Posted on 07/30/2010 7:18:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Its been underway but we’ve been told that we shouldn’t worry about it.
LATEST ATTACK ON THE CONSTITUTION :
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/07/mass_legislatur.html?p1=News_links
Mass. Legislature approves plan to bypass Electoral College
By Martin Finucane, Globe Staff
The Massachusetts Legislature has approved a new law intended to bypass the Electoral College system and ensure that the winner of the presidential election is determined by the national popular vote.
“What we are submitting is the idea that the president should be selected by the majority of people in the United States of America,” Senator James B. Eldridge, an Acton Democrat, said before the Senate voted to enact the bill.
Under the new bill, he said, “Every vote will be of the same weight across the country.”
But Senate minority leader Richard Tisei said the state was meddling with a system that was “tried and true” since the founding of the country.
“We’ve had a lot of bad ideas come through this chamber over the years, but this is going to be one of the worst ideas that has surfaced and actually garnered some support,” said Tisei, who is also the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor.
The bill, which passed on a 28-to-9 vote, now heads to Democratic Governor Deval Patrick’s desk. The governor has said in the past that he supports the bill, said his spokeswoman Kim Haberlin.
Under the law, which was enacted by the House last week, all 12 of the state’s electoral votes would be awarded to the candidate who receives the most votes nationally.
Supporters are campaigning, state by state, to get such bills enacted. Once states accounting for a majority of the electoral votes (or 270 of 538) have enacted the laws, the candidate winning the most votes nationally would be assured a majority of Electoral College votes. That would hold true no matter how the other states vote and how their electoral votes are distributed.
Illinois, New Jersey, Hawaii, Maryland, and Washington have already approved the legislation, according to the National Popular Vote campaign’s website. The new system would only go into effect once a sufficient number of states have passed laws that would make it work.
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the majority of the states that have approved it are blue states, such as Maryland, which would undercut their own voters.
[The argument for or against the Electoral College is a close one]
No it’s not.
Good. "Democracy" is one step up from "mob rule".
If the ideal electoral system is one which maximizes the liklihood of one voter's individual vote turning the course of the election, the Electoral College implements that.
Mathematical proof here: Math Against Tyranny
Further, the Electoral College is a firewall against electoral fraud.
Under a "National Popular Vote" system, fraudulogenic ballots generated where people "Vote early and vote often" will poison the national ballot pool, whereas under the Electoral College, it doesn't matter if a candidate gets 1000% (not a typo) of the popular vote in a given state, they still only get that state's allotment of Electoral Votes.
There are so many facets to the electoral college that it is far too deep for most on the left to understand it beyond the idea that “those red[neck] states get more votes than us”.
I really hope that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts goes forward with this. I can’t wait to see Massachusetts’ electoral votes go towards the Republican candidate in 2012 even though a majority of Massachusetts voted Dem.
There is NO WAY this ridiculous idea could pass constitutional muster. Well, maybe in the 9th Circus ....
Unconstitutional. Constitution prohibits compacts or agreements among states. One state passing a law that doesn’t take effect until other states pass the same law is clearly prohibited.
Well, I guess I am not terribly worried-yet. If bluer-than-blue states like M-ASS-achusetts adopt this it is no big deal. They are locks for the Dem in any case, and a Republican Presidential candidate need not go there at all under any electoral system. If this becomes national, we’re screwed.
Direct election of senators was touted by the Progressives as the way to ensure that sneators wouldd be directly responsible to the People. The result, however, has been that big money interests from outside a given state can grossly affect the outcome. If you don’t believe so, check into the donations of the campaigns of your own senators. You will find that hte Ruling Class re-inforces its own.
Eliminating the elctoral college will have the same effect on the Presidency. It is a grand way to ensure that states with smaller populations become totally irrelevant. No wonder you’ve been told to ignore the man behind the curtain.
Isn’t the point behind this to enable the manufacturing of votes, which the Democrats are very good at, to produce a fake majority of popular votes? This would allow Democrats to spread out the voter fraud more effectively and with less chance of getting caught. All they would have to do is spread “popular votes” through the country and give states that Massachusetts the cover for giving their electoral votes to the Democrat candidate.
We would be a more conservative and richer country today if George Washington had accepted being a king. The UK monarchy had a good formula going until inbreeding did them in.
Yep, multiple states are working to circumvent the Constitution.
In 2000, the reason that all Rats are pulling this crap we would have needed a NATIONWIDE county by county vote and would have had to wait for all of the mail-in ballots to arrive (of course the post office has been known to hold such ballots to skim votes).
Why? Gore’s boasted “popular vote” victory was 0.51% (half of one percent) of the total vote. And that is without 3,000 contested ballots (that the Florida Supremes approved) not being included in the Florida certified tally.
Rats can manufacture votes in a few big states easier than they can manufacture votes in a majority of states.
I am not in favor of the compact, just pointing out the irony.
Yes it is, and that, at its dark and bitter core, is the evil of this concept that goes to the very marrow if its metaphorical bones.
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