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WTO backs China in U.S. chicken import row: Chinese source
reuters.com ^ | 07/29/10 | Jonathan Lynn

Posted on 07/27/2010 4:51:36 PM PDT by goldendays

WTO backs China in U.S. chicken import row: (Reuters) - A World Trade Organization panel has ruled in favor of China in its dispute with the United States over an effective U.S. ban on imports of Chinese chicken, a Chinese source said on Tuesday.

The WTO issued a ruling in the poultry dispute to the two parties on Monday, but it remains confidential until it is published in a couple of months time.

There was no official comment from Chinese or U.S. authorities. Asked whether China had won the case, the source, who is familiar with the ruling, told Reuters: "You could say that ... It went well."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: china; laws; wto
they told the truth ,but no one listen,now you see most of America gone.a secret board met at the wto and tell america its must change its laws.we only have one vote like cuba has one vote listen to all of them its 17 min

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1590858026591557284#

1 posted on 07/27/2010 4:51:38 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: goldendays

Managed trade according not to America but according to the world.


2 posted on 07/27/2010 4:52:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: goldendays

McCain was the Commerce Committee Chairman 8 years under the Clinton administration.This man had the power to have hearings on our jobs being shipped over seas. Not one hearing did this man have while the world trade organization were taking our jobs away.Listen to these men, they were telling you the truth.


3 posted on 07/27/2010 4:53:20 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: cripplecreek

the government took are jobs away from you and your FAMILY they think we forgot GOVERNEMT IS THE PROBLEM!!!!


4 posted on 07/27/2010 4:58:14 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: goldendays

This dispute is about whether we have to allow China to export chicken to the US when there is an outbreak of bird flu. Apparently we do.


5 posted on 07/27/2010 5:00:55 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

what not point ,a secret board met at the wto and tell america its must change its laws no one elected American set on this board


6 posted on 07/27/2010 5:10:34 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: La Lydia

A woman in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong has died of the H5N1 bird flu virus, which she probably contracted from sick poultry she kept in her backyard, Hong Kong government health officials said on Monday.


7 posted on 07/27/2010 5:12:00 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: goldendays

It’s not “secret” just because you don’t know about how it is formed. Usually, the panel is comprised of three or five members, and the parties to the dispute have the power to object to their appointment.


8 posted on 07/27/2010 5:17:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: goldendays
I love the taste of anti freeze in my chicken....


9 posted on 07/27/2010 5:17:48 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: goldendays
A woman in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong has died of the H5N1 bird flu virus, which she probably contracted from sick poultry she kept in her backyard, Hong Kong government health officials said on Monday.

China bird flu victim ate sick chickens-officials, Reuters, February 25, 2008, 08:21:00 GMT.

10 posted on 07/27/2010 5:30:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
A World Trade Organization panel has ruled in favor of China in its dispute with the United States over an effective U.S. ban on imports of Chinese chicken.
The US gov't socialist protection scheme amounted to a subsidy for chicken farmers. /sarc
11 posted on 07/27/2010 5:36:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: goldendays

Please tell me you have a better link, and that you didn’t just “accidentally” post a two-year-old article and suggest it was from yesterday.


12 posted on 07/27/2010 5:36:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The byline from the linked article is below:

WTO backs China in U.S. chicken import row: Chinese source

GENEVA | Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:42pm EDT

GENEVA (Reuters) - A World Trade Organization panel has

Looks pretty current to me, FRiend.

13 posted on 07/27/2010 6:07:43 PM PDT by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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To: 1rudeboy
The byline from the linked article is below:

WTO backs China in U.S. chicken import row: Chinese source

GENEVA | Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:42pm EDT

GENEVA (Reuters) - A World Trade Organization panel has

Looks pretty current to me, FRiend. The INCIDENT was 2 years ago, this is the legal chakeout from then.

14 posted on 07/27/2010 6:08:26 PM PDT by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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To: Don W

I’m replying to comment #7, and not the original post. I suspect our friend was trying to pull a fast one.


15 posted on 07/27/2010 6:09:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: goldendays

I do NOT want to eat a chicken that has ever been in China.

Are these chickens grown in China or grown in the USA then processed in CHINA then sold in the USA?


16 posted on 07/27/2010 6:13:55 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna
That's a good question. After a bit of research, it appears that China is mad because we promised to open our chicken market to its chicken, if it opened its chicken market to ours.

That chicken of ours, I suppose, could come back to us. (I don't know the details, and this thing went down at the same time as the Chinese tire tariffs, so I'd need more time than I'm willing to spend to sort it all out).

17 posted on 07/27/2010 6:22:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: donna

“I do NOT want to eat a chicken that has ever been in China.”

The problem here is that the U.S is not longer strong enough to bend/break internal rules of trade to it’s own advantage. So I’m afraid you’re gonna have to eat that chicken whether you like it or not. :P


18 posted on 07/27/2010 7:07:00 PM PDT by artaxerces
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To: artaxerces

C’mon. We can ban Chinese chicken in perpetuity, and there’s nothing the WTO can do about it (other than to allow China to ban our chicken, for example).


19 posted on 07/27/2010 7:12:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: artaxerces

All I want to eat are chickens from my own state. What happen to the law of supply and demand? I’ll pay, I’ll pay!

I can see two headlines:

1) Famine in the USA as Chinese chickens arrive late!
2) Chinese Army burns bodies of Americans poisoned by chicken!


20 posted on 07/27/2010 7:19:16 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna
All I want to eat are chickens from my own state. What happen to the law of supply and demand? I’ll pay, I’ll pay!

That doesn't make very much sense, unless you add "but I want them sold at the most convenient location to my house!"

21 posted on 07/27/2010 8:05:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Says you. If someone wants to sell chickens and I want to buy them, I think we can find a way to do that.

Somehow, we all ate chicken before Nixon went to China.


22 posted on 07/27/2010 8:55:01 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna

I don’t see what your problem is—if you don’t want to buy Chinese chicken, then don’t buy it. I don’t buy food from China, either.


23 posted on 07/27/2010 9:00:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You think they’re going to tell you? They don’t want you to know which veggies come from Mexico either. What are the restaurants going to use? Ick!

There is no way a chicken, shipped around the world twice, is cheaper than an all-American-chicken. Something horrible is going on - and I don’t want to eat it.


24 posted on 07/27/2010 9:13:04 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna
There is no way a chicken, shipped around the world twice, is cheaper than an all-American-chicken.

That's what a lot of Dems say (I'm not implying that you are a Dem) . . . "they are American producers, they should be able to afford the extra taxes," etc.

25 posted on 07/27/2010 9:17:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

How is a chicken sent to China for processing and returned to the USA taxed less?

Obviously, they are trying to make the American middle class poorer and give the Chinese a way to make money because our ruling class believes in redistribution.

But, let’s not pretend that it has anything to do with supply and demand or free enterprise or the American way.


26 posted on 07/27/2010 9:52:40 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna
I'm afraid that's what you don't get: an American chicken sent to China for processing is still subject to the highest (depending on your measure, maybe the second) corporate income tax rate in the world.

In other words, our corporate tax rate is sending these chickens overseas, so that they can be returned to us. Don't you think that's a little effed-up?

27 posted on 07/27/2010 10:03:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

What I think is that corporations are sleeping with the politicians and free enterprise is dead in America; and, at some point I’m going to eat Chinese chicken and be grateful for it. Boy, I’m I depressed.


28 posted on 07/27/2010 10:13:43 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna

China puts 105% tariff on our chicken exports.
We should do the same to theirs.


29 posted on 07/27/2010 11:57:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: calcowgirl

Someone wants China to get that money.


30 posted on 07/28/2010 12:01:58 AM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: calcowgirl

Umm, the duties (whatever they are, 105% sounds a little high) were placed on U.S. chicken because our market is closed to Chinese chicken. I’m not saying we should import Chinese chicken, but complaining about China’s duties on ours is a little backward.


31 posted on 07/28/2010 6:42:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: donna

No, someone wants to sell less U.S. chicken in China.


32 posted on 07/28/2010 6:46:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Umm, the duties (whatever they are, 105% sounds a little high) were placed on U.S. chicken because our market is closed to Chinese chicken.

Ummm, no. You're wrong. (Do you just make the stuff up that you post?)

They were imposed as antisubsidy and antidumping tariffs.

Pretty amusing - China hitting the US with antidumping tariffs when they dump shipload after shipload of their junk on our shores.

33 posted on 07/28/2010 11:25:35 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: calcowgirl
Ummm, no. You're wrong. (Do you just make the stuff up that you post?)

But the ban on imports remains effectively in place as the U.S. Department of Agriculture is still reviewing Chinese food safety rules before deciding whether it can start inspections at Chinese processing plants.
same Reuters story, just updated

So you're wrong. (And I just like to make fun of people who act as if they know what they're talking about).

34 posted on 07/28/2010 11:37:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Huh?

I was talking about Chinese imports (i.e. U.S. exports) being subject to 105% tariffs (antidumping and antisubsidy)

Now you’re gonna talk about U.S. imports and try to twist this to say *I’m* wrong by ?

Whew!

You’re a real piece of work.


35 posted on 07/28/2010 12:37:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: calcowgirl
No, I simply took you literally. I said that the U.S. market is closed to Chinese chicken imports, and you said I was wrong. Don't blame me because you can't properly write a sentence.

Seriously, look at it again. You said I was wrong, but not what I was wrong about. I might be a "piece of work," thank you, but you're simply dumb.

36 posted on 07/28/2010 12:45:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: calcowgirl
Your comment #29:

China puts 105% tariff on our chicken exports.
We should do the same to theirs.

So what is 105% of zero? I'm not that good at math.
37 posted on 07/28/2010 12:48:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
So what is 105% of zero? I'm not that good at math.

105% of the value of the chicken when it hits the dock at Long Beach.

38 posted on 07/28/2010 12:54:40 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner
The point is, there is no Chinese chicken hitting the dock.

Did I miss something? Why am I being misunderstood?

39 posted on 07/28/2010 1:09:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Did I miss something?

The part where the poster said that if the US is forced to allow Chinese chicken into the country, we ought to slap it with the same tarrif that is, apparently, imposed on US chicken entering China.

40 posted on 07/28/2010 1:54:55 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: 1rudeboy
Man -- you sure can twist and squirm when you're wrong.

You said China's tariffs (imposed on US goods imported to China) were in response to the banning all chicken imports.

That was false.

You were wrong.

Deal with it.


1rudeboy: "Umm, the duties (whatever they are, 105% sounds a little high) were placed on U.S. chicken because our market is closed to Chinese chicken. I’m not saying we should import Chinese chicken, but complaining about China’s duties on ours is a little backward."

41 posted on 07/28/2010 2:01:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: Pilsner

Exactly. It goes to the subject of the whole article - the stupid WTO ruling.

Thank you!


42 posted on 07/28/2010 2:33:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: Pilsner
The part where the poster said that if the US is forced to allow Chinese chicken into the country, we ought to slap it with the same tarrif that is, apparently, imposed on US chicken entering China.

Well, that would make the comment even more stupid . . . because it suggests that a 105% tariff will allieviate concerns about bird flu.

Moreover, calcowgirl, I can just as easily argue that China imposed these tariffs because we imposed tariffs on Chinese tires. That doesn't make you "wrong," it just indicates that your feeble mind can't grasp the notion that this trade dispute has many fathers.

43 posted on 07/28/2010 4:04:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Pilsner
The part where the poster said that if the US is forced to allow Chinese chicken into the country, we ought to slap it with the same tarrif that is, apparently, imposed on US chicken entering China.

Apart from the fact that the word "if" was never used, and therefore I should be crucified for not assuming it was there.

44 posted on 07/28/2010 4:08:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: calcowgirl
I forgot to ping you. I'm not going to back down on this one, sorry. You said something vague (that suggested we import Chinese chicken), I corrected you and told you that it is "backward" to discuss imposing tariffs on chicken we do not import at all. You had the opportunity to simply say, "I was misunderstood, let me explain," but you went straight to accusing me of making stuff up.

All because you couldn't be bothered to be specific in the first place.

45 posted on 07/28/2010 4:31:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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