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Coroner's inquest into deadly Costco shooting delayed indefinitely(NV)
ktnv.com ^ | 28 July, 2010 | NA

Posted on 07/28/2010 6:45:39 AM PDT by marktwain

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV)- There's been a delay in the process to determine exactly what happened in a fatal police shooting in front of the Costco store in Summerlin. The Clark County District Attorney's office has requested that the coroner's inquest be postponed indefinitely.

That inquest was set for September 3rd, to determine if three officers were justified in the use of deadly force against Erik Scott. Scott was kill by police gunfire on July 10th.

Clark County District Attorney David Roger says his office asked for the delay partly because they have not yet received witness statements and reports from Metro Police. Roger also says there may be hundreds of witnesses to sift through because the shooting happened on a busy Saturday afternoon.

"There are some people who do not believe in the coroner's inquest system. We're not going to change their minds. What we are concerned about is providing a complete record to the members of the public that will choose to sit on this inquest jury," said David Roger.

Roger says police are flooded with people calling to give information. He says deciding which witnesses will be called to testify and issuing subpoenas is a process in and of itself.

"I'm sensitive to the decedents family members and their desire to have a speedy response, but we want to do our part, and we want to get it right," added Roger.

The attorney representing a grieving family is questioning the transparency of what is happening.

"We're going on our third week now since three officers shot Erik Scott, putting five bullets in his back, and we're demanding answers," said attorney Ross Goodman, representing the Scott family.

Goodman claims Scott was shot once in the chest, once in the shoulder and five times in the back. He says his biggest frustration lies in two key pieces of evidence that remain out of reach.

Thus far, Metro has refused to release the 911 tapes. Police are also saying that there may have been a glitch in Costco's surveillance system, and the cameras may have not recorded the ordeal. Metro says the hard drives have been sent to California for forensic analysis.

"We know there were four cameras outside of Costco that would've captured the shooting. We know that there was a camera within Costco, on the aisle, which would've covered allegations that Mr. Scott was acting erratically," said Goodman. "All they have to do is provide video and the tapes."

Police claim Erik Scott pointed his gun at them outside the store's entrance after destroying merchandise and acting erratically. There are reports from witnesses that dispute all of that.

"These witnesses are professionals, doctors, lawyers, very credible people, who say unequivocally, Mr. Scott wasn't posing any threat to the officers," Goodman went on to say.

Family and friends of Scott, a West Point Graduate, have said all along that he had a concealed weapons permit but never would've pointed a gun at an officer. His closest friend says this delayed inquest is only putting off closure for loved ones.

"Respect the process? What about respecting the family? I mean, there's a loss of life. What about providing the evidence to the family, so they can reviewed what happened, so they can understand what happened to their son," said Mike Pusateri, who talked with Scott through text message less than an hour before the shooting.

The Clark County District Attorney's Office says another reason for the delay is that the original inquest date was set for the day before labor day. Due to the extensive amount of witnesses, David Roger says the inquest will likely take two days, and he doesn't want proceedings split up by a holiday.

The inquest delay comes days after the family of Erik Scott begun a campaign to try and find out what really happened that Saturday afternoon when he was shot and killed by Metro officers.

Seven electronic billboards have gone up around Las Vegas asking for witnesses to come forward in the Costco shooting of Erik Scott.

Metro is not saying much about the billboards, or the shooting, except for what was said in previous interviews with Action News. All seven of the billboards are paid for by donations from friends of the Scott family.

Stay with Action News.


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This doesn't look good. The hard drive has been sent to California for forensic analysis. No information if the police took pictures of the crime scene immediately after the shooting, or of the aisle in the store where Erik Scott supposedly "destroyed merchandise". The witnesses say Erik's body was grabbed from the floor without any concern for destruction of evidence, and that it was handled like a sack of potatoes.
1 posted on 07/28/2010 6:45:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Yep a “good-ole-fashion” Clark County, NV DA and Las Vegas Metro Police cover-up is going on right now.


