Skip to comments.Democrat: Let's have mandatory national service
Posted on 07/27/2010 7:13:58 PM PDT by Man50D
A bill introduced in the House of Representatives by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., would reinstate a compulsory military draft during war time and require U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a "national service obligation" as defined by President Obama for a minimum of two years.
Rangel introduced the Universal National Service Act, or H.R. 5741 on July 15. The measure was referred to the House Armed Services' Subcommittee on Military Personnel on July 23.
Rangel introduced similar bills in 2003, 2006 and 2007. His current bill does not have a co-sponsor.
Rangel took to the floor of the House to reintroduce HR 5741, stating, "I have introduced legislation to reinstate the draft and to make it permanent during time of war. It is HR 5741, and what this does is to make everyone between the ages of 18 and 42 whether they're men or women, whether they're straight or gay to have the opportunity to defend this great country whenever the president truly believes that our national security is threatened."
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Psst. Rangel: That’s what they called “slavery” in the old days.
Ah, the party of civil liberties...
Well hell. Given this guy’s future occupation, perhaps he wants people to help with breaking rocks in a prison yard.
Rangel, you no got better things to do?
My national service is to make sure my family doesn’t have to depend on WELFARE!
Let’s have mandatory term limits.
National Service... sacking Washington DC ??
Hey, Charlie! You first!
You can serve two years in jail, ya crook!
Rangel can get the ball rolling on his mandatory national service proposal by paying his taxes.
Like so many of his ilk, Rangel beats a dead horse. The draft was ended in 1973.
Any black (or white) who joined the service over the past 37 yrs volunteered.
Total lunacy. Our armed forces are around 1.5 million now, and there are around 4 million kids in each grade of school (minus dropouts). So, this fool wants four million new adults each year to sign up for two years of military service or some sort of 'national service'. We'd always have eight million young people signed up for national service at any given time, and just what would they do?
This would be the biggest waste of time in money in all human history.
Maybe way off subject but I feared something like this when some schools started mandating SSL or student service learning (what my son calls socialist slave labor). 75 hours donated to service or you don’t graduate from high school. Maryland’s state schools actually require more if you plan on going to a state university so it is more like 400 ssl hours. If they force kids to “volunteer” than it is only a matter of time till everyone is “volunteering”. Just a thought
Maybe Rangel can perform his national service as part of a work release program.
“We’d always have eight million young people signed up for national service at any given time, and just what would they do?”
March in single-file, and tell everyone what Obama has done for them.
I have penciled in time to worry about this on Wednesdays between 1:04:00 and 1:04:01 pm.
“...and require U.S. citizens not selected for military duty to perform a “national service obligation” as defined by President Obama for a minimum of two years.”
The potatoes at Collective Farm #37 will not pick themselves, comrades!
/sarc....or is it? :-)
Let’s just try to take the spotlight off of Rangel’s ethics charges, eh?
Serious constitutional problems here. The constitution provides for raising a military but it also prohibits involuntary servitude. I don’t see how you can eqaute the constitutionally approved draft with just conscripting people off the street against their will for whatever work project fulfills the whim of the politicians du jour.
Which Wednesday?...I’m book till March 2012.
Damn, you took my time slot, now I'm going to have to look at my calender again!
The reason is simple, they will require “educational courses” of all the young people that will be nothing more than liberal indoctrination courses extolling the praises of multiculturalism, homosexuality, abortion, Obamacare, and every other liberal idea.
Slavery has been outlawed.
Hey Nick, haven’t seen you in years!
Rangel and his ilk should start serving the public instead of servicing the public.
Will they have brown uniforms with armbands?
HA...NOT by the Democrat Party.....they need their PLANTATION workers....
You mean stealing from the public!
Servicing as in screwing. I think stealing would fall under that heading as well.
or how about a National Civilan Security Force that is Just as strong, just as well funded as the Military?
This is actually comical to me...well in a twisted sort of way. I’m beyond the age of ‘recruitment’ however, what is comical to me is that some of the biggest libs I know who voted for the racist/marxist have ‘kids’. You know the kind: “pampered”. Can’t wait to see reaction to this. One particular family, well they sent their kids to the best universities and 3 have graduated. The fourth..well I’m not sure about but they are all of prime age and daddy and mommy voted for this! (so I get my kicks in an unusual way).
I have a better Idea Let’s Create JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are the party of defeat and he wants National Service? These idiots really need to be run out on rails, tarred and feathered and then imprisoned for their crimes against the country but I guess treason doesn’t matter anymore.
Legal/Illegal. Great way to make Illegals really Illegal!
Nice way to boost the civilian security force, like the ones that Hitler and Stalin had.
I shudder to think who he’s going to propose run it or put in it as officers.
Maybe the guy with the baton who wasn’t involved in voter intimidation in Philly?
Rangel did this a couple times during W’s presidency as well. I have a lib brother (well 2 of them actually), and he is very very anti war. He told me once that W wanted to start the draft, and asked me “how do you feel about that??” knowing I have kids, thinking that would hurt me somehow. I told him, it was a dem that wanted the draft, not W.
He would not believe me. He told me I was a liar.
I printed him articles for his next visit. I handed him the packet (i bet there were 10 articles on Rangel and his draft), he looked at one title, and tossed them on the counter, he refused to look at them. He told me if they were from the internet, they were BS, because anyone can print whatever they want on the internet, blah blah blah, you know the routine.
Libs will NOT, they CANNOT fathom that a dem would want a draft. Heck, I’ve heard kids at our college (I’m an old guy who has to take classes each year for certain stuff) talk about Nixons War. They are convinced, that Nixon started Vietnam and drafted all sorts of people. You cannot tell them it was JFK and Johnson. They just refuse to believe it. And these are kids in our college system.
I am starting to agree with some of the Europeans that we have the stupidest kids in the world in our schools. When Che is a hero, Nixon started Vietnam, Lincoln was a democrat, and W wanted a draft, etc etc etc. I start to lose hope, and wish there was a reset button.
Here goes Chuckie again ! Time for upchuck to retire !
I am going to take a guess here:
1) He wants a draft to basically “erase” the unemployment problem.
2) Indoctrination and dependency
3) Special benefits which FedGov can manipulate/buy votes
How am I doing?
I pay exorbitant taxes to the state and that’s all you S.O.W.s will ever get from me.
Interesting and predictable. How can a constant state of denial by these people be explained? It’s like trying to reason with a rock. They can be shown, in writing, the facts about a subject, just as you did with your brother and the reaction is the same as his. Dismiss the message as false...it’s from the internet (which they use generously to spread lies).
I don’t know if you’ll recall, but during the campaign there was a Youtube vid released of Obama with an ABC reporter during an interview. During that interview Obama slipped up and called himself a Muslim and the reporter actually leaned in and said “you mean Christian don’t you?” at which point the Marxist reversed course.
Anyway, I emailed that video to a jewish friend of mine and his retort? It’s from the internet! and proceeded to berate me and insinuate that I didn’t do research, that I was a kook for believing that etc etc.
Like you I have little faith regarding these people and yes, some of the youth. But I also see many good things from the young people and many are conservative as well. We don’t know how this will shake out but I do know: Truth always, always will prevail. It cannot be hidden forever. In truth we gather strength and that’s how we will defeat this enemy.
If this succeeds, my national service will be conducted with pitchforks and torches.
It wasn’t called slavery, in the old days it was called conscription.
Let's have a Web-ex. I'll send you an invite from my "GoToMeeting.com" account.