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Boy Scouts Seek a Way to Rebuild Ranks
NYT ^ | 7/30/10 | Katherine Q. Seelye

Posted on 07/31/2010 4:55:57 AM PDT by Daisyjane69

FORT A.P. HILL, Va. — Her crown glinting in the morning sun, Miss America was telling 45,000 Boy Scouts and their leaders the other day how thrilled she was to be here at the National Scout Jamboree, to be among “the most amazing young women ...”

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Doug Mills/The New York Times Tom Copeland Sr. helped scouts learn to shoot a rifle. The Boy Scouts are sticking to core values and pushing for more diversity.

Whoops! The scouts, ever courteous and kind, could nonetheless barely stifle a collective groan. Some covered their faces in embarrassment. Miss America — Caressa Cameron, the former Miss Virginia — quickly recovered, apologized and explained that she usually speaks to groups of young women.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boys; boyscouts; males; scouting

1 posted on 07/31/2010 4:55:59 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: Daisyjane69

I was, of course, a boy scout in the 50s.
Yes, it was god and country back then.
No doubt they will soon change their name to “Pioneers”,
the Commie version of the Boy, as well as Girl Scouts.


2 posted on 07/31/2010 5:01:45 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Daisyjane69

Whoa, the comments that follow the article are something else. meh

It is the NY Slimes, of course. :)


3 posted on 07/31/2010 5:02:50 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

Chuck Norris, please pick up the courtesy phone.


4 posted on 07/31/2010 5:04:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Daisyjane69

“Why did I come here? No pledging the flag for me. And, ah, .....
according to the telepromter in front of me,
a Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind,
obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent. ....
And …., ah, well, I have been friendly.”


5 posted on 07/31/2010 5:07:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Diogenesis

I’ll sure be happy when this country turns back to “normal.”


6 posted on 07/31/2010 5:16:21 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: wku man

scouts out?


7 posted on 07/31/2010 5:24:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: AlexW

Did the Scout enrollment boom come from the Baby Boom? I’d like to see what percentage of boys that could be scouts, are scouts. That would mean more. Economic factors may affect this as well (my brother was a Scout, but my folks were not wealthy enough to support me being a Scout too).


8 posted on 07/31/2010 5:29:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Did the Scout enrollment boom come from the Baby Boom?”

I do not think so.
I think my father said that he had been a scout. I guess it would have been in the 20s.
My brothers, 7 years older then me were scouts, early 50s, and me in mid to late 50s.
Naturally, there would have been a great increase from the baby boom, but that is just a matter of numbers, and little to do with culture.


9 posted on 07/31/2010 5:41:20 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

historically, some 10% of boys have been involved in scouts and that level has mostly held over time. In my town, I have seen some drop off though.


10 posted on 07/31/2010 5:54:51 AM PDT by bioqubit
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To: bioqubit
How much of the drop off is also related to a decline in the number of children in American families? If 10-20% of kids have Mexican parents, then only 80-90% are from families that might have a family history with Scouts.

In short, changing demographics has led to a decline in the number of possible legacy Scouts (joining because Dad did) even as the number of children is stable.

11 posted on 07/31/2010 6:05:56 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

look at the percentage of societal high achievers who were Boy Scouts

http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/ScoutingFacts.aspx

Don’t know the same for Girl Scouts but know that many women astronauts are former GS


12 posted on 07/31/2010 6:24:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Daisyjane69
Typical screed from the NYSlimes.

Very much a hit piece.


13 posted on 07/31/2010 6:39:29 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Cavalry motto/rallying cry. Something like, "okay scouts, get out there and find the enemy". It's become my personal motto since I left the Cav.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

14 posted on 07/31/2010 6:41:21 AM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A business associate of mine who is very active in Scouting tells me that the Boy Scouts are facing enrollment challenges for two basic reasons: (1) as this nation has become more urbanized, we’ve lost our sense of the value of the natural world, and (2) the number of children born to American parents has declined over time, and the Boy Scouts have a very hard time attracting members from immigrant families.