2 posted on 07/28/2010 6:49:40 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: marktwain
Here is a supposed eyewitness account from a previous post:

From the comments on the channel 8 news story:
“I couldn't agree with you more....My wife and I were 7 or 8 feet away from the shooting as were the police. We were to the suspects immediate right. We heard and saw the 3 police officers shouting to the man in question to ‘get on your knees’ several times. At that point the man appeared somewhat stunned by the commotion and shouting of the police. His Right arm went up in a defenseless position and it appeared his left arm appeared to be going up but there was NO gun in his hand. He was taserd and shot at the same time. At no time did the man in question ever raise his voice, shout an obscenity or become confrontational with the police. We saw the disabled man stooping to his right facing us with what appeared to be a bullet wound in his upper chest with blood coming from the wound and immediately his eyes became glossy as he began to convulse. At this point he was no threat to anyone, both hands were in full view of us and there was no gun. As he was down, the police continued to shout ‘put the gun down’ several times...but there was no gun in his hand as we had full vantage point view. The injured man was having agonal respirations, he was down when the second volly of bullets rang out. There was no doubt in question that following the second barrage of bullets the man was dead. His girlfriend was to the back side of us and began to scream.....why did you kill him, he is a military man with a license to carry a concealed weapon. You didn't need to kill him....you didn't need to kill him.
An officer then came up to the injured man who in my opinion was a ‘dead’ man’, was cuffed with his hands behind his back and no attempt by the officer to determine if the man was alive or dead. No apparent life saving aid was given to the ‘downed’ man. The man was totally lifeless when the Paramedics arrived on scene. I was absolutely surprised to see that no attempt at aggressive ACLS was engaged. They simply just picked up the body like a ‘sack of potatoes’ and hurled him onto the gurney and into the ambulance This was a crime scene.... the crime scene was violated. One of the paramedics who attended to an injured elderly lady said the man was dead. There was a dead man in front of Costco. What nobody is talking about is that there were many many spectators, many like ourselves within just a few feet of the victim when the shots rang out. It seems to me that the greater danger was posed not by the victim but by the police who fired many shots in the vicinity of the innocent public. I agree with you, I hope the media and your friends family can get their hands of Costco's Camera's which will indeed tell the rest of the story. Also it must be confirmed whether the second gun supposedly found by the victims side was indeed also registered to him as a licensed conceal and carry.
This whole incident was a monumental tragedy; a tragedy for the family and friend and also a tragedy for the involved officers who were pushed into a needless confrontation that reached hysterical proportions due to the overreaction of certain employees and bystanders. This was a needless death.

In summary it is our opinion that the victim did not pose an immediate threat to the public.....and in the final analysis was a case of excessive force
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3 posted on 07/28/2010 6:50:07 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: US Navy Vet

Who is going to lose or contaminate the evidence?


4 posted on 07/28/2010 6:50:54 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: marktwain

I was willing to wait until all the evidence was in before sharing my opinion on this case, and as a former cop I do lean toward the police in matters like this HOWEVER, moves like this by the prosecutors’ office just really stink to high heaven of corruption in order to cover up for a few cops that *ucked up and killed a good man.


5 posted on 07/28/2010 6:51:48 AM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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To: marktwain

If it sounds like a duck.....Sounds like a cover-up to me...................


6 posted on 07/28/2010 6:52:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: marktwain
The Metro Police have demonstrated complete PR incompetence in this matter. It is impossible for an objective observer to conclude anything other than they are trying to conceal or tamper with evidence.
7 posted on 07/28/2010 6:52:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: pointsal

And who is going to “lose” the Chain-of Custody”?


8 posted on 07/28/2010 6:53:09 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: pointsal
Who is going to lose or contaminate the evidence?

They haven't decided yet..............

9 posted on 07/28/2010 6:53:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: marktwain
Police are also saying that there may have been a glitch in Costco's surveillance system, and the cameras may have not recorded the ordeal.

How convenient.

10 posted on 07/28/2010 6:53:21 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: marktwain
The brazen coverups are getting more.... brazen.

Pretty soon, the police chiefs in these sort of situations will get on camera, and start yelling, "YEAH! WE DID IT! SO F$(#ING WHAT???!? WHADDYA GONNA F$(#ING DO ABOUT IT, YA F$(#ING FISHLIPPED FAIRY??!??"

Then they'll pull out their revolver and cap the reporter right behind the ear.

And nothing will come of it.

11 posted on 07/28/2010 6:53:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: US Navy Vet

That’s still undecided as of today...........;^)


12 posted on 07/28/2010 6:54:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: marktwain
He says deciding which witnesses will be called to testify

Isn't that special?

13 posted on 07/28/2010 6:54:22 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: marktwain

sorry if this was supposed to be obvious, but are we dealing with Democrats here?


14 posted on 07/28/2010 6:56:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: marktwain

From now on every person I know who plans on taking a trip to Las Vegas will be informed of what can happen to them.

I will strongly suggest they vacation elsewhere.

The police department will get away with this. And this obviously taints my image of the much loved Las Vegas CSI shows I have watched and recorded for many years, I just cannot see them in a positive light anymore, especially if this continues to be a show of resistance for proper justice.


15 posted on 07/28/2010 6:57:45 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Exactly. IF there isn’t an ongoing coverup, then this guy is a PR bonehead.


16 posted on 07/28/2010 6:59:05 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Tijeras_Slim

or like the church lady would say, very conveeeeeeenient.

i get the sense that courts martial are conducted with more care than this will be.


17 posted on 07/28/2010 6:59:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Eye of Unk
And this obviously taints my image of the much loved Las Vegas CSI shows I have watched and recorded for many years, I just cannot see them in a positive light anymore, especially if this continues to be a show of resistance for proper justice.

ROFLOL!!!

18 posted on 07/28/2010 7:02:06 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Lazamataz
“The brazen coverups are getting more.... brazen.
Pretty soon, the police chiefs in these sort of situations will get on camera, and start yelling, “YEAH! WE DID IT! SO F$(#ING WHAT???!? WHADDYA GONNA F$(#ING DO ABOUT IT, YA F$(#ING FISHLIPPED FAIRY??!??”

Then they'll pull out their revolver and cap the reporter right behind the ear.

And nothing will come of it.”

Now Laz, that is a little over the top. Even in Putin's Russia, they claim the reporter “resisted arrest”.

19 posted on 07/28/2010 7:03:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Tijeras_Slim

gotta weed through all the potentials to find the ones that will tell the story the way the police want.


20 posted on 07/28/2010 7:04:22 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: marktwain
delay partly because they have not yet received witness statements and reports from Metro Police. Roger also says there may be hundreds of witnesses to sift through because the shooting happened on a busy Saturday afternoon.

Three officers discharged their firearms with hundreds of witnesses.

Can't wait for that video to be released.

21 posted on 07/28/2010 7:07:52 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: marktwain
Looks like the guy on the left has a future in Las Vegas Police work.


22 posted on 07/28/2010 7:08:34 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Three things you don't discuss in public; politics, religion, and choice of caliber.)
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To: mware

If they shot Rodney King, the video would have been on the evening news that day.


23 posted on 07/28/2010 7:15:25 AM PDT by Never on my watch (The Obama Administration - an outrage a day)
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To: marktwain

If you were the accused would you want evidence admitted against you simply because it was posted on the Internet?


24 posted on 07/28/2010 7:17:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Ya can’t blame um...they are just trying to be like the Chicago mob currently in the WH.


25 posted on 07/28/2010 7:19:05 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Grunthor
I was willing to wait until all the evidence was in before sharing my opinion on this case, and as a former cop I do lean toward the police in matters like this HOWEVER, moves like this by the prosecutors’ office just really stink to high heaven of corruption in order to cover up for a few cops that *ucked up and killed a good man.

Were you ever involved in such a public case involving a death that included up to fifty people claiming to be witnesses with different accounts of what they saw?

26 posted on 07/28/2010 7:19:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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“Were you ever involved in such a public case involving a death that included up to fifty people claiming to be witnesses with different accounts of what they saw?”

