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Mexican Youth Is Attacked on Staten Island (NY Times, "assailants, mostly young black men")
NY Times ^ | August 1, 2010 | By KIRK SEMPLE

Posted on 08/02/2010 10:56:49 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: kabar

Look at our prisons to see what is probably coming to the “outside”.


51 posted on 08/02/2010 1:15:01 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

A hate crime??? I don’t understand. Blacks are permitted to prevent whites from voting, but they are NOT allowed to beat up on Mexicans?? Oh, wait...yeah, I DO understand!!!


52 posted on 08/02/2010 1:18:35 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: April Lexington

The black kids (kids used advisedly) aren’t interested in any jobs these Mex may have. The phase “I aint workin for no chump change!” is heard over and over in Black communities.Having taught in a JHS wit 56% Hispanic, 34% Asian and 5% white and Black I can tell you the animosity toward the Asians and Hispanics on the part of the black kids was and is palpable.And of the black kids if you get 1 in 10 with a working dad you get a lot. There is almost zero interest in getting ahead the right way among the black kids. They aren’t interested in hard work because few in their lives work at all and yet the bills are paid, they have the Air Jordans, and the fancy phones. Going after these Mex isn’t about anger over not getting their jobs, it’s about anger that they are being overtaken again by a new group. If someone can be blamed it’s those who heeded WEB Dubois and not Booker T Washington.


53 posted on 08/02/2010 1:23:00 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: neverdem

I read this earlier on another forum. This is hideous. Say what you will about illegals, at the least a lot of Mexicans who come here TRY to make a new good life for themselves.


54 posted on 08/02/2010 1:29:51 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: xkaydet65
If someone can be blamed it’s those who heeded WEB Dubois and not Booker T Washington.

Truer words were never spoken.

55 posted on 08/02/2010 1:30:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: neverdem

Across the airways, no profile of the alleged assailants except for approximate age.

What are the odds the perps are not from Conservative backgrounds?

Big Media at its finest. /s


56 posted on 08/02/2010 1:32:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: xkaydet65

“The phase “I aint workin for no chump change!” is heard over and over in Black communities”

Which is how yo start out, working for chump change. They want to start at the top with the highest salaries.


57 posted on 08/02/2010 1:34:43 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

>> Say what you will about illegals, at the least a lot of Mexicans who come here TRY to make a new good life for themselves.

It doesn’t matter what the illegals’ motives are. There’s no legal justification for the alleged attacks.


58 posted on 08/02/2010 1:39:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

Exactly. It’s revolting. Someone making a living, trying to live the American dream, make a life, all ended by a pack of feral animals.

To quote from Dead Man Walking: “Worse than an animal, because animals don’t rape and kill their own kind.”


59 posted on 08/02/2010 1:45:01 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

>> trying to live the American dream

I’m not interested in the ‘documentation’ status of the victims. Whