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Bill Kristol: Republicans Should ‘Just Shut Up’ About Charlie Rangel (Tax-cheat Charlie agrees?)
Mediaite.com ^ | 8/01/10 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 08/01/2010 12:13:47 PM PDT by Libloather

Bill Kristol: Republicans Should ‘Just Shut Up’ About Charlie Rangel
by Glynnis MacNicol | 1:02 pm, August 1st, 2010

I’m not entirely sure this is the sort of support Charlie Rangel is ideally hoping for, but one imagines that after the President not-so-gently makes it clear he would like you to quietly exit stage left, this may be the best you can expect. On Fox News Sunday today Bill Kristol declared that the Republicans should leave Charlie Rangel alone.

I think Republicans would be foolish [to go on about Rangel]. They should just shut up. There’s a bipartisan effort, let the process go forward. They don’t need to jump on this. Believe me there are plenty of congressmen in both parties that have been imperial an arrogant….Demcrats are going to lose the house and suffer the loss of a lot of Senate seats because of their policies, just like Republicans did in ‘05 and ‘06. And I think the idea that Republicans should just go around throwing stones at Charlie Rangel is just foolish.

Meanwhile, on This Week, George Will speculated that the reason Rangel is getting so much more attention than the equally embattled Mark Ensign is because Rangel is more important. Sort of a double Catch-22. Watch Kristol’s segment below.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlie; kristol; rangel; taxes
RUSH: There you have it: 13 charges, ethics violations against Charlie Rangel. Here is -- between 2008 and the present -- the sum total of Rangel's responses to these allegations to date.

RANGEL: What are you talking about? You just trying to make copy? It's a dumb question.

RANGEL: Why don't you mind your own God (bleep)ed business?

RANGEL: Where I live and how I live? It's nobody's damn business where I live.

RANGEL: I don't pay too much attention to irresponsible reporters who report inaccuracies. False accusations have been made by a reporter.

RANGEL: Common sense dictates that members of Congress should not held responsible for wrongdoing.

RANGEL: I have to now deal with my lawyer as to what the hell do they mean.

RANGEL: Sixty years ago I survived a Chinese, uh, attack in North Korea and as a result -- having survived that -- I haven't had a bad day since. Today I have to reassess that.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_073010/content/01125112.guest.html


1 posted on 08/01/2010 12:13:50 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

If shutting-up gets him gone, let’s shut up.

I don’t see many Dems being willing to risk going under the bus themselves by supporting the guy just so he can survive to lie, cheat, and steal another day.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 12:16:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Why shouldn’t the Republicans make hay out of this? They should attack the Democrat brand at every turn.


3 posted on 08/01/2010 12:18:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, Republicans are so guilty themselves that they don’t dare speak against corruption.


4 posted on 08/01/2010 12:19:07 PM PDT by donna (Why did John McCain let it get so bad?)
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To: Libloather

Obama wants Charlie gone, because he wants the issues off of the table.
Kristol want Charlie to stay to keep the issue ON the table.


5 posted on 08/01/2010 12:20:34 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: Libloather

Kristols view is an example of why the (wanna be) Ruling Elites shouldn’t be trusted.

They are most intersested in protecting their own, or, (in this case) trying to gain favor with Those Who Rule.


6 posted on 08/01/2010 12:21:00 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five business worries of the Amercan Farmer for the past 50 years)
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To: Libloather

The GOP has done a very bad job of making this an issue. They should follow the lead of the Dems back in 2006. It worked for them.

For example, I see the liberal media always bring up Delay, Stevens, Cunningham, Gingrich, etc. and say “The GOP has also had it’s problems with ethics.” The Republican interviewees invariably agree.

But they should point out that the key difference between those guys and Rangel is the word “former.” Those guys were all forced to resign shortly after there actions became known. The Rangel investigation began 3 years ago. No charges until now, and even those are just ethics charges. Where are the criminal charges?

The Dems certainly do not hold each other to the high standards that the GOP holds its members.


7 posted on 08/01/2010 12:22:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Libloather

I want the republicans to turn the tables on the dems about the “culture of coruption” in a more general fashion. Not just target one or two, apint them all with the same brush. From Nancy’s flower budget a month to Charlie and his cohrts ethics troubles. I think gerneralizing the problem causes far more damge than targeting Rangles does.


8 posted on 08/01/2010 12:25:36 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Balding_Eagle

I agree don’t take bait about Charlie Rangle or Maxine Waters...it will be “white republicans” attacking “black a.k.a Marion Berry” thus will pump up black turnout for 2010..let it lie.


9 posted on 08/01/2010 12:26:21 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Libloather

what was the context?


10 posted on 08/01/2010 12:27:39 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: Libloather

Imagine all the secrets Rangel has...aka...”stuff on everyone else”


11 posted on 08/01/2010 12:27:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Libloather

Kristol was defending Rangel on the Special Report panel the other day too. He wants Rangel to get a slap on the wrist.


12 posted on 08/01/2010 12:31:21 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Perdogg
...what was the context?

Of what?

13 posted on 08/01/2010 12:34:15 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather
Believe me there are plenty of congressmen in both parties that have been imperial an arrogant….

And just why does Kristol believe that we should shut to protect corrupt Republicans? The media will expose them at the most inopportune moment anyway. One reason we have a primary process is to expose replace them with superior candidates.

14 posted on 08/01/2010 12:34:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

On the contrary.

Kristol wants it an issue front and center up to the election.


15 posted on 08/01/2010 12:34:46 PM PDT by HearMe
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To: Libloather

More Liberal RINO nonsense from Bill Kristol. He is one Fox News because he is a Liberal (note none of MS Fox News special correspondents are really conservatives....you cannot call any of them “Conservative”)

GOP needs to bring up Rangel AND Mad Maxine every second they get. Every GOP campaign ad needs to throw in a mention of the Black KKK Caucus Crooked Racists

Kristol is the one that needs to shut his Liberal trap. BIPARTISANSHIP is LIBERALISM....the GOP will never learn will they...if they listen to Kristol


16 posted on 08/01/2010 12:34:55 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: Libloather

BIll Kristol is one of the many perfect examples of what is wrong with the GOP, and government in general.


17 posted on 08/01/2010 12:36:45 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Libloather
I can see this whole thing really hurting the dems this fall. I don't think the pubbies should shut up, but they can pull on the rope a little to tighten the noose. They know they have their own issues, but look at what the dems did with the Foley fiasco. They could capitalize. Maybe they should leak stuff out. What the hell... the dems do it all the time to stoke the fire.

They should call out the NY dems in the House that have not condemned what Rangel did and ask why. I know my socialist loving congress critter has uttered a peep about it and normally you can't get him away from a mic or a camera.

18 posted on 08/01/2010 12:37:24 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Libloather
I know my socialist loving congress critter has hasn't uttered a peep about it and normally you can't get him away from a mic or a camera.
19 posted on 08/01/2010 12:39:18 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: donna

The stupid public who watches TV empowers them. Keep watching sheeple. TV controls the idiot sheep.


20 posted on 08/01/2010 12:43:29 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: b4its2late

Spitzer and his disgusting behavior didn’t hurt the Dems at all. The Dems love Charlie because they always know exactly how Charlie will vote...He’s kinda like Teddy the Lifequard.


21 posted on 08/01/2010 12:45:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Libloather

Bipartisan effort my sweet fanny. BS

Why don’t they go after these crooks and throw them the you know what in jail; and I don’t care what side of the fence they are on?


22 posted on 08/01/2010 12:50:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Kristol is not someone who I care for, but he is right on this. The longer that this drags on and Rangel is in power, the more of an election issue this becomes. Almost every conservative running for election in 2010 will be able to make hay out of this issue.


23 posted on 08/01/2010 12:56:19 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Libloather

As someone on another thread said, this may be a set up. With both Rangel and Waters electing full trials rather than making a deal to get a slap on the wrist and forget the whole thing, it could be a set up to get an issue against Republicans in November that they are targeting black members of Congress. Given the way these people operate that is well within the realm of possiblity, and of course if they start to stir that up the media would go full throttle to support it. It would be best to tread lightly on this given the circumstance...although corruption on a greater scale involving Pelosi and Democrats using tax dollars for private jets, payoffs to candidates to try to get them not to run, etc. could certainly be an issue that is used.


24 posted on 08/01/2010 12:57:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Libloather
Mfffphf...Let me go! Let me go, I said!!!

Oh, alright, then...all I will say is that it is incredibly interesting that Kristol would urge Pubbies to back off.

25 posted on 08/01/2010 1:02:23 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (I'm never fully dressed without a snark.)
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To: HearMe
On the contrary.

Kristol wants it an issue front and center up to the election.

"I think Republicans would be foolish [to go on about Rangel]. They should just shut up. There’s a bipartisan effort, let the process go forward. They don’t need to jump on this."

26 posted on 08/01/2010 1:10:07 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five business worries of the Amercan Farmer for the past 50 years)
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To: Libloather

“No tax please, we’re Democrats.”


27 posted on 08/01/2010 1:14:25 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: GoMonster

What about Massa, Mollohan, Murtha, et. al.? This isn’t racial.


28 posted on 08/01/2010 1:19:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Libloather

Bill Kristol=Weekly Standard=RINO New World Order “conservative”, an uppity one that looks down on Tea Party conservatives.


