Posted on 07/29/2010 8:41:22 PM PDT by TheHawksNest
If you had read his removed remark you would understand this.
I'd leave "commie" out of that list. Because it was the commie, and the Brit, media that put out the first "rumors". Also substitute Roosevelt supporting for Obama supporting. It was dismissed as anti-German propaganda, along the lines of what was seen from both sides during WW-I.
I also think its something of a stretch to see this as supporting the pro-queer, pro-abortion agenda. That is the outrage over the practice. The practice itself is very anti-family and anti normal marriage. The whole point is to make the girl undesirable. It doesn't work for those with rape as their intent, but what does it do in the case of men with more honorable intentions?
As you said, these are some of the same people who practice clitoral removal on their daughters. Why would you not believe they were using other methods of suppressing the girls' sexuality?
I believe next to nothing from the liberal media so I am not just going to believe this either.
Since there is not that much non liberal media reporting out of Africa, you have to look for clues, such as internal consistency, multiple independent reports, etc.
The story fits the liberal agenda that men are no good beasts, but it does not in the sense that the mothers, mothers of color no less, are also the heavies in the story. Usually they are portrayed as the victims of the aforementioned beasts.
I stand by what I said as I said reported not rumored.
I guess my problem is that it is hard for me to care about these people as they have being living like this forever and will continue to do so unless AIDS or soccer kills them off.
Sensationalist LIBERAL "journalism" sure ain't going to raise my interest.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2562002/posts
This is real abuse.
Let’s quit bickering on this thread.
Where’s NOW? Any comment?
No?
Since you have graciously offered an olive branch I will accept. And offer my own back.
Oh don’t get me started on the atrocities of Islam.
One thing that people fail to understand is that Libs are very good at taking real atrocities against women and finding solutions that fit their agenda. This is how they have hijacked so many issues.
Conservatives have the responsibility (especially Christians)of speaking up about atrocities and offering Christian solutions. The breast mutilating happens and is seen as a way to make girls not develop and become sexually attractive. Rape prevention is also given as a reason. But the solution is not Planned Parenthood style sex ed or access to birth control. Indeed that solution contradicts what we are told as it does encourage sexual activity. Remember we are talking about young girls here. What kind of warped minds thinks it is o.k. for them to be having sex? Oh wait I already answered that.
The solution is to educate moms why such practice is inhumane and to stress the Christian teaching on sexuality and its respect for the whole person.
Christian teaching teaches that human beings are valuable because they are made in the image and likeness of God.
We teach that human beings are valuable because Christ Himself was fully human and fully divine. We do not see women’s value only in her ability to be sexually attractive. Therefore we do not make the mistake of assuming we must mutilate her to reduce her value or worth. And we don’t support pervert education so a woman or girl can be “safely” objectified.
Both the mutilation and the lib answer to it are the two sides of the same coin. Viewing females solely as sexual objects. Christian teaching says not to do this. It says we matter. We have value apart from what we are to other people. Christianity is a religion that is truly pro person. It is pro men, pro women, pro children.
I have no hesitation in saying this is not true of Islam or of those who follow PP notions on women’s issues.
I am not convinced of any mutilations.
seriously.
Did you not read my words about my parents putting a brick on my head? Do you think i made that up? Do you think i am an oddity? I am not, I assure you.
I posted the personal anecdote to show how silly parents are and how silly parents even realize they are being(but more importantly, how unintelligent the general public is) They continue to do so out of tradition. It is not an evil torture thing. It’s a test, or lesson. It got started to teach kids to NOT BE FOOLED. same as the old “pull my finger” gag. i’m out of examples but i guarantee you if I leave here for a day and come back my cousins and second cousins and siblings will have my head FULL OF SUCH EXAMPLES.
you people live in a bubble.
I live in a quasi bubble.
I grew up in a city, raised by parents that grew up in a city, but worked for their aunts and uncles and grandparents on the farm whenever need be and every summer even if not needed(the farm was everything). I was forced to do the same in the summers regardless of need and there never was a need. My time was spent doing tasks with no deadline. It was like a summer camp.
But I still learned real life and the old traditions. i would trade it for nothing.
I will tell you that people that fall for this nonsense are people that never learned real life. wether it be farm, military, or any other institution that is “sink or swim”.
So, to summarize, I’m sorry you are all being fooled.
You assume I and others who replied against the practice just simply took the word of the original article. I for one did a search on the practice.
I have to ask why would they lie? To make this region of Africa appear even more miserable? To make the condition most woman there (not just woman) have to endure seem even more intolerable? What do they have to gain by lying?
That’s where you fail. You fail by not supposing the purpose of lying(in this situation).
No.
You fail by refusing to even acknowledging the possibility that someone else might entertain the possibility of lying about this matter.
This is why I am right and you are wrong.
The reason I put "rumored" in quotes was because that's what those who did not believe the reports called them.
But even the most pro German types, like Joe Kennedy, were not allowed anywhere near the camps to do a real "report".
Although aerial photos showed something was there, it was good while before they figured out what all the chimneys were for. The photo interpreters thought it was a slave labor camp, and the ovens were part of the industrial side of it. Wrong! Well not completely wrong. It was an industrial operation in the same way a slaughterhouse is.
Just when you think you’ve seen it all.
Put "breast ironing Africa" into your search engine of choice. You'll get lots of stories, by different reporters of different persuasions.
I suspect the burns and other really horrific damages are extraordinary cases, where the mother gets a bit too enthusiastic. But the ironing, often, but not always, with hot objects, does happen.
Put "breast ironing Africa" into your search engine of choice. You'll get lots of stories, by different reporters of different persuasions.
I suspect the burns and other really horrific damages are extraordinary cases, where the mother gets a bit too enthusiastic. But the ironing, often, but not always, with hot objects, does happen.
I just don’t care about these people.
As to the death camps they were real. There were reports not just rumors. Reports by other than liberal dipshits too. Believable reports.
Of course they were real, but the early reports were not believed. They really weren't believed by most people until the camps were liberated by US and western allied forces. The Russians were not believed either, and they liberated several camps before the western allies did, since most of the camps were in the area Roosevelt had conceded to them. Just more anti German propaganda, it was thought.
Nah. They’re one of those really really really backwards African nations where the majority still practice “tribal” religions. The hippies call that being one with nature. In reality it’s a bunch of crazed superstition that occasionally devolves into cannibalism.
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