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ANALYSIS -- In California, Boxer faces toughest race yet
Fox Business ^ | Aug 2, 2010 | Reuters

Posted on 08/01/2010 11:46:20 PM PDT by SmartInsight

Of all the U.S. Senate seats Republicans hope to win from Democrats in November, there may be few they covet more than that of Barbara Boxer, the powerful California liberal facing a bruising battle with businesswoman Carly Fiorina.

But it's not only Republicans who believe that Fiorina, a multimillionaire former Hewlett-Packard CEO, has a chance to knock off Boxer. Political analysts are calling the race a toss-up, and even Boxer's own campaign sees a hard-fought race in the fall.

Voter surveys have found that the outspoken Boxer, a strong supporter of President Barack Obama's agenda and a lightning rod for conservative anger, now has unfavorable ratings of above 50 percent of Californians.

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It would really be something to knock off communist Boxer in blue-blue CA and replace her with a Republican.

I think we have a good chance.

1 posted on 08/01/2010 11:46:25 PM PDT by SmartInsight
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To: SmartInsight

I’ve already donated to Fiorina’s campaign, I may do so again closer to the election.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: SmartInsight

They should just keep playing that clip of her exchange with the general. Should at the very least get the apathetic conservatives riled up.

The woman is a traitor and a disgrace.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 12:07:53 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: SmartInsight

Carly is 100% pure RINO, so I see very little improvement if she should happen to get elected, except it strengthens RINO count, and that is not a good thing!

Kill All RINOs (politically speaking, of course) is more important than a RINO win in deep blue country.
JMHO


4 posted on 08/02/2010 12:15:28 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
so I see very little improvement if she (Fiorina) should happen to get elected

Are you serious???????????????????????????????????????

Boxer is a f'n liberal idiot and to displace her would send a huge message.

Yes, Fiorina is not an ideal candidate to support the cause, but to get Boxer out would be HUGE!

5 posted on 08/02/2010 12:21:29 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: SmartInsight
I also feel that should Fiorina and Whitman win this November, that California's electoral votes will be in play in 2012 causing the bamster and the DLC to spend time and money here when it could be spent on other races. It is truly amazing to watch him destroy his party so thoroughly in such a short time but they had it coming. Pride comes before a great fall.
6 posted on 08/02/2010 12:26:23 AM PDT by skimask
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To: Michael.SF.

Yes, Fiorina is not an ideal candidate to support the cause, but to get Boxer out would be HUGE!


She also will owe an enormous debt to Sarah Palin and after 2012 should go along with the Palin plan to overcome Obamunism.


7 posted on 08/02/2010 12:32:29 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Michael.SF.

Yes I am serious, because the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack. RINOs give the enemy cover, and allow their objectives to be accomplished, while blurring the target to retaliate against.

In all seriousness, COMMIE Boxer is preferred over RINO Carly, because the battle lines can be more clearly defined, and then subsequently eliminated!

I’m from AZ, and I suffer from Juan’s influence/betrayal.


8 posted on 08/02/2010 12:32:40 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

Well, why not be a Boxer cheerleader then?


9 posted on 08/02/2010 12:45:02 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: J Edgar

1. Do you prefer BOXER?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. Fiorina may be the one Republican Senator we need to take over the Senate. Do you prefer the Dems in charge?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. deleted so I don’t violate FR posting rules


10 posted on 08/02/2010 12:45:14 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: Michael.SF.; J Edgar
Boxer is a f'n liberal idiot and to displace her would send a huge message.

Yes, Fiorina is not an ideal candidate to support the cause, but to get Boxer out would be HUGE!

No foolin'. Apparently Jedger is an all or nothing voter and would just as soon take the worst candidate because the alternative is not the best alternative.

11 posted on 08/02/2010 12:47:49 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: J Edgar; Michael.SF.; Cobra64

J Edgar says: “the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack.”

That just shows you are either painfully ignorant about communism, even after Obama and the Dems are starting to give you a taste, OR you are a commie, trying to stir up trouble on FR.

NO real conservative would prefer Boxer to anyone, except perhaps Obama, but even that’s a toss up.

You appear to follow more the Dem strategy of “divide and conquer” the conservatives and Republicans in this election, to help the Dems eke out a victory.

Signed up Dec 5, 2009


12 posted on 08/02/2010 12:53:29 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: SmartInsight

For twenty years I have written Str. Boxer on all sorts of issues. It is an absolute waste of time. She has her extreme environmental constituency and that is it. She will ram down our throats whatever Wilderness or species whim in our county that they desire, regardless of almost universal local opposition. The only time she has ever stepped foot in the county was for the Cantara Loop railroad spill back in the beginning of 1990. ANYONE would be better than her.


13 posted on 08/02/2010 12:54:46 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Cobra64
“No foolin’. Apparently Jedger is an all or nothing voter ... “

Not really, but in this case I truly believe that Carly will morph into Boxer within one (1) year of Washington, DC corrupting pressure. I have no reason to believe she is anymore principled than B’ch Boxer.
The point here is that if GOP is dependent upon RINOs for political clout, then conservatives SHALL never survive!
Conservatives must strive to take GOP as their own, or they shall not survive. Supporting RINOs is Directly Opposite to that objective.

14 posted on 08/02/2010 12:58:04 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SmartInsight

” ... That just shows you are either painfully ignorant about communism, even after Obama and the Dems are starting to give you a taste, OR you are a commie, trying to stir up trouble on FR. ... “

I assert you cannot, nor are you capable of, reading my heart or anyone else’s!

I am stating, as strategy, that the concept of supporting the lesser of two evils has lead us directly into our present situation. Therefore, a thinking person would re-evaluate, and come up with a better plan.

My position is that NO RINOs is an absolute pre-condition to restoring Our Beloved Republic!
I also submit, that by you making wild claims of “stir up trouble on FR” is totally devoid of intellectual content, and a red-herring for you lack of analytical skills or political savvy!


15 posted on 08/02/2010 1:05:58 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
The same people cheerleading Forino are the same cheerleaders for Brown....down the line, the cheerleaders for Brown are suddenly disappointed that he has brought NOTHING to the Republicans....lol. Cheerleaders never learn. Don't they complain about the Maine Twins, Lugar, Lindsey Graham, McCain, etc.....Could it be that they just like to b!tch.
16 posted on 08/02/2010 1:14:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SmartInsight
” ... trying to stir up trouble on FR ... “

One further comment: the above slop has an unsettling resemblance to “Politically Correct”

17 posted on 08/02/2010 1:16:13 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: napscoordinator

You are So, So Correcto Mundo my insightful friend!


18 posted on 08/02/2010 1:18:11 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

Thank you....however we should prepare for cover from the RINO lover fans here at Free Republic as they prepare their assult on true conservatives like yourself.


19 posted on 08/02/2010 1:27:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

“however we should prepare for cover from the RINO lover fans here at Free Republic ... “

LOL!
May I suggest that the steel of historical fact, coupled with the edge of impeccable logic, is the only dagger of defense needed!
Preparation, therefore, consists of being informed, and of sound mind, attributes that the majority of FReepers exhibit daily!


20 posted on 08/02/2010 1:41:14 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SmartInsight
The ballot will have two box's,,,

Check here if you hate rich white people, BOXER

Check here if you love putting the black man down, FIORINA

21 posted on 08/02/2010 2:13:00 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: napscoordinator

So isn’t half a loaf is better than none? The beginning of any long journey begins with one step after another. Face it, we are saddled with Carly, if she wins, for at least 6 years. Beleive me, I am not thrilled about her winning, but considering the state she is running in, it is understandable. PLus she has been responsible for payrolls.

I honestly beleive she will pal around with McLame and Gomer but given the tide of all the new non establishment candidates elsewhere, even during the next cycle the voters in Kalifornya will start to see things a bit differently. Voting Carly in will give the fruits and nuts something to think about especially when the next cycle can bring a true non establishment conservative to take on Diane.

So do we begin the journey one step at a time or attempt to walk with both legs tied together?


22 posted on 08/02/2010 3:14:48 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77

You have some valid points for sure and are right to a certain extent, but I also know from experience that a RINO will stab us in the back many times over and we will be in a worse position for it. I begged people to wake up about Senator Brown but I was criticized like crazy but unfortunately I was correct...trust me for the sake of the United States I would gladly take a “I was wrong about Senator Brown” and he would have been voted against the Obama, but he is voting for his agenda. That is the problem right there for RINOs. If Senator Brown voted against the Obama agenda than having him as a RINO would not be a big deal.


