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Tehama sheriff challenges state's ammunition law
redding.com ^ | July 27, 2010 | Ryan Sabalow

Posted on 07/30/2010 8:40:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Tehama County Sheriff Clay Parker didn’t know that he would be named as the lead plaintiff on a suit challenging a new law that would require handgun ammunition buyers to register with the government.

“I wasn’t expecting that,” he said Tuesday, chuckling as he recounted opening his mail last week and seeing the civil complaint with “Sheriff Clay Parker v. The State of California” on the cover sheet.

But he doesn’t mind.

Parker said he believes that Assembly Bill 962, signed into law last fall by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, is a badly written bill that infringes on the rights of gun owners.

The law requires buyers of handgun ammunition to provide identification and leave thumbprints and personal information with registered ammo sellers.

The law also puts restrictions on online sales. Any ammo purchased over the Internet would need to be picked up at a licensed handgun ammunition dealer, similar to the way guns are bought and sold.

Parker said the law applies to the many types of ammunition that can be used in both rifles and handguns, including the cheap and popular .22-caliber rounds used by target shooting enthusiasts and small game hunters.

“The language is too broad,” he said.

The new restrictions will take effect Feb. 1, 2011.

Authored by Assemblyman Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, the bill was touted as a way to keep gang members and criminals from having easy access to bullets.

The bill passed on a party-line vote with Republicans like Assemblyman Jim Nielsen of Gerber and Grass Valley Sen. Sam Aanestad adamantly opposed.

The information collected during bullet sales would be kept on file and made available to law enforcement agencies.

Around a dozen gang-plagued cities in California have enacted similar local ordinances ...

(Excerpt) Read more at redding.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 07/30/2010 8:40:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

California has to be the most idiotic state in our land.

Just give the bitch to Mexico, along with all of the people in it. CA is BAD for the US.


2 posted on 07/30/2010 8:42:45 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: smokingfrog
Gee, this story makes my fingers itch to load some magazines...

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

3 posted on 07/30/2010 8:44:01 PM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: KoRn

There are a whole bunch of northeastern states that are trying to be more stupid and take more freedoms from the people than California.


4 posted on 07/30/2010 8:46:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Satan is a Democrat and Obama is his minion.)
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To: smokingfrog
The gun-grabbers are pathetic, and dangerous. Like that's going to stop the criminals.
5 posted on 07/30/2010 8:46:46 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: smokingfrog
Blatantly Unconstitutional, but try to get it through the courts with the 9th Circus.
6 posted on 07/30/2010 8:47:48 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I’m just curious a bit. But since gangs and criminals have little difficulty getting guns in Kali why do these idiots think another law will somehow magically stop them from getting ammo?
Won’t they just start buying ammo in other states and selling that on the streets
Too? Creating yet another black market...


7 posted on 07/30/2010 8:49:11 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: wku man
If you live in CA, you'll definitely want to stock up on some ammo before Feb. 1, 2011.
8 posted on 07/30/2010 8:50:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

We just need another country...


9 posted on 07/30/2010 8:51:58 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

I wish.


10 posted on 07/30/2010 8:54:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Satan is a Democrat and Obama is his minion.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

They’ll just have another reason to break into your house too - to steal your ammo.

I don’t see how requiring ID and a thumbprint when you buy ammo is going to help the cops solve any more crimes, either. I guess once and a while some stupid criminal/former felon is going to show up in some store to buy ammo and then get caught, but that’s about it.


11 posted on 07/30/2010 8:55:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I know folks who buy ammunition that comes in from Mexico already. Supposed to be cheaper.


12 posted on 07/30/2010 9:04:50 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: smokingfrog

Officials who have never dealt directly with criminals are prone to many fundamentally erroneous conclusions about deviant social behavior.

The rest of us who reside in the real world know better.

They need to exit “stage right”.

Things will sort themselves out.


13 posted on 07/30/2010 9:09:14 PM PDT by One Name
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To: smokingfrog

Another insane day in America.


14 posted on 07/30/2010 9:19:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (dare I say it?)
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To: P-Marlowe

Sheriff Parker: “a badly written bill that infringes on the rights of gun owners.”

Unlike the Sheriff that was sent back to elementary school.


15 posted on 07/30/2010 9:24:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: smokingfrog
When you think of your typical banga/killa walking into a sporting goods store to buy ammo, it's kinda funny:

"Yo, I need fiddy in fortie" "You got any?"

Or, more likely, sends in his girlfriend: "I'd like some forty in fiddy. No, wait, I mean. Dang! Just a minute, I'll be right back." "I gotta check what it says on the barrel, you know, next to them scratched-out numbers." "I'll be right back, baby, I promise."

16 posted on 07/30/2010 9:24:43 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: One Name
LOL, Your post....SHEESH!

"Officials who have never dealt directly with criminals are prone to many fundamentally erroneous conclusions about deviant social behavior."

"The rest of us who reside in the real world having dealt with Politicians (officials) know better."

There, maybe that's what you meant.

17 posted on 07/30/2010 9:26:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Liberalism draws criminals as excrement draws flies. Liberals are only good for bait.)
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To: KoRn
Agreed. Photobucket
18 posted on 07/30/2010 9:36:31 PM PDT by xuberalles (The Right Stuff: The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net ! http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: smokingfrog
"....easy access to bullets."

A bullet is an inanimate object without the power to do much on anything without being launched in a firearms as the result of a primer igniting a propellant powder charge inside a shellcase, after being assembled into a cartridge which is inserted into a firearm chamber......

A bullet is to a cartridge as cement is to concrete, as flour is to bread, etc. When will they ever learn?

19 posted on 07/30/2010 10:32:02 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: smokingfrog

“...keep gang members and criminals from having easy access to bullets.”

If they’re that dangerous, how about keeping their asses in jail?


20 posted on 07/30/2010 10:50:42 PM PDT by PLMerite (The FR clock is now three minutes fast.)
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To: smokingfrog

I do not live in Ca but this mad me so angry I literally just went on line and bought another 1000 rounds of ammo and ten more magazines for it.


21 posted on 07/31/2010 6:25:20 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: smokingfrog

The only people that should be banned from owning, using or possessing firearms is GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, Having lived in Ca til 2 years ago, 90% of All Peace Officers are far more dangerous than Any Gang Member to the general public. I have never quite understood why so many people freely choose to give the Jack Booted Thugs in uniform a Free Pass as well as the benefit of Doubt. I personally have known many cops, ALL OF THEM ARE CORRUPT in one way or another and Should never be Believed or trusted for any reason ever.


22 posted on 07/31/2010 8:58:57 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: smokingfrog
Authored by Assemblyman Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, the bill was touted as a way to keep gang members and criminals from having easy access to bullets.

As long as they don't give them any brass, powder or primers, I think the bullets would be fine. I'd be especially worried about the primers and powder cause they're EXPLOSIVE! ONOZ!

23 posted on 07/31/2010 9:34:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: budwiesest
You talking about the guy that own this?


24 posted on 07/31/2010 9:37:46 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rockinqsranch

A little verbose I agree.

I’ve spent my adult life dealing with felons. They come in all flavors.

Politicians really aren’t as sophisticated as a rule.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 8:21:37 PM PDT by One Name
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