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UK: The great switch off: 1000's of speed cameras to be scrapped
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | August 1, 2010

Posted on 08/01/2010 7:24:39 PM PDT by Stoat

Britain’s network of 6,000 speed cameras could be dramatically reduced after a raft of councils looked set to follow Oxfordshire’s move and switch theirs off.

The county’s entire network of 72 cameras will be switched off at midnight tonight after the coalition Government pulled the plug on their funding.

The change of heart could usher in a different landscape for Britain’s 33million motorists two decades after the first network was installed.

Already, neighbouring Buckinghamshire said it is ‘very likely’ to switch off its cameras, while Bedfordshire, Suffolk and Derbyshire have launched reviews.

 

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The moves, however, could be just the tip of the iceberg as councils battle to deal with huge reductions in central government funding while expecting further cuts.

Under the terms of the new budget, the road safety grant for 2010-11 has been slashed by 40 per cent


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: automotive; autos; bigbrother; bigbruv; britain; cars; driving; england; greatbritain; speedcameras; speedcams; uk; unitedkingdom
With few other way of funding the cameras - as the fines from speeding go to the Treasury - councils would have to pay using revenue earmarked for schools and other projects.

 

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1 posted on 08/01/2010 7:24:45 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Earth to the UK - Speeders are most definitely not good, but Muzzies are much, much worse.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 7:25:48 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

It looks like Britain is TRYing (to slowly) move away from Authoritarianism while we in America are speeding toward it!


3 posted on 08/01/2010 7:30:38 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Stoat

I hear they’re adding speeding cameras in the USA, so maybe Britain could make a profit out of these, LOL!


4 posted on 08/01/2010 7:32:14 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: JSDude1

Darn...fewer targets. The Brits have shooting, burning and painting them for the past few years.


5 posted on 08/01/2010 7:32:38 PM PDT by hal ogen (CCE)
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To: JSDude1

My understanding is that it was great sport in the UK to light a fire under them and destroy their expensive internals. With few guns, this was the best that they could do.


6 posted on 08/01/2010 7:35:56 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: James C. Bennett; JSDude1
I hear they’re adding speeding cameras in the USA, so maybe Britain could make a profit out of these, LOL!

Indeed, speed cams are becoming more and more popular on this side of the Pond.  Here, however, the speeding fines go to the local governments and so the situation is a bit different.

I have no doubt that there are many American towns that will be talking to UK Councils about buying up their unused cams.

"sigh"

7 posted on 08/01/2010 7:39:10 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: The Antiyuppie

The most popular method was to hang a tire on the camera and set it on fire.


8 posted on 08/01/2010 7:39:22 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Is that true ?? If so I have renewed respect for the British...maybe all is not lost in the UK


9 posted on 08/01/2010 7:49:50 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Stoat

Interesting - the key point being the money. Here in NC, cameras were installed with the understanding that something like 75% of proceeds would go to county education funding. The counties understood that to mean 75% after costs - paying the contractors who ran the system and billed the fines - but the education bureaucracies wanted 75% of gross receipts and sued.

In some places, the cameras are still sitting there, but they’re not turned on ... and the money has gone down the schools’ bottomless pit of declining results at higher costs.


10 posted on 08/01/2010 7:59:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you know where my son's iPod is, please FReepmail me immediately!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

frozen paintballs...


11 posted on 08/01/2010 7:59:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tax-chick

WOW....astonishing that such a misunderstanding occurred over such a very basic structural point of the agreement.
It seems that once again, the losers will be the taxpayers and the kids, as I’m sure that whatever bureaucrats were responsible will get raises and promotions instead of being shown the door (at minimum) as they should have been.

On an only marginally-related note, as it relates to driving, a couple of weeks ago I returned from a 10k mile stoatmobile tour from Seattle, through the South and back again. I LOVED the Great Smoky Mountains of NC and I do hope to visit again. The trip made me truly fall in love with the South even though I have always been a big fan. Even though there is tremendous natural beauty, rich history, magical culinary delights, gorgeous architecture and much more, I will surely be visiting again because of the tremendous warmth and friendliness of Southerners. The difference is truly remarkable and really made me not want to return home. Southern Hospitality is very real and it makes a HUGE improvement upon the quality of life in a given region.
“sigh”


12 posted on 08/01/2010 8:29:53 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: hal ogen
Darn...fewer targets. The Brits have shooting, burning and painting them for the past few years.

That's what I was thinking too.

13 posted on 08/01/2010 8:40:04 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite; hal ogen
The Brits have shooting, burning and painting them for the past few years.

The British still have some backbone.

14 posted on 08/01/2010 8:41:19 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Stoat

They are going to use satellites now to catch speeders in the UK. Much more cost effective!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7608153/New-speed-cameras-trap-motorists-from-space.html
Speeding Tickets Now Coming From Outer Space

The cameras, which combine number plate reading technology with a global positioning satellite receiver, are similar to those used in roadworks.

The AA said it believed the new system could cover a network of streets as opposed to a straight line, and was “probably geared up to zones in residential areas.”

The Home Office is testing the cameras at two sites, one in Southwark, London, and the other A374 between Antony and Torpoint in Cornwall.

The `SpeedSpike’ system, which calculates average speed between any two points in the network, has been developed by PIPS Technology Ltd, an American-owned company with a base in Hampshire.

Details of the trials are contained in a House of Commons report. The company said in its evidence that the cameras enabled “number plate capture in all weather conditions, 24 hours a day”. It also referred to the system’s “low cost” and ease of installation.

The system could be used for “main road enforcement for congestion reduction and speed enforcement”, and could help to “eliminate rat-runs” and cut speeds outside schools, it added. It could also reduce the need for speed humps.

The development of speed cameras has raised concerns about expanding state surveillance.

The Home Office said it was unable to comment on the trials because of “commercial confidentiality”.

The AA said it would watch the system “carefully” but it did not believe there was anything sinister. “It is a natural evolution of the technology that is out there,” a spokesman said.


15 posted on 08/01/2010 8:44:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They are going to use satellites now to catch speeders in the UK

  cartmandammit


Awww heck!  I hadn't heard about that.

Odd also, that they didn't mention anything about it in the Daily Mail article, and even made the point of reminding readers that the Police will still be looking out for speeders.
On top of that, one of the UK's most heralded automotive celebrities, Jeremy Clarkson from the Top Gear show, is quoted:

Top Gear host Jeremy Clarkson, who lives in the county, told the Sunday Times: ‘It will make no difference to the speed that anyone travels.’

One would think that "some" mention would have been made of the satellite system as picking up the slack left by the disappearance of the earth-based cams.
Very strange indeed.

16 posted on 08/01/2010 8:57:26 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Albeit I use cruise control an follow the speed limit I use a little data logger that records my speed acceleration etc with a DTG signature for 90 days an the I print it out. Start new on the chips flash memory.

Had a local motorcycle cop say he clocked Me doing ten over the limit.... Traffic court was a hoot !


17 posted on 08/01/2010 9:00:58 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: mick
Is that true ?? If so I have renewed respect for the British...maybe all is not lost in the UK

Oh, it's true.

Scroll through the first three pages at the link. You'll see that not only are these cameras being burned in the U.K., now they're being *blown up* as well. Another popular method is to decapitate the damned things, probably with a cordless Sawz-All. Good show!!

18 posted on 08/01/2010 9:10:44 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: JSDude1
It looks like Britain is TRYing (to slowly) move away from Authoritarianism while we in America are speeding toward it!

I think many British have looked into the abyss, and did not much like what they saw there.

Some Americans, alas, can not yet see the gaping maw of collectivism waiting and eager to devour them. Our mission in November 2010, and going forward to 2012 and beyond, is to make sure we drag America from that particular pit of Hell--if we can.

We need to remember that most people simply don't know why collectivism is a really, really, really bad idea.

They just know that it sounds really good in sound-bite format. But we on FR know that's all it is--a bumper-sticker ideology, designed to convince people who don't want to think about things like politics and their unalienable rights to give up those rights, for a bit of momentary comfort and security.

Be patient but persistent with your fellow Americans. Educate. Teach. Bring them along--slowly sometimes, but always towards liberty.

Now is the time to convince. To educate. Collectivism is failing in the USA right now. Everyone who's paying attention sees that. What people don't know is that there is an alternative.

Freedom. Liberty.

Maybe, after over a hundred years of the "progressives," we should try something new.

After all, as Einstein said, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

19 posted on 08/01/2010 9:11:55 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--I've gone rogue!)
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To: Charles Martel

Great site !! Thanks, FRiend...like weeds growing up in the cracks of concrete...freedom will find a way.


20 posted on 08/01/2010 9:18:35 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Stoat
We Arizonans also don't like speed cameras, another example of the colossal idiocy of Janet Napolitano.

Arizona Shuts Down Freeway Speed Cameras

"....activists from the group CameraFraud.com succeeded in convincing Governor Jan Brewer (R) to end the photo enforcement contract that her predecessor, Janet Napolitano (D) signed. As a result, the cameras were remotely shut down at 12:00am today.

In January 2008, Napolitano's budget predicted that 100 speed cameras would issue $165 million worth of tickets by 2010. Only 36 fixed and 42 mobile cameras were ultimately used, and the Australian company in charge of the program, Redflex Traffic Systems, mailed 1,105,935 tickets worth $200,727,202. Unfortunately for the state budget, two out of three recipients threw their citations in the trash on the advice of groups like CameraFraud and newspapers like the Phoenix New Times who correctly pointed out that unserved tickets were invalid. Only 432,367 citations were paid......"

21 posted on 08/01/2010 9:33:36 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Stoat

I love to speed. To hell with the government.


22 posted on 08/01/2010 10:03:17 PM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile

Tickets are just a “go fast tax”.

I generally get one speeding ticket a year. No big deal.

A Passport radar/laser detector, CB and the internet keep a lot of trouble away.


23 posted on 08/02/2010 5:45:03 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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