Posted on 07/27/2010 11:25:06 AM PDT by topher
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Tuesday July 27, 2010Study: Homosexuality Linked with Childhood Trauma
By James Tillman "People who either identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual, or have had a same-sex encounter or relationship, tend to come from more disturbed backgrounds," said Research Associate Professor Elisabeth Wells. "I suspect there might be some gay and lesbian people who will be indignant, but it is not my intention to anger them," she said. "You could say that if someone was sexually abused as a child, chooses to live as a homosexual and lives life well, then that is not a bad thing. But if they are living a homosexual life and regretting it, that is another matter." Of females who self-identified as homosexual, more than 40% had been married and had children, whereas 13% of male homosexuals had done so. Over 80% of those who identified as bisexual were women. The association between child abuse and later homosexual identification is not young. One 1992 study found that 37% of homosexual and bisexual men attending sexually transmitted disease clinics had been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner. The median age of first contact was 10 years old. |
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The California teacher won a lawsuit last Thursday.
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Good to see this. I wouldn’t call it “news” for those of us who pay attention, but it’s great to make this information available to help show that homosexuality is really a mental illness.
NO ONE and I repeat, NO ONE, is born a homosexual.
A homosexual is the result of emotional or physical ABUSE.
Is it any wonder that idiotic people DEFEND one’s right to be ABUSED and propagate the ABUSE on others? Liberals are miserable people. The more miserable people there are the BETTER THEY FEEL.
Interesting, but I also think that it may also be genetic and inherited. Sim[ply based on the fact that some of these people appear to have some kind of hormonal imbalance that makes them act effeminate and therefore easy to spot.
Eighty percent of gay men say they were born that way...the remaining twenty percent say they got sucked into it...
The median age of first contact was 10 years old.
URL: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/jul/10072701.html
Age is NOT a barrier.
They’ll easily ABUSE an INFANT.
Fired Calif. professor exonerated in settlement of lawsuit against San Jose college district
From that FreeRepublic.com discussion thread is this quote from the San Jose Mercury News:
The professor, whose cause was championed by an alliance of conservative Christian attorneys, acknowledged that she suggested a connection between an expectant mother's stress and male homosexuality. But an offended student accused the instructor of offering her own, more extreme views, not suitable for classroom discussion.
It must be all these people in New Zealand causing this trouble... [Just joking]
Homosexuals have existed since we first climbed down from trees or out of caves. Some folks would look on a hermaphrodite and say it is a mental disorder.
How would such a gene propagate?
For millions of years, you are saying that a gene that was not conducive to heterosexual propagation somehow managed to remain in the population?
It's not a survivable gene. Maybe if humans had hermaphroditic reproduction, but...we don't. And artificial insemination is an exceedingly recent invention.
It's not genetic. There may be a predisposition based on hormonal production, but it would eventuate only under the right conditions, and then die out....because there would be no offspring. Or very few, in some unusual cases.
Yup. As in, "emotional abuse".
The remarks on the other thread (about the Fired California Biology Teacher) were above my knowledge.
So I will let that person respond if they desire too...
What about those that didn’t undergo any trauma?
The predatory homosexual activists pressure even elementary schools to teach about homosexual “choice.”
“Hi, Johnny. You’re in first grade, right? Do you like to play with Gary more than you do Jane? Jason more than Sarah? Well, then, you are probably what’s clled “gay.” It’s a very good choice. The best. Tell your parents and teachers and classmates, so everyone will know who you are. Don’t let anyone tell you it isn’t a good choice.”
On the other hand it is well to avoid the common trap of seeking one all-encompassing explanation or cause. Behavior follows general laws but may evolve in given individuals for any of diverse reasons.
There is no doubt that much homosexual behavior comes from straightforward traumatic and other conditioning experiences at vulnerable developmental stages. It is also likely that given the broad range of possible hormonal aberrations and developmental anomalies, some people find themselves predisposed to same sex attraction.
The same way you explain boys being molested by Afghan chiefs in today's world: by force. Boys who are morphologically effeminate are physically assaulted and impressed into homosexuality by other men trying to show their physical dominance.
In Rome, there was no stigma attached to the aggressor in such a relationship. In fact, it was a sign of virility, and proof of superiority. Such symbology still exists within the Latin world today, and throughout the Muslim world.
In other words, it's a marker of a crude, backward and atavistic society.
Homosexuals make up about 1% of the population. Some people place the number as high as 2%, but current research indicates that this number is too high. I think it's clear that most (if not all) of the 1% of the population which is homosexual is that way because of some form of traumatic abuse.
If you want to argue that 0.15% of the population is "born gay" you could do so, of course. Personally I find it less than compelling. The bottom line, however, is that we have no need to reshape our society, our military recruitment practices, and our definition of marriage because some infinitesimal sliver of the population thinks we should.
Tyranny by the minority is not what this country is about.
I have a old acquaintance from youth (not a homosexual that I know of but never got married or had any girlfriends) whose mother was consistently overbearing.
I don't think anyone would "call" it abuse, but in my mind a consistent long-time influence that creates in a child an usually strong fear of life or instills a negative view of life is abuse. I think the mother in this case was merely trying to protect the child. But the effect on the child was to instill fear.