No, why?


27 posted on 07/28/2010 7:20:58 AM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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To: marktwain

Five in the back?

That explanation should be interesting.


28 posted on 07/28/2010 7:21:34 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Moonman62
“If you were the accused would you want evidence admitted against you simply because it was posted on the Internet?”

Of course not, but I am not the accused, nor am I an accused that is part of the organization that controls the evidence, controls the inquiry, and controls who is allowed to testify.

What is posted on the Internet is free speech. When a citizen is involved in a shooting at a convenience store, the video is available to the public within hours. If the shooter happens to be a police officer in Las Vegas, things appear to be different.

It may be that the police were justified. At the minimum, the department has mishandled the release of information from the start. The Public affairs officer changed the “official” police story three times within hours of the shooting. A select portion of the 911 call that could be interpreted to bolster the police account was released to the public, even though police said they could not release the video or tapes to the public because of the ongoing investigation.

The only way that the LVPD do not further harm their image is complete transparency. This investigation should be turned over to an independent agency. The LV government should not be in charge of investigating their own agents.

29 posted on 07/28/2010 7:27:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Moonman62
The only difference in the accounts I have heard is that some non-LEO witnesses said he ‘didn't have a gun in his hand’ and others said ‘his gun was in his holster’ (for those of you in Rio Linda, that ALSO means it was not in his hand).

So far the only “different accounts” I have seen is that the witnesses do not agree with the LEO’s, who all seem to agree that he DID have a gun in his hand.

30 posted on 07/28/2010 7:27:22 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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"...police are flooded with people calling to give information. He says deciding which witnesses will be called to testify and issuing subpoenas is a process in and of itself."

Wow, this reeks.

31 posted on 07/28/2010 7:30:17 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Centurion2000
Looks like the guy on the left has a future in Las Vegas Police work.

That's not fair to the guy on the left. The guy being shot was an NVA spy, caught in enemy territory in civilian garb instead of a uniform. The Geneva Convention states that captured spies can be summarily executed, which is what is happening here. So this was perfectly legal, while we still don't know for sure about the Costco shooting (and I have my doubts).

32 posted on 07/28/2010 7:31:18 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Centurion2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Adams_(photographer)


33 posted on 07/28/2010 7:35:27 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: Let's Roll
“Five in the back?

That explanation should be interesting.”

I do not find the “Five in the back” shots hard to understand. There is always a bit of a lag between when a decision to shoot is made, and the shots being fired. My speculation is that one of the police “jumped the gun” with the first two shots, and then the other police opened up in reaction to the shots being fired. By that time, a lag of a second or so, Erik Scott had his back to the officers, so that is where the shots hit. As far as I can tell, there was no proper crime scene analysis of shots, body placement, blood drop analysis, etc. after the shooting. That would ordinarily tell us much more about who shot when and if there was anything in Erik Scott's hand when he was shot. When a person is shot, blood tends to fly all over the place, so a good analysis can determine a lot from the orientation and placement of minuscule blood droplets.

Real world forensics is not like CSI, but an amazing amount of information can be gleaned if good crime scene evidence collection is done.

34 posted on 07/28/2010 7:35:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
As a Nevadan I think this stinks. If I were a witness I would go and give my statement to the FBI or at least the Clark County Sheriff. Metro has no business in this right now.
35 posted on 07/28/2010 7:37:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: allmendream

Being a former cop, if I did what these cops did I would have been indicted. The 2 front shots would be justified if, and I say if he had a gun in his hand and was deemed a threat. However 5 in the back while he was down and not a threat is excessive and there is no way in hell they can justify that. Also I read that he had been tasered as well. These cops are going to jail. And if the local DA won’t indict, you can be sure that the federal DA for that district will.


36 posted on 07/28/2010 7:39:01 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: marktwain

If that is tire this was a bad shooting. Makes me sick.


37 posted on 07/28/2010 7:39:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: CA Conservative
“That's not fair to the guy on the left. The guy being shot was an NVA spy, caught in enemy territory in civilian garb instead of a uniform. The Geneva Convention states that captured spies can be summarily executed, which is what is happening here. So this was perfectly legal, while we still don't know for sure about the Costco shooting (and I have my doubts).”

I recall that the guy being shot was part of a “hit squad” of NVA during the Tet offensive, that had been captured from the scene of where the officer doing the shooting’s family had been slaughtered. It has been a while.

38 posted on 07/28/2010 7:39:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: mad_as_he$$

tire=true. More coffee please miss.


39 posted on 07/28/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Lazamataz

The brazen coverups are getting more.... brazen.
Pretty soon, the police chiefs in these sort of situations will get on camera, and start yelling, “YEAH! WE DID IT! SO F$(#ING WHAT???!? WHADDYA GONNA F$(#ING DO ABOUT IT, YA F$(#ING FISHLIPPED FAIRY??!??”

Then they’ll pull out their revolver and cap the reporter right behind the ear.

And nothing will come of it.

*********************************************************************************

Your point being......?

Welcome to the 21st Century, Mr. L!

And you thought that the 20th Century was a hellish mess - wait’ll you see what the State has in store for you now!


40 posted on 07/28/2010 8:03:35 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: marktwain
I still entertain the possibility
that this was a Professional Hit.

41 posted on 07/28/2010 8:14:06 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: allmendream; Moonman62; marktwain
This is a better article.

Here's the conflict,

But the 72-year-old man, in addition to another witness reached Monday, said they did see the weapon and did see Scott reach for it.

The man said he saw Scott reach with his right hand and pull out what appeared to be a gun in a zippered holster. He recognized the holster, he said, because he has one like it. Officers then fired, and the man saw the gun fall out of Scott's hand. The witness did not see Scott point the gun at officers.

The second witness, who also spoke on the condition that his name not be used, was standing near the entrance when he said he heard police shout, "Get down on the ground. Get down now."

He turned to see why police were yelling, he said, and saw Scott reaching for what appeared to be a pistol in his waistband. The witness said he recognized the butt of the gun and immediately turned toward his wife and covered her as they dove to the ground.

"He was definitely reaching for the gun," the man said.

And we haven't heard from the store employees yet. Someone called the cops for some reason.

42 posted on 07/28/2010 8:15:18 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: marktwain

It’s going to take some time to get the videotape to line up with the officers’ stories!


43 posted on 07/28/2010 8:24:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Grunthor

I ask because there is a lot of work involved in such a case, and it takes time to do it right.


44 posted on 07/28/2010 8:29:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: Lazamataz
The brazen coverups are getting more.... brazen.
Pretty soon, the police chiefs in these sort of situations will get on camera, and start yelling, "YEAH! WE DID IT! SO F$(#ING WHAT???!? WHADDYA GONNA F$(#ING DO ABOUT IT, YA F$(#ING FISHLIPPED FAIRY??!??"
Then they'll pull out their revolver and cap the reporter right behind the ear.
And nothing will come of it.

Welcome to Mexico, Señior Lazamataz... it seems you owe us $20 to keep from "resisting arrest"...

45 posted on 07/28/2010 8:54:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Nah, they’ll just film a “dramatic reenactment” and submit that as evidence...
[/sarc][/cynic]


46 posted on 07/28/2010 9:01:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain

An independent body should be doing the inquest.


47 posted on 07/28/2010 9:25:42 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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To: Centurion2000

Iconic photo - do you know the real story of this photo?

The (now) dead guy had just murdered the officer’s entire family just minutes before wife and children - I would have some the same.

Says a lot that his troops left the asshat alive for the boss to deal with him.....


48 posted on 07/28/2010 9:51:23 AM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: ASOC
I forget to add “Your post is most seriously in bad bad taste” - what if the family was alerted to the thread?
49 posted on 07/28/2010 9:54:23 AM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: glorgau

as the esteemed FReeper HiTech Redneck remarked earlier
just put a raw disk image out on the Internet.


50 posted on 07/28/2010 2:23:50 PM PDT by cycjec
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