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Press Release: Army Refers Charges Against Lakin To Court Martial
Safeguard Our Constitution ^ | August 2, 2010 | Margaret Hemenway

Posted on 08/02/2010 5:29:53 AM PDT by captjanaway

Washington, D.C., August 2, 2010. The Army has now referred charges against LTC Terrence Lakin for a General Court Martial. This action triggered the appointment of a Military Judge to preside over the trial, which will likely be scheduled before October, and held in Washington, D.C. at Ft. McNair.

On August 6, 2010 at Ft. McNair in Washington, D.C., the court will convene for the purpose of Judge Lind taking Lakin’s plea to the charges which consist of “missing movement” and of refusing to obey orders. Today Lakin stated: “I am not guilty of these charges, and will plead ‘not guilty’ to them because of my conviction that our Commander-in-Chief may be ineligible under the United States Constitution to serve in that highest of all offices. The truth matters. The Constitution matters. If President Obama is a natural born citizen then the American people deserve to see proof, and if he is not, then I believe the orders in this case were illegal.” If convicted, Lakin faces up to four years at hard labor in a federal penitentiary.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; courtmartial; dncfraud; documentfraud; enemydomestic; howmanymoredeaths; kenyanincharge; lakin; naturalborncitizen; nobc; nobirthcertificate; nodocumentation; obama; soldier; usarmy
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Interesting, to say the least.
1 posted on 08/02/2010 5:29:54 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway

Sadly, the deck is stacked against him and I seriously doubt that he will even be allowed to question 0bama’s eligibility. This is despite the fact that the military emphasizes that the chain of command starts with the President.


2 posted on 08/02/2010 5:35:04 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (REAL Americans Bow to No One But The Almighty! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: captjanaway

Lakin shouldn’t refer to the usurper as Commander In Chief given his contention is that BO/BS is illegally holding office.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 5:35:42 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: captjanaway

I don’t know how this case can be tried without access to the document in question, namely, the birth certificate. What are the chances that we will finally get a peek at it?


4 posted on 08/02/2010 5:37:29 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: Juan Medén

You have a better chance of hitting the lotto the same day you get struck by lightning.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 5:41:36 AM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: Juan Medén

He missed his deployment, i.e. he went awol/deserted. The reason why is irrelevant in the courtmartial.


6 posted on 08/02/2010 5:41:49 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: captjanaway

I admire this brave man for having the courage of his convictions. Unfortunately he is probably going to go to prison for them.


7 posted on 08/02/2010 5:41:50 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: Dayman
It may just be that he would rather be sent to prison than to do what he considers to be a violation of his oath to the Constitution.

I have also asked what would happen if a member of the US military is captured and the enemy says the prisoner is not entitled to POW status because if Obama’s ineligibility. No, our enemies don't need an excuse to ignore the law and common human decency. I'm just predicting that this could happen.

8 posted on 08/02/2010 5:46:28 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: captjanaway

Unfortunately its better to be jailed for having the right beliefs than being free and having none which therefore becomes the contradiction.

America the lazy is willing to accept this pretend President, willing to prosecute others for not obeying their pretend President and will fight those if necessary to the death to protect said pretend President.

I say it builds the soul to fight for whats right, like hearing a catchy song in your head all day from the “Who”.


9 posted on 08/02/2010 5:48:25 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: GreyFriar
That is a very good point. Also, to my mind, he disobeyed HIS commanding officer's orders regardless of the status of Obama.

To make a point, my Captain orders me to go to the weapons safe and to check and clean all the rifles. And I say, “I refuse that order on the basis that Obama is a Kenyan.” I don't think that would fly.

Hate to say it guys, but I think this guy is sunk regardless of the fact that he is right in his contention.

I doubt very much that he will get much prison. My mind says, reduction in rank, chaptered out DHD, and a token 6 months serving 3. Or something like that.

They can't do nothing because he is an example now.