Like most relationships in life, this one flew under the radar such that no clear abuse was visible, but the mother clearly damaged the child.
And oddly enough, I don't think such behavior is rare (particularly in families where that father is missing or weak).
It is a well known fact that most homosexuals are not born that way.
They just get sucked into it.
Just curious if you think that abuse never happened in any of those times and places? That seems to be the gist of your post. I’m not taking a side on the issue, but your logic seems flawed.
Homosexuality is not a trait when you are BORN. It is not present.
Homosexuality is a result of ABUSE; either emotional or physical. It's like a bad tasting family recipe that keeps circulating in the family. It is also an acquired behavior in other environments such as prison. Many black men are bisexual. They go in there as heterosexual but due to lack of self control, dabble with homosexual sex. When they are released they go back to their girl friends but some learned to enjoy sex with other males and continue to pursue it. Eventually they pick up aids and bring it home to their wife or girl friend. It's an ugly secret they don't want you to know.
When someone has the CORRECT emotional upbringing they will not be homosexuals. When boys are encouraged to be BOYS; they will be BOYS. When boys are encouraged to be GIRLS; this will help make them effeminate and making them a tempting morsel for a homosexual as they are rejected by males that are not effeminate.
Much has to do with upbringing and encouraging the proper ROLE of each gender. No one, is predisposed to same sex attraction. Admiring someone and looking up to someone is not SEXUAL ATTRACTION. Stupid adults often mistake that for homosexuality and actually ENCOURAGE homosexuality.
You may be happy sitting on the fence trying to please everyone with nonsense, but I won't be sitting next to you. There is nothing NORMAL about homosexuality and no one is born a homosexual. In summary, ABUSE evolves in many ways, physical, emotional, environment and eventually it will take its toll on a person.
I’d also be interested to see if there are any studies regarding the effects of bullying or being labeled as effeminate (for guys) by others. Boys who aren’t athletic, for instance, could have a rough time identifying themselves as male/manly in the face of constant ridicule and speculation. It might be easier psychologically to just give up and be what everybody says you are.
I see stuff going on in my kids’ school and I really feel for the kids who are “different” in non-sexual ways and it gets sexualized in the attitudes surrounding them.
Precisely - which is the main reason I’m not sure what course I will take if “don’t ask, don’t tell” is repealed. Can I continue to serve in an organization that forces me to recognize as true something which is clearly not true?
Colonel, USAFR
But haven’t you heard? “We don’t recruit”.
Bravo Sierra.
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I don’t know any personally, that I know of, but why do you think it’s clear? Wouldn’t you have to have an awful lot of data, going back centuries, for it to be clearly a case of traumatic abuse?
They're probably lying. I have known/met many, many homosexuals...male/female over the years. Each of them had a "story" to tell.
While I totally agree that in some cases this is absolutely correct, there are many people who were not/have not been abused and still are homosexual.
To simply say that being gay is a choice is extremely ignorant. If this were true, then you being hetero is also a choice right? And if you being hetero is a choice, then this would mean that you like both sexes, could have sex with either sex, but PREFER the opposite sex.
When I ask someone “straight” who says being gay is a “choice”, I would often reply, “To act on it is a choice. But attracted to it is not.”
In fact many men in the Priesthood who are gay, promise not to act on it due to their faith. However, personally that is like expecting a dog not to wag his tail when he sees his owner come home. Nuns often are better at not acting on their desire than priests.
But most people who are gay are born this way just as many people who are born “straight”. No straight person would say he simply chooses the opposite. They can’t help their desire for the opposite, it is this strong. The same can be stated for the homosexual. However, the former is the normal around 90% and the latter is demonized and around 10%. Of course, they have trouble admitting to being different.
And if it really is just a “choice” why on earth would all these gay people CHOOSE condemnation?? I mean, think about it...IF you liked the opposite sex as well, would you not want to FIT IN with society.
Another thing...
I guess all these “gay” animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.
And don’t pretend we are not from the animal kingdom because we are. We just are too full of ourselves to think otherwise.
Another conclusion that didn’t need a study.
...some of these people appear to have some kind of hormonal imbalance that makes them act effeminate and therefore easy to spot.
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Have you not also encountered heterosexual men who acted effeminate and heterosexual women who seeme masculine? I have.
Probably
Not if as for most circumstances because homosexual behavior is frowned upon by most societies they may not be open about it and reproducing in higher numbers than you think. We simply don't know or have enough data. Political correctness has made research in this area a third rail for researchers and the fact is we have few clues on the subject.
I anticipate that this is very important:
Sexual orientation and its basis in brain structure and function
Current evidence indicates that sexual differentiation of the human brain occurs during fetal and neonatal development and programs our gender identityour feeling of being male or female and our sexual orientation as hetero-, homo-, or bisexual. This sexual differentiation process is accompanied by many structural and functional brain differences among these groups (1). In previous studies (2, 3), the Savic laboratory detected a sex-differentiated activation of the anterior hypothalamus in heterosexual men (HeM) and heterosexual women (HeW) and a sex-atypical, almost reversed, pattern of activation in homosexual men (HoM) and homosexual women (HoW). The hypothalamus (Fig. 1) is a small brain area located under the anterior commissure that is involved in many different functions, including reproduction.
http://www.pnas.org/content/105/30/10273.full
Now, in 1969, the APA decided to reclassify homosexuality and declare that it was not a mental illness. If effect, people are "born that way".