15 posted on 07/31/2010 7:47:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Daisyjane69

This piece is not very indicative of what is actually going on in scouts. It seems to be a typical liberal hit piece that misses the point of what the scouts are. My boys have been involved in scouts for years. My oldest just picked up Eagle. Our troop is large and very active.

Should girls be allowed in? No, it’s the Boy Scouts. I believe young men need to be surrounded by men to learn to be good men and busy learning survival skills, etc. Busy minds and hands stay out of trouble.

Parents worried that your children aren’t safe? Get involved! Know who the adult scouters are, go on camping trips, join the troop. Things can happen anywhere at anytime. There are no guarantees, but if you are involved in your child’s life, actively, there is less chance.

The scouts are one of the best things that we ever got involved in. It has helped our oldest to get out of trouble and stay out. It has allowed my husband and boys to have time together and bond in a very meaningful way. The men involved in our troop truly care about the boys and want to help them.

I think this is more indicative of what scouts are about:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2561454/posts


16 posted on 07/31/2010 7:50:10 AM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: Daisyjane69
Grandson, soon to be Eagle, is there & having a great time.

His Eagle daddy also attended one, said he enjoyed it a lot.

Jamboree attendance from his council is down quite a bit, mostly due to high cost (about $2,000 per kid in a pared-down trip from S. Georgia).

Even after cutting out side trips etc., cost was high enough that the council came up about 20% short of the normal number that would be expected to go.

17 posted on 07/31/2010 7:52:25 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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18 posted on 07/31/2010 7:57:30 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
Girls are already allowed in -- after age 14, to Explorers or Venturers.

My daughter hated the Girl Scouts -- part of it is the different structure from the top down, which discourages a lot of the cool stuff that the BSA does, part of it is the local troop which was full of what we call Dunwoody Debs (Dunwoody being one of the local upscale suburbs).

The day after her 14th birthday she joined the local Venture Crew and had a ball. She earned her Outdoor Bronze Award and went to all sorts of wonderful places.

19 posted on 07/31/2010 11:02:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle; Daisyjane69; SandRat

I am a Boy Scout leader, and I was a Girl Scout leader for 10 years. I firmly believe that each organization serves important development needs of its members, and I wouldn’t want to see either go coed.

However, Venture Scouting is for older scouts, and it is coed. Many of the girls in Venture are sisters of Boy Scouts or are former Girl Scouts who weren’t satisfied with GS activities. I know BSA National is a true believer in Venturing, but for some reason, it’s a hard sell on the local level. Many Scoutmasters don’t want to encourage anything that might compete with their own programs. That’s a shame, because Venturing provides real opportunity for the future of Scouting.

Venture Crews are not allowed to nominate for OA, though, and I think that’s a mistake.


20 posted on 07/31/2010 11:23:00 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: Daisyjane69

Scouts have been hit hard by local school districts denying them access for recruitment, let alone providing information.

In our area, the local school districts have shut us out.

Then, there is the surreptitious hit pieces by the slimes and other so-called journalists.

I read one comment that referred to an article the NY slimes did concerning a “paramilitary wing” of the BSA. I’ve been involved for many years and have never heard even a whisper of such a thing.

If whites are the only ones who see value in Scouting, how is that our fault? The outreach to hispanics, asians, blacks, etc. has been going on for years.

My son is working on his Eagle, and will be the better for it. It’s a shame other parents aren’t willing to make some small sacrifices for their kids to get something positive out of life and to interact with other kids from other backgrounds.


21 posted on 07/31/2010 7:49:20 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2009. Life begins anew.)
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To: Alberta's Child
There is another movement to get Scouting back to its real roots.

These Scouts are into the old fashioned movement focused on adventure.

THe link leads to a WIki on the movement - very intersting....

22 posted on 07/31/2010 8:30:54 PM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: SmithL
Lots of discussion going on at National and at Regional with Councils on that subject. Since adult women Scout Leaders can be Nominated/Elected to OA and a number of Venture crews are supporting County Search and Rescue, Climbing, Rappelling in various Councils the push is on.
23 posted on 08/01/2010 8:06:29 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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