29 posted on 08/01/2010 1:25:46 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Republican Wildcat

“it could be a set up to get an issue against Republicans in November that they are targeting black members of Congress”

That’s the kind of thinking that all libtards want us to have, being constantly afraid of the phony race card BS. A crook is a crook is a crook. The evidence is starting to show that the public is seeing through this bait and switch BS.

We need our conservative leaders to “aggressively” go after race card players, call them out, make a big show of how phony they are rather than running and hiding in a bunker. Same goes for the pro wetback hucksters that use the same tactics.


30 posted on 08/01/2010 1:35:30 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Libloather

What Charlie Rangel has done is miniscule compared to the REAL crimes committed by Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Holder and the Marxist/ Statist Left in collusion with big business and the social elites. Stay focused on the REAL issues and the Rangel episode will take care of itself. . . . IMHO


31 posted on 08/01/2010 1:39:07 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: bigbob

Yeah, sure Bill. Can’t be NON-bipartisan, after all. It might upset the “undecideds” and the “moderates.” You know...that huge class of voters which provided victory for John McCain!!!!


32 posted on 08/01/2010 1:39:23 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: donna

Reminds me of when Hastert defended William Jefferson, D-LA. Why? Because he was afraid what they would find in Hastert’s freezer, is it a coincidence that soon afterwards Hastert himself decided to leave?


33 posted on 08/01/2010 1:41:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

Bill Kristol should just SHUT UP FULL STOP!


34 posted on 08/01/2010 1:48:02 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Libloather

Ping for later read


35 posted on 08/01/2010 1:58:47 PM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: Libloather

Prosecute all criminal behavior wherever it leads, Dems or Repubs. Of course, the majority are Dems because Repubs are always under the microscope, which is okay by me, let’s just make sure that microscope is viewing the other side too.

Come on, do your duty people.


36 posted on 08/01/2010 2:05:15 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: Libloather

Kristol is just as arrogant as the Democrat he is defending...


37 posted on 08/01/2010 2:20:02 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Libloather

No need to shoot a man who is in the act of suicide.

Politically, keep this alive as long as possible for its greatest effect.

This guy deserves his OJ trial.


38 posted on 08/01/2010 2:24:40 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Libloather

No need to shoot a man who is in the act of suicide.

Politically, keep this alive as long as possible for its greatest effect.

This guy deserves his OJ trial.


39 posted on 08/01/2010 2:24:48 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Libloather

So Kristol wants us to hold our fire while the Democrats regroup during the cease-fire?


40 posted on 08/01/2010 2:31:13 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Titus-Maximus
This guy deserves his OJ trial.

Just as long as the verdict turns out differently - eh?

41 posted on 08/01/2010 2:38:48 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Why shouldn't’t the Republicans make hay out of this?

No, The GOP has nothing to gain even if Rangel is ousted. His district will ALWAYS elect a Democrat. The RATs will make their own hay for us.

42 posted on 08/01/2010 3:58:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: Libloather

“Demcrats are going to lose the house and suffer the loss of a lot of Senate seats because of their policies, just like Republicans did in ‘05 and ‘06. And I think the idea that Republicans should just go around throwing stones at Charlie Rangel is just foolish”

I agree. He’s just another player in the Democrats demise. Hope the rats are still talking about it in November.


43 posted on 08/01/2010 4:05:57 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Frantzie
The stupid public who watches TV empowers them. Keep watching sheeple. TV controls the idiot sheep.

I'm sure that the broadcast going on in your head is so much more reliable.

44 posted on 08/01/2010 4:10:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: dfwgator; Frantzie

Remember Rep. Rostinkowski got sent to prison and they found out he was stealing furniture from the Capitol . . . or was that Foley?

Frantzie is right - all this talk is just to make us think something is working right. In truth, Obama’s supporters are just getting rid of Hillary’s supporters.


45 posted on 08/01/2010 4:41:11 PM PDT by donna (Why did John McCain let it get so bad?)
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To: Mike Darancette

Keep believing that. The serfs gave up their liberty for the TV clicker. Empowering the regime.


46 posted on 08/01/2010 6:13:17 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Libloather

Even better, why doesn`t Bill Kristol STF up! We need to use this against the enemy the way they`d use it against us!


47 posted on 08/01/2010 6:58:22 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Libloather

Kristol is a namby-pamby DOLT. I swear there is a milquetoast cancer in the GOP. People like him with no stomach to fight for what is right.


48 posted on 08/02/2010 7:17:23 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Libloather

Crystal is a closet liberal.


49 posted on 08/02/2010 5:24:12 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis Domine non nobis sed nomini tuo da gloriam)
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