Personally, I'd like to see centuries of genetic studies that prove that people are "born that way" -- but no such studies exist. At all. No genetic trace has ever been verified.
So, we are back with the age old concept that homosexuals are "messed up people". Until somone comes up with compelling proof that this is not the case, I won't consider homosexuals to be either normal or "born that way".
fact is we have no clue as to why or where etc... Once in a while we get studies that give us a clue and then are suppressed by the establishment. Research into homosexuality has become a third rail in science and there is no funding for it by most governments.
So has abuse and exploitation of children, duh. Homosexuality is a disordered response to trauma, Stockholm syndrome, adopt the worldview and persona of the powerful abuser in order to insulate and encapsulate the trauma. The prey becomes the predator. Story as old as time.
Add in an inattentive father, the two I know had both.
I'm sure abuse has happened throughout the ages. I don't think childhood abuse is the root cause of homosexuality in the majority of instances. As another poster said to me Boys who are morphologically effeminate are physically assaulted and impressed into homosexuality by other men trying to show their physical dominance . The key point within his own argument is Boys who are morphologically effeminate admitting that some boys are born with effeminate tendencies. I personally believe that some homosexuality is a personal choice and other is genetics.
I am OK with either form as long as it is not rubbed in my face or causes me to lose my rights. I also don't believe the Government has any business in marriage including giving rights to those folks who are "married". Marriage is a sacrament of the church and as such should not be regulated or sanctioned by the Government. If any citizen has the right then all citizens should have the right to a civil union which should be regulated and sanctioned by the state governments. Civil unions should have no bearing on the religious bonding which is marriage.
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Yes I understand that. I just don’t think you can honestly say that all homosexuals have been traumatized. That’s an awful lot of people throughout history. Besides, what about the first homosexuals? There had to be one of each sex, didn’t there? Who traumatized them?
I have observed the same situations amongst my acquaintances.
Spartans glorified homosexuality, particularly in the military, and the solders initiated young boys into the “lifestyle”. (It was taught). Homosexuality was widespread since it was promoted in the culture (that defies genetics and proves it is learned!).
Greek politicians would on occasion try to protect their sons from being sexually used by men. It was uncommon practice to protect their sons, though....look into NAMBLA’s literature. They are probably Greekophiles.
Tribes who glorified homosexuality, produced a lot of homosexuals. Children were exposed to the ideas and their perception of nature is altered.
Those tribes that thought homosexuality was evil had little problems with homosexual behavior.
There is nothing genetic about this behavior. If there was “sexual orientation” than all “orientations” would be genetic which is a stupid idea. Beastiality, incest, babies being raped, etc,. are all caused by damage to the emotional and intellectual development of young children. That is why they call the first seven years the “formative years”. Just as you can abuse animals and “teach” them to do unnatural acts, you can do the same with children. Why do you think there are little four year old boys who will actually try to mount little girls. It is learned. It is not natural at that age. You can pervert nature easily with young vulnerable children.
There is a lot of good information on harm caused to young children (esp. boys) that are a result of emotional/or/and physical damage that perverts their nature.
As long as adults have the power to harm children, there will be homosexuality. All it takes is an ignorant,selfish, stupid or sick adult, and they have existed since the beginning of time.
The only thing I want made crystal clear is that homosexuality should not be normalized. When a society starts to see homosexuality as inconsequential, there is a problem.
Effeminate men and manly women are fighting an uphill battle when it comes to attracting the opposite sex.
I think most homosexuals were abused as children, and the rest just “gave up” competing with stronger males and more attractive females.
OK. Since there must also be another reason for homosexuality, then it probably should be said, that we just don’t know. Maybe born that way, maybe not.
>>I guess all these gay animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.<<
There is no homosexual behavior in animals because there is no emotion to sex. The act of mounting is domination. Plain and simple.
Only Humans and Dolphins have intercourse for pleasure. All others use it as a way to show underlings who is boss. That’s what you are seeing. Take any “same sex paring” in the animal kingdom and introduce a creature of the opposite sex and they will fight each other to procreate.
You’re humanizing them.
We all knew this.
I’m just surprised that the study was “allowed” to be done.
Sounds like the guy that conducted the study was punished for it, as expected.
Can’t let the truth get out.
Well then, I don’t understand the post of yours I responded to.
“NO ONE and I repeat, NO ONE, is born a homosexual. A homosexual is the result of emotional or physical ABUSE.”
Studies of identical twins prove that homosexuality is NOT genetic however that doesn’t mean you can’t be born gay. It is possible that it is a congenital disease possible due to some hormonal anomaly in the womb. Being born gay doesn’t make it “normal” anymore than someone born with mental retardation due to asphyxia is normal.
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