10 posted on 08/02/2010 5:51:02 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: captjanaway

The question of Obama’s eligibility will never be raised in the court room, which is the whole reason behind Lakin’s ill advised behavior. He will plead not guilty to the charge and specification, the trial will proceed, evidence will be heard, he will be found guilty. This will be a terrible end to a career of dedicated service and the looney lawyers who advised him to commit career suicide will walk away and look for their next victim.


11 posted on 08/02/2010 5:51:25 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: GreyFriar
"The reason why is irrelevant in the courtmartial."

The accused is allowed the opportunity to present matters of extenuation and mitigation.

12 posted on 08/02/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: captjanaway

AWOL.

Enough said.


13 posted on 08/02/2010 5:52:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: captjanaway

14 posted on 08/02/2010 5:53:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Extenuation and mitigation come in the sentencing phase, after a finding of guilty. He will serve minimal time, perhaps none, but his career is over.


15 posted on 08/02/2010 6:03:56 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
"Extenuation and mitigation come in the sentencing phase, after a finding of guilty."

True. My only point was that they are not "irrelevant in a court martial," as had been asserted.

16 posted on 08/02/2010 6:06:40 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GreyFriar

Illegal orders are irrelevant. Case closed.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 6:07:33 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

The orders issued to LTC Lakin were not illegal as he and many others are soon going to discover. This stunt is not going to achieve its purpose: forcing the release of the real Obama birth certificate, it will go the way of the other 71 attempts.


18 posted on 08/02/2010 6:17:10 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
You summarized the situation in an excellent manner.

It is disconcerting that the justifiable hatred of Obama renders so many culpably ignorant.

19 posted on 08/02/2010 6:25:12 AM PDT by verity
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To: captjanaway

Not only interesting but bizarre. Obama could not get a commercial drivers license (CDL) to drive a truck without a birth certificate!


20 posted on 08/02/2010 6:27:00 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: deport

mark


21 posted on 08/02/2010 6:36:55 AM PDT by deport
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To: GreyFriar

Guess you have not been paying attention due to NFl & NCAA games plus episodes of Hee Haw. You lost your country in 2008 - the Saudis and their allies are in control.

LTC Lakin knows our troops are sitting ducks cause intel is being back to our enemies to kill them. This is toi amuse the Saudi King and Islam. Go back to your TV shows and cheap smokes at the PX. Lakin knows what is going on - delusional idiots keep watching TV which is 100% propaganda 24x7 and Fox/Saudia is only marginally better.

Most people are too lazy or stupid to figure out what is going on.


22 posted on 08/02/2010 6:58:30 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: AppyPappy

Keep watching TV and living in a dream world Pappy. You have no clue what is going on.


23 posted on 08/02/2010 6:59:45 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: verity

The only people who are ignorant are people like you that have no clue what is going on. I bet you have no idea who the Muslim Brotherhood is.

Keep watching TV Jethro. Must be nice to be ignorant. The NFL and Hee Haw. Gomer Pyle’s brother.


24 posted on 08/02/2010 7:02:09 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

I know he is AWOL. His claim that it is allowed because he doesn’t think the President is the President is just his attempt to justify it.


25 posted on 08/02/2010 7:02:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: centurion316

“The orders issued to LTC Lakin were not illegal”

So if a soldier believed that Bush wasn’t really elected in 2000, he could have refused any order?


26 posted on 08/02/2010 7:04:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

You have no clue what is going on. You lost your country in 2008. Go back to you ball games and reruns of Hee Haw.


27 posted on 08/02/2010 7:17:28 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

Stick your fantasies and quit giving advice. You suck at it.


28 posted on 08/02/2010 7:19:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

No you have no clue as to what is going on in the USA or the military. Keep watching TV and living in your fantasy.


29 posted on 08/02/2010 7:22:00 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: AppyPappy

Legal and illegal are two different words with opposite meanings.

Larkin was issued a legal order and he will be found guilty of disobeying that order.


30 posted on 08/02/2010 7:24:27 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: GreyFriar

It is nice to see someone with some common sense here in this site....it has lately gotten to the point of supreme idiocy here...this case boils down to 2 questions and 2 answers....1) were you ordered to deploy? Answer, Yes....2) Did you deploy with your command? Answer, No...you are guilty of missing movement, regardless of the reason..


31 posted on 08/02/2010 7:27:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: centurion316

I agreed. Oath breakers are in charge.


32 posted on 08/02/2010 7:31:28 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: centurion316

I agreed. Oath breakers are in charge.


33 posted on 08/02/2010 7:31:35 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Frantzie

I’m just sayin’.


34 posted on 08/02/2010 7:33:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: centurion316

Exactly. His reason is irrelevant. He could have just as easily said “This is an illegal war”. He still goes to jail.


35 posted on 08/02/2010 7:35:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LucyT

ping


37 posted on 08/02/2010 7:37:06 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: joe fonebone

Yep. Just like my first sergeant told one of my soldiers: You can get a haircut now, or you can refuse, get an article 15 for refusing to obey an order, receive a reduction in pay for a couple of months and/or extra duty for 30 days, and then get your haircut.


38 posted on 08/02/2010 7:38:43 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: captjanaway

I will certainly honor LTC Lakin for his brave stance as he has earned it. The Constitution does matter.

Some of you, especially military men take this as a determination of his being AWOL from duty because you are trained to think that way. It is NOT.

LTC Lakin took an oath, just as all military servicemen do to protect and the defend the Constitution of the United States from foreign AND DOMESTIC enemies.

This in NOT about his being AWOL from duty as he is willing to serve as soon as our Constitutional request to be sure he is serving under LEGAL orders from a man who DEEMS HIMSELF as eligible to issue those orders when he is NOT. It is about FRAUD and TREASON...and it involves punitive damages to Americans who were frauded out of millions of dollars in Ayatollah Obama’s support. AND it involves punitive damages to Americans whose country could be deemed as committing illegal acts in world courts on our behalf by a man who is not eligible to hold the office he claims.

You need to wrap your heads around the WHOLE picture instead of the issue of his being deemed AWOL when he is NOT AWOL.


39 posted on 08/02/2010 7:41:00 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

I find it rather IRONIC that Nadal Hasan, sitting in a jail in Bell County, Texas is not considered AWOL from duty and is in fact receiving a check from the US military to the tune of $6,000/month, who murdered 13 US soldiers and one child and wounded 34 others. And who has NOT been suspended from military duty TO DATE! And you military men think that LTC Lakin is freaking AWOL from his duty station because he wants to DEFEND AND PROTECT the US Constitution as per his oath of service.


40 posted on 08/02/2010 7:47:14 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
And you military men think that LTC Lakin is freaking AWOL from his duty station because he wants to DEFEND AND PROTECT the US Constitution as per his oath of service.

How many pay checks has Lakin declined, since 20 January 2009, on the grounds that BO is a Kenyan?

41 posted on 08/02/2010 7:52:06 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: RowdyFFC

I recommend that you wrap your head around the law. If you did that you would realize that the question of Obama’s eligibility is never going to come up inside the court room. It will not be heard, it will not be argued, it will have zero impact on the case. I offer as indications that this will be the outcome, the other 71 cases that have been dismissed for one reason or another. What makes this case different is that LTC Lakin committed an offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. That offense will be heard, evidence will be presented, and a judgment will be made. Lakin is not going to like the result.

On the issue that has everyone panties in a wad, the courts have made it very clear that they are not going to deal with it. Politicians certified Obama as eligible for the Office of President. Politicians (the Electors) cast their votes for him. Politicians certified that election. The Chief Justice of the United States ratified these political actions by swearing him into office. Politicians, not the courts are going to fix this problem, or not. That means electing politicians who will enact legislation requiring candidates to present evidence of eligibility. Right now, that’s not required.

Meanwhile, we are stuck with Obama until we vote him out of office. Elections do have consequences.


42 posted on 08/02/2010 7:54:16 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Frantzie

Your insults and holier than thou attitude are not at all helpful to the discussion. Another thing I’ve noticed is that when someone thinks they have all the correct information and all others are stupid or misinformed, that someone is usually on the slippery slope of insanity.


43 posted on 08/02/2010 8:00:50 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Pilsner

Sir, LTC Lakin is suspended from duty, pending his trial.


44 posted on 08/02/2010 8:06:34 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: 240B

What if your Captain was Hasan, and he ordered you to join him in shooting to kill whoever was waiting in line at the Ft. Hood clinic? Or if you were in Afhanistan/Iraq and your captain ordered you to shoot 3 civilians who he suspected, without any proof, set an IED that killed your comrades?

Would you have to follow those orders? Would you be court martialed if you refused? Those would be, after all, illegal orders, albeit given by your commanding officer.

So, if you believe the CinC is not serving in that capacity Constitutionally, and is giving orders for tens of thousands of US troops, including yourself, to go into harm’s way, and is refusing to prove his eligibility to hold that office and to issue those orders, why are you not within your rights to refuse the orders until the proof is provided that the CinC who issues those orders holds his position with constitutional authority?

I agree that Lakin is in deep kimchi here but he knew what he was doing when he refused orders and was willing to suffer the consequences. And I fear he was not properly advised about what would and would not be allowed as evidence at his court martial.

A CinC of any honor whatsoever would have made his proof of eligibility public long ago, instead of having a number of dedicated soldiers risk their military careers in questioning that authority. Lakin, at least, has the advantage of being able to return to private surgical practice when this is over.


45 posted on 08/02/2010 8:06:56 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: AppyPappy

Comparing Bush to obama is a big stretch of facts. The votes in Florida were recounted a number of times by Gore and there is no question Bush won. obama is without a question in violation of Article 2 of the Constitution(Natural Born Citizen clause). No if’s,or’s, or maybe’s. He has been fighting over 70 lawsuits to make sure that no one has access to a original certified copy of his birth records. With that birth certificate ,you would have legal proof that obama had dual citizenship at birth and is inegibile to be the President. The court marial board has no constitutional authority to hold Lakin without a legal sitting President in the White House. The court martial board has a Constitutional sworn duty to protect Lakin and help remove obama from the White House.


46 posted on 08/02/2010 8:09:24 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: centurion316

I did not say you were wrong as to the outcome, I said you are wrong on determining Lakin AWOL...he is NOT AWOL, he stated very clearly he is willing to serve upon proof of receiving LEGAL orders.

And yes, you are most likely correct that the issue will not be addressed in a court of law whose duty it is to protect Americans from unconstitutional acts by Congress and the office of the president. The Courts also have failed in their duty, as well as the politicians and 29% of the voting Americans who cast a thoughtless vote.

My statement that YOU are deeming him AWOL is incorrect and thinking the ONLY issue is that he is AWOL is quite wrong, and even the court knows this.


47 posted on 08/02/2010 8:12:30 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: omegadawn

You are basing your argument on a lack of data. You are saying “Because I have not seen the COLB, I conclude he is not eligible”. That’s hardly a basis for refusing orders.

I heard of a guy who refused a deployment because he thought Bush went AWOL and was therefore ineligible to be president. Same argument.


48 posted on 08/02/2010 8:15:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: RowdyFFC

He is not being charged with being AWOL. He is charged with missing movement. Your argument will not be heard by the court. He received a legal order, the evidence will show that without ever mentioning the President, and the evidence will show that he refused to obey it. It won’t take long.


49 posted on 08/02/2010 8:23:08 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: AppyPappy

He was not AWOL. Missed a movememt, but he was not AWOL.


50 posted on 08/02/2010 8:24:19 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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