23 posted on 08/02/2010 3:54:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I agree totally with your analysis but at least the leadership roles and the schedules of legislation brought to the floor would be controlled by the Repubics (stolen from Mark Levin). The bottom line right now is not getting involved with any infighting, perceived or not, and laying the groundwork for a true conservative wave to come. The base pour for a concrete block wall looks like hell but it is needed for the wall to stand.


24 posted on 08/02/2010 4:00:10 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: J Edgar

Your mistake may well be that Boxer’s re-election could insure more entitlement programs and entitlement programs are forever. Look worldwide when governments attempt to reduce entitlements riots ensue and governments are thrown out of office. Consider the Social Security mess.


25 posted on 08/02/2010 4:14:41 AM PDT by monocle
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To: J Edgar

If we can’t get a true conservative, due to geography, unfortunately the next best thing IS a RINO. Reason being, it’s crucial that the Republicans hold on to control of the committees.

That will stop a lot of Obama’s horseshit right in its tracks. Especially important in the House, IMO.


26 posted on 08/02/2010 4:43:41 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: J Edgar; Jim Robinson; All
"...in this case I truly believe that Carly will morph into Boxer within one (1) year of Washington, DC corrupting pressure. I have no reason to believe she is anymore principled than B’ch Boxer."

J Edgar, looks like you're catching some flak for telling it like it is. What has also been conveniently overlooked is that IF FioRINO prevails against Boxer, California isn't going to have even a lukewarm conservative in that seat, they are going to have not only a RINO, but a crony of John McCain in that office and you can bet the rent that FioRINO and McStain will be working hand-in-glove to "reach across the aisle" to give all sorts of reach-arounds to their 'Rat buddies as they stab conservatives in the back.

You are correct: if FioRINO defeats Boxer, there will be little difference. It would be gratifying to see that arrogant twat Boxer jettisoned from her seat, but if the replacement is FioRINO, there won't be much reason to celebrate so far as policies and positions are concerned.

Senator Chuck DeVore would have been a reason to celebrate, but Sarah Palin decided instead to suck up to McCain's crony, Carly FioRINO.
27 posted on 08/02/2010 5:06:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hi, Sarah Palin here, RINO Carly WON in California, let's make it 2 for 2 and re-elect McCAIN!)
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To: J Edgar
Yes I am serious, because the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack. RINOs give the enemy cover, and allow their objectives to be accomplished, while blurring the target to retaliate against.

In all seriousness, COMMIE Boxer is preferred over RINO Carly, because the battle lines can be more clearly defined, and then subsequently eliminated!

Your logic is flawed. The battle lines have been drawn clearly enough for years but Boxer has not been eliminated. What, are we cagily waiting for her to die in office of extreme old age?

We could easily fall short of recapturing the Senate this year. I'd hate for Carly's loss to be the thing that prevents the media talking heads from opening their veins on live television.

28 posted on 08/02/2010 5:10:54 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: mazda77
Plus she [FioRINO] has been responsible for payrolls.

LMAO!

ohhhh now THAT's FUNNY!

Ask the folks at Hewlett Packard what they think about Carly's tenure over there...[snicker]

"And the Mazda goes 'hmmmmmmmmmmm'" ;)

29 posted on 08/02/2010 5:10:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hi, Sarah Palin here, RINO Carly WON in California, let's make it 2 for 2 and re-elect McCAIN!)
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To: mkjessup

whoops, forgot the /sarc now didn’t I?


30 posted on 08/02/2010 5:12:18 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77

That’s ok Maz, it was funnier without it! LOL


31 posted on 08/02/2010 5:13:13 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hi, Sarah Palin here, RINO Carly WON in California, let's make it 2 for 2 and re-elect McCAIN!)
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To: mkjessup

Good to know you needed the laugh. Friend of mine has worked for HP in Kali for several years so I know too well.


32 posted on 08/02/2010 5:15:40 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77; mkjessup

The day she left the building there were courses of “Ding, Dong, The Witch is DEAD...” throughout some sites.


33 posted on 08/02/2010 5:48:46 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: J Edgar
n all seriousness, COMMIE Boxer is preferred over RINO Carly, because the battle lines can be more clearly defined, and then subsequently eliminated!

Dream on. Keep whistling past the graveyards of epic failures.
Boxer cannot be defeated by any conservative that would appeal to you. Never. Ever.
She CAN be replaced by someone like Carley, who is THEN vulnerable to being knocked off by a conservative.
Incremental change is how the lunatic left took this country over and it is the only way to get it back.
Be content with small changes or be content to lose

34 posted on 08/02/2010 5:56:35 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Charles Martel

Good to see you CM. Good post.


35 posted on 08/02/2010 6:00:21 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: J Edgar
Yes I am serious, because the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack

A RINO wont be voting for Harry Reid for Majority leader, the most important vote she will take.. If that fact is inconsequential to you, then you really are a fool.

36 posted on 08/02/2010 6:41:55 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: bill1952

“Incremental change is how the lunatic left took this country over and it is the only way to get it back. Be content with small changes or be content to lose.”

I’m with you on this one. Californians aren’t ready to elect another Reagan right now. Too much liberal brainwashing here. California needs to go purple first before it goes red again.


37 posted on 08/02/2010 6:49:11 AM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: J Edgar

You support the reelection of the ultra-liberal Democrat Barbara Boxer, bringing her up to her 24th year in the Senate, that is incredible.


38 posted on 08/02/2010 9:39:46 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: mkjessup

Fiorina manage to knock off the front runner Tom Campbell during the primary.

The reason Palin endorsed Fiorina was to stop Tom Campbell, who before the endorsement seemed to be the easy winner of the primary.

Voting started in 6 days and Tom Campbell was well ahead with 35% of the vote, and climbing.

“Campbell supports abortion rights and gay marriage, and argues that Boxer’s greatest asset against either of his two Republican opponents, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, would be the state’s decidedly un-conservative social views.

“She has always been able to move the debate over to the social issues. She will not be able to do that against me,” Campbell told POLITICO.”

“During the campaign for U.S. Senate in 2000, Campbell touted his 100 percent pro-choice voting record. He opposed a ban on “partial birth’ abortions, one of the most horrific abortion practices. (”Conservatives Agonize Backing Campbell,” Roll Call, August 7, 2000.)

Campbell in 1992 made abortion the center stage of his campaign. In the 1992 election, Campbell’s TV ad ran with the following caption: “For choice, for jobs, for U.S. Senate.” In another ad, he said, “I’m pro-choice and one of the most conservative members of Congress when it comes to spending.”In a Republican debate, he described his abortion views, as good for voters “looking for someone who is willing to break with the party line from time to time.” (Gerry Braun, “Herschensohn Won’t Pledge to Back GOP Pick; Senate Opponents Renew Acrimony in Last Debate,” San Diego Union Tribune, June 1, 1992.)


39 posted on 08/02/2010 9:46:43 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: J Edgar

So you would say that rather then moving closer to a goal we should just not move at all ????? You’d never make it in sports or life with that attitude.


40 posted on 08/02/2010 10:16:59 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: SmartInsight; Impy

Is Fiorina willing to use her personal money to win the general like she did the primary?


41 posted on 08/02/2010 5:22:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Clintonfatigued

She had better. That was one of her selling points was it not?


42 posted on 08/04/2010 12:35:50 AM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: J Edgar
the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack

When you piss into the wind, you just get wet.

(note: I Just got back from a few days off and out of touch.)

43 posted on 08/04/2010 10:31:20 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Michael.SF.

“the consequence of RINOs is more devastating than Commie attack
When you piss into the wind, you just get wet.”

Time will tell!


44 posted on 08/04/2010 11:00:49 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
Carly is 100% pure RINO, so I see very little improvement if she should happen to get elected, except it strengthens RINO count, and that is not a good thing!

You must not live in California.

45 posted on 08/04/2010 11:17:04 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

I was born in LA, raised primarily in Inglewood/Torrance area. Moved to Oxnard/Ventura area in 1980. I left Ca in 1985. Graduated from Compton Junior College (Mort Saul’s Alma Mater) and UCLA with an engineering degree.

I was there when Gov. Brown Sr. was governor, and Ronald Reagan was governor, as well as when Brown Jr (Moonbat) was governor.
I used to watch Mort Saul, and Joe Pine on TV, Cal Worthington commercials, and Jalopy Derby from Ascot Stadium on Saturdays. I have played cards at the Horseshoe Club in Gardena.

Does that answer your question?


46 posted on 08/04/2010 11:45:35 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
Does that answer your question?

It does answer one of them.

Another question...you do not think that California has changed in 25 years ?( you said that you left in 1985)

I lived in CA for 40 years now live in AZ and visit CA frequently. It has changed very much for the worse.

47 posted on 08/05/2010 10:52:54 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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