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Democrat: Let's have mandatory national service
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | July 27, 2010 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 07/27/2010 7:13:58 PM PDT by Man50D

A bill introduced in the House of Representatives by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., would reinstate a compulsory military draft during war time and require U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a "national service obligation" – as defined by President Obama – for a minimum of two years.

Rangel introduced the Universal National Service Act, or H.R. 5741 on July 15. The measure was referred to the House Armed Services' Subcommittee on Military Personnel on July 23.

Rangel introduced similar bills in 2003, 2006 and 2007. His current bill does not have a co-sponsor.

Rangel took to the floor of the House to reintroduce HR 5741, stating, "I have introduced legislation to reinstate the draft and to make it permanent during time of war. It is HR 5741, and what this does is to make everyone between the ages of 18 and 42 – whether they're men or women, whether they're straight or gay – to have the opportunity to defend this great country whenever the president truly believes that our national security is threatened."

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Rangel introduced similar bills in the past on the premise too many blacks were drafted into the military. I'm sure his colleagues will jump on board given his beyond reproach reputation.
1 posted on 07/27/2010 7:14:00 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Psst. Rangel: That’s what they called “slavery” in the old days.


2 posted on 07/27/2010 7:16:10 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Man50D

Ah, the party of civil liberties...


3 posted on 07/27/2010 7:16:40 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Man50D

Well hell. Given this guy’s future occupation, perhaps he wants people to help with breaking rocks in a prison yard.


4 posted on 07/27/2010 7:17:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Man50D

Rangel, you no got better things to do?


5 posted on 07/27/2010 7:17:37 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Man50D

My national service is to make sure my family doesn’t have to depend on WELFARE!


7 posted on 07/27/2010 7:19:46 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Man50D

Let’s have mandatory term limits.


8 posted on 07/27/2010 7:20:59 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Man50D

National Service... sacking Washington DC ??


9 posted on 07/27/2010 7:21:47 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Man50D

Hey, Charlie! You first!

You can serve two years in jail, ya crook!


10 posted on 07/27/2010 7:22:14 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Man50D

Rangel can get the ball rolling on his mandatory national service proposal by paying his taxes.


11 posted on 07/27/2010 7:22:26 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Man50D
Rangel introduced similar bills in the past on the premise too many blacks were drafted into the military.

Like so many of his ilk, Rangel beats a dead horse. The draft was ended in 1973.

Any black (or white) who joined the service over the past 37 yrs volunteered.

12 posted on 07/27/2010 7:22:58 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Man50D
U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a "national service obligation" – as defined by President Obama – for a minimum of two years.

Total lunacy. Our armed forces are around 1.5 million now, and there are around 4 million kids in each grade of school (minus dropouts). So, this fool wants four million new adults each year to sign up for two years of military service or some sort of 'national service'. We'd always have eight million young people signed up for national service at any given time, and just what would they do?

This would be the biggest waste of time in money in all human history.

13 posted on 07/27/2010 7:24:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Man50D

Maybe way off subject but I feared something like this when some schools started mandating SSL or student service learning (what my son calls socialist slave labor). 75 hours donated to service or you don’t graduate from high school. Maryland’s state schools actually require more if you plan on going to a state university so it is more like 400 ssl hours. If they force kids to “volunteer” than it is only a matter of time till everyone is “volunteering”. Just a thought


14 posted on 07/27/2010 7:27:25 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Man50D; neverdem; justiceseeker93; Impy; ExTexasRedhead; metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime

Maybe Rangel can perform his national service as part of a work release program.


15 posted on 07/27/2010 7:28:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Will88

“We’d always have eight million young people signed up for national service at any given time, and just what would they do?”

March in single-file, and tell everyone what Obama has done for them.


16 posted on 07/27/2010 7:29:29 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Man50D

I have penciled in time to worry about this on Wednesdays between 1:04:00 and 1:04:01 pm.


17 posted on 07/27/2010 7:33:02 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: Man50D

“...and require U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a “national service obligation” – as defined by President Obama – for a minimum of two years.”

The potatoes at Collective Farm #37 will not pick themselves, comrades!

/sarc....or is it? :-)


18 posted on 07/27/2010 7:33:29 PM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! SERPENTINE!)
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To: Man50D

Let’s just try to take the spotlight off of Rangel’s ethics charges, eh?


19 posted on 07/27/2010 7:34:33 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Man50D

Serious constitutional problems here. The constitution provides for raising a military but it also prohibits involuntary servitude. I don’t see how you can eqaute the constitutionally approved draft with just conscripting people off the street against their will for whatever work project fulfills the whim of the politicians du jour.


20 posted on 07/27/2010 7:34:46 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Nick Danger

Which Wednesday?...I’m book till March 2012.


21 posted on 07/27/2010 7:34:54 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Nick Danger
I have penciled in time to worry about this on Wednesdays between 1:04:00 and 1:04:01 pm.

Damn, you took my time slot, now I'm going to have to look at my calender again!

22 posted on 07/27/2010 7:37:48 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: Man50D

The reason is simple, they will require “educational courses” of all the young people that will be nothing more than liberal indoctrination courses extolling the praises of multiculturalism, homosexuality, abortion, Obamacare, and every other liberal idea.


23 posted on 07/27/2010 7:38:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Man50D

Slavery has been outlawed.


24 posted on 07/27/2010 7:38:36 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Nick Danger

Hey Nick, haven’t seen you in years!


25 posted on 07/27/2010 7:40:03 PM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: Man50D

bump


26 posted on 07/27/2010 7:43:17 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Man50D

Rangel and his ilk should start serving the public instead of servicing the public.


27 posted on 07/27/2010 7:45:29 PM PDT by csmusaret (A government that can dictate how much water flows into a toilet is a powerful government indeed.)
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To: Man50D
U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a “national service obligation” – as defined by President Obama – for a minimum of two years.

Will they have brown uniforms with armbands?

28 posted on 07/27/2010 7:48:02 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: freedomfiter2
"Slavery has been outlawed."

HA...NOT by the Democrat Party.....they need their PLANTATION workers....

29 posted on 07/27/2010 7:49:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: csmusaret

You mean stealing from the public!


30 posted on 07/27/2010 7:50:53 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: taxtruth

Servicing as in screwing. I think stealing would fall under that heading as well.


31 posted on 07/27/2010 7:53:38 PM PDT by csmusaret (A government that can dictate how much water flows into a toilet is a powerful government indeed.)
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To: Will88
They could join the New Civilan Conservation Corpse or the Forest Service

or how about a National Civilan Security Force that is Just as strong, just as well funded as the Military?

32 posted on 07/27/2010 7:53:57 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: Man50D

This is actually comical to me...well in a twisted sort of way. I’m beyond the age of ‘recruitment’ however, what is comical to me is that some of the biggest libs I know who voted for the racist/marxist have ‘kids’. You know the kind: “pampered”. Can’t wait to see reaction to this. One particular family, well they sent their kids to the best universities and 3 have graduated. The fourth..well I’m not sure about but they are all of prime age and daddy and mommy voted for this! (so I get my kicks in an unusual way).


33 posted on 07/27/2010 7:54:36 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (LOCKED & LOADED)
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To: Man50D

I have a better Idea Let’s Create JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 07/27/2010 7:56:56 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Man50D

They are the party of defeat and he wants National Service? These idiots really need to be run out on rails, tarred and feathered and then imprisoned for their crimes against the country but I guess treason doesn’t matter anymore.


35 posted on 07/27/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: KC_Lion
Whoops Civilian can't spell right today
36 posted on 07/27/2010 7:57:34 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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"I have introduced legislation to reinstate the draft and to make it permanent during time of war. It is HR 5741, and what this does is to make everyone between the ages of 18 and 42 – whether they're men or women, whether they're straight or gay – to have the opportunity to defend this great country whenever the president truly believes that our national security is threatened."

Legal/Illegal. Great way to make Illegals really Illegal!

37 posted on 07/27/2010 7:57:49 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: Man50D; Clintonfatigued

Placemarker.

Nice way to boost the civilian security force, like the ones that Hitler and Stalin had.

I shudder to think who he’s going to propose run it or put in it as officers.

Maybe the guy with the baton who wasn’t involved in voter intimidation in Philly?


38 posted on 07/27/2010 7:58:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem; The Mayor; Behind Liberal Lines

NY ping


39 posted on 07/27/2010 7:59:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Rangel did this a couple times during W’s presidency as well. I have a lib brother (well 2 of them actually), and he is very very anti war. He told me once that W wanted to start the draft, and asked me “how do you feel about that??” knowing I have kids, thinking that would hurt me somehow. I told him, it was a dem that wanted the draft, not W.

He would not believe me. He told me I was a liar.

I printed him articles for his next visit. I handed him the packet (i bet there were 10 articles on Rangel and his draft), he looked at one title, and tossed them on the counter, he refused to look at them. He told me if they were from the internet, they were BS, because anyone can print whatever they want on the internet, blah blah blah, you know the routine.

Libs will NOT, they CANNOT fathom that a dem would want a draft. Heck, I’ve heard kids at our college (I’m an old guy who has to take classes each year for certain stuff) talk about Nixons War. They are convinced, that Nixon started Vietnam and drafted all sorts of people. You cannot tell them it was JFK and Johnson. They just refuse to believe it. And these are kids in our college system.

I am starting to agree with some of the Europeans that we have the stupidest kids in the world in our schools. When Che is a hero, Nixon started Vietnam, Lincoln was a democrat, and W wanted a draft, etc etc etc. I start to lose hope, and wish there was a reset button.


40 posted on 07/27/2010 8:03:03 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Man50D

Here goes Chuckie again ! Time for upchuck to retire !


41 posted on 07/27/2010 8:07:29 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: momtothree
Ohhh don't get me started!...I was on a school board and have had many a battle with “forced volunteering”!!...... I asked the librarian who was strongly for it why there was no “True fiction” section in her library.........everyone laughed including her, but I said I was dead serious... She finally sputtered it was an oxymoron....I said “forced volunteerism”.....I rest my case your Honor
42 posted on 07/27/2010 8:11:51 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Man50D

I am going to take a guess here:
1) He wants a draft to basically “erase” the unemployment problem.
2) Indoctrination and dependency
3) Special benefits which FedGov can manipulate/buy votes

How am I doing?


43 posted on 07/27/2010 8:13:05 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Spellcheck is for wimps and liberals)
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To: M-cubed

bump


44 posted on 07/27/2010 8:13:50 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Spellcheck is for wimps and liberals)
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To: Man50D

I pay exorbitant taxes to the state and that’s all you S.O.W.s will ever get from me.


45 posted on 07/27/2010 8:22:12 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: esoxmagnum

Interesting and predictable. How can a constant state of denial by these people be explained? It’s like trying to reason with a rock. They can be shown, in writing, the facts about a subject, just as you did with your brother and the reaction is the same as his. Dismiss the message as false...it’s from the internet (which they use generously to spread lies).

I don’t know if you’ll recall, but during the campaign there was a Youtube vid released of Obama with an ABC reporter during an interview. During that interview Obama slipped up and called himself a Muslim and the reporter actually leaned in and said “you mean Christian don’t you?” at which point the Marxist reversed course.

Anyway, I emailed that video to a jewish friend of mine and his retort? It’s from the internet! and proceeded to berate me and insinuate that I didn’t do research, that I was a kook for believing that etc etc.

Like you I have little faith regarding these people and yes, some of the youth. But I also see many good things from the young people and many are conservative as well. We don’t know how this will shake out but I do know: Truth always, always will prevail. It cannot be hidden forever. In truth we gather strength and that’s how we will defeat this enemy.


46 posted on 07/27/2010 8:33:01 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (LOCKED & LOADED)
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To: Man50D

If this succeeds, my national service will be conducted with pitchforks and torches.


47 posted on 07/27/2010 8:42:17 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: dangus

yes, slavery


48 posted on 07/27/2010 9:07:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: dangus

It wasn’t called slavery, in the old days it was called conscription.


49 posted on 07/27/2010 9:09:47 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: Nick Danger
I have penciled in time to worry about this on Wednesdays between 1:04:00 and 1:04:01 pm.

Let's have a Web-ex. I'll send you an invite from my "GoToMeeting.com" account.

50 posted on 07/27/2010 9:11:07 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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