 posted on 07/26/2010 4:01:43 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: HiJinx
LOL Great!
16 posted on 07/26/2010 4:05:13 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: mdittmar

With Mexican truckers, at least the gallon jugs of urine on the side of the road have exotic labels for the highway sanitation workers to read.


17 posted on 07/26/2010 4:06:21 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: 1rudeboy

Must they pay the Mexican Driver the same pay as a gringo?


18 posted on 07/26/2010 4:07:31 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: 1rudeboy; HiJinx

I have lived in Mexico for long periods of time, which I can only assume you haven’t. I was not being factious or siding with the Teamsters, I was pointing out the truth. They have problems remembering to check and service their brakes. Mexican trucks are rarely insured. If there is a wreck, which is frequently, and the driver survives, he gets out and runs away as fast he he can because the Mexicans put you in jail until they sort out liability — because many of them aren’t insured. Mexican trucks, for reasons never explained to me clearly, are two or three times as loud as US trucks. People will not be happy once they are on our roads, regardless of whether they are Teamsters.


19 posted on 07/26/2010 4:09:55 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: 1rudeboy
"as the truck must comply with U.S. regulations"

You would think that would be the case but it is not. Mexican trucks are not allowed into the US even if they meet US regulations.

20 posted on 07/26/2010 4:10:00 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

That’s the current situation, yes (although I’m guessing that we still allow Mexican trucks in the buffer-zone, unless Obama changed that also). This dispute involved Mexican trucks licensed to haul cross-country, that happen to have brakes.


21 posted on 07/26/2010 4:12:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HiJinx
How do you tell a Mexican truck from an American truck without profiling?

EASY...

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22 posted on 07/26/2010 4:12:40 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: La Lydia
So in other words, because you lived in Mexico for long periods of time, you are qualified to claim that the Mexican trucks involved in this program, with their USDOT numbers, US inspections, US safety decals, and US insurance are not capable of driving on US roads.

The pilot program lasted almost two years, I think. Where was the carnage?

23 posted on 07/26/2010 4:15:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: La Lydia
Oh, and the Mexican trucks that you observed in Mexico (with crappy brakes), probably rely more upon engine braking, then US trucks.
24 posted on 07/26/2010 4:18:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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oops--than

Hate that.

25 posted on 07/26/2010 4:19:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
There are Mexican trucks in the US beyond the buffer zone.

Back in 1982 when cross border trucking ended, company owned Mexican trucks were still allowed into the US.

And in 1996, Clinton didn't allow the Mexican trucks in, but Canada did, so there are Mexicans trucks crossing the US to reach Canada.

Hang around I 35 from Laredo to Dallas and I20 from Dallas to Little Rock and you will see some.

26 posted on 07/26/2010 4:20:33 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
That might be, although I've never heard anyone complain about it . . . a Mexican truck might simply be not allowed to deliver or pickup in the United States, but if it is just "passing through . . . ."

Although Heritage did a good study on that a few years ago, also. If your company decides to send a truck on a intracontinental, international jaunt, then it is likely to be in good working order.

27 posted on 07/26/2010 4:26:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: La Lydia
The American trucks are the ones with the brakes, the insurance and the mufflers.

And drivers that speak English..ohh yea one more thing..no secret compartments for smuggling people or drugs

28 posted on 07/26/2010 4:28:20 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)
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To: 1rudeboy
So in other words, because you lived in Mexico for long periods of time, you are qualified to claim that the Mexican trucks involved in this program, with their USDOT numbers, US inspections, US safety decals, and US insurance are not capable of driving on US roads...The pilot program lasted almost two years, I think. Where was the carnage?

What an idiot!

You obviously don't travel the routes these trucks took & thus didn't see or personally experience 1st hand the carnage they left behind. They may have been given paperwork & decals, but their equipment is anything but up to the US DOT STANDARDS that we “RED BLOODED AMERICAN PATRIOTIC TRUCKERS” are held to every day and THAT is why the program was discontinued...the Mexicans thought they should be given ‘SPECIAL’ treatment. They are of the same ilk as the illegals who wave the Mexican flag demanding they have American rights under OUR constitution.

29 posted on 07/26/2010 4:29:45 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

Man, I have to laugh . . . if a Mexican truck under this program was involved in some sort of atrocious accident . . . the story would’ve been in Breaking News on FR for weeks.


30 posted on 07/26/2010 4:33:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RnMomof7
. . . no secret compartments for smuggling people or drugs

Hey, the program has been scuttled for over a year now . . . how's that smuggling thing working out for us?

31 posted on 07/26/2010 4:35:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Not so well...but business will pick up as soon as they have unfettered access to the roads leading to your house


32 posted on 07/26/2010 4:39:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)
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To: RnMomof7
I love it when a conservative bases an argument on emotion. Keep 'em coming.

I only say that because you reminded me of the final scene in Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the Don Siegel version).

33 posted on 07/26/2010 4:46:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Oh, so you think the US government is going to do an immensely better job monitoring and enforcing the law regarding trucks and truck drivers than it does with people and contraband?

Now THAT is funny.

By the way, I am qualified to describe what I have observed on both sides of the border, unless you are one of those men who prefer that women just shut up and don't have opinions. Which I suspect. By the way, the pilot program was cancelled.

34 posted on 07/26/2010 4:50:54 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: 1rudeboy
It would have had to make it into mainstream news 1st now wouldn't it have? OH, wait a minute...they did kill a bunch of their own when they tried to smuggle them into the US, but then left them locked in the unventilated & uncooled trailer to die. But sad to say, that never made it into lame stream media either.

I have 3 vacation locations for you..

Nogales, AZ (I-17 corridor); San Ysidro-Chula Vista-National City, CA (I-5 corridor) & Calexico, CA (US HWY 111, Mexican HWY 2 corridor). Travel them sometime but more important, spend some time with the legal US locals in those areas, they have the real stories of how dangerous these trucks are. These corridors have been our main origin & destination points for over 30 years, thus I have logged & worked for the right to speak the truth to this matter.

35 posted on 07/26/2010 4:55:40 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: La Lydia
Mexican trucks have been crossing our border since the 1980's, if I recall. This brouhaha involves allowing them to move beyond the 20-mile buffer zone.

The pilot program was in effect for almost two years. It involved a 100 trucks. None of which mowed you down, or "came to your house," or took your children, or ate them.

The Teamsters didn't want the program, and neither did Sen. Murray. I'm just laughing at how quickly she changed her tune, and how FReepers still stick to the original.

36 posted on 07/26/2010 4:57:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: patlin
I didn't bother to pull out a map, because I'm simply assuming that you are confusing the short-haulers with the long-haulers. And do you want to see unsafe trucks, brother? Come to Gary, Indiana.

But only come at night, because they're all American, and smart enough not to run in the daytime.

37 posted on 07/26/2010 5:00:41 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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38 posted on 07/26/2010 5:02:40 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: 1rudeboy; All
Didn't mean to start a fight,I unload Trucks for a living.

Get ya in and out as soon as I can.

39 posted on 07/26/2010 5:05:20 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free (http://teapartypatriots.org)
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To: mdittmar
This fight has been ongoing since I registered on FR. It amuses me, becuase no one ever brings any facts to the table.

I mean, if you are opposed to illegal immigration, and want to punish Mexican trucking companies who want to do long-haul in the U.S., just admit it . . . don't make crap up about safety, and whatnot. The data isn't there.

40 posted on 07/26/2010 5:13:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
read the report..these trucks are NOT held to the same standard as US & Canadian carriers and thus the reason the program was scrapped...it was nothing more then progressive pandering foreign policy political correctness gone bad!

http://www.ooida.com/OOIDA%20Foundation/Issues/mexican_trucks.html

41 posted on 07/26/2010 5:21:14 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: mdittmar

Why is she blaming this on Obama? Isn’t Seattle one of the “sanctuary cities?” You can’t touch those truck drivers.


42 posted on 07/26/2010 5:23:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mdittmar

Boycott Washington State!!!


43 posted on 07/26/2010 5:24:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 1rudeboy
Don't know about the data,don't care.

Patty Murray supports Illegal Aliens,and I get Truckers on the road as fast as I can,That's my job.

44 posted on 07/26/2010 5:33:37 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free (http://teapartypatriots.org)
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To: patlin

Well, I’m afraid we’ve reached an impasse: the NHTSA has claimed for years that the Mexican trucks involved in the pilot program have U.S.-approved insurance carriers, and your website claims that the liability standards are different (kinda’ funny, if you think about it).


45 posted on 07/26/2010 5:36:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mdittmar

I was speaking generally, thanks for posting the thread.


46 posted on 07/26/2010 5:37:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mdittmar
It just irks me that these people come out and campaign for that which they have no personal knowledge of. This is what happens when irresponsible & unscrupulous companies allow these types to operate on the open road. The following pics shows what happened while we were PARKED at the fuel islands at the Flying J, Harrisonville, MO. The truck that ran our truck over was owned by a "SELF INSURED" American company out of Phoenix The trucks tags (prorate license) had expired, the drivers DID NOT hold valid CDL's, they were both students & they spoke little English but yet they were allowed to drive away while we where left with the damages & a truck that was deemed inoperable. Did it make the lamestream media? Of course NOT! 100_0613 100_0614 100_0615
47 posted on 07/26/2010 5:45:52 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Brilliant
Obama axed the NAFTA program, probably because he HATES the trucking industry, but he is embolden to the unions, thus the unions won out. But now it is hitting the WA agriculture industry which is the bread & butter to many states as well as the economic establishment of this country from its founding.
48 posted on 07/26/2010 5:49:02 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

You have the photos: what was the name of the trucking company, what was its USDOT number, who was its insurance carrier, where and when did the accident happen, how did you get the photos, and why are you “irked” because people on the internet expect accurate information?


49 posted on 07/26/2010 6:01:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: patlin

Don’t care about Union Drivers,or Independents,when you you back in,I do my job,I’ll get you back on the road.


50 posted on 07/26/2010 6:09:04 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free (http://teapartypatriots.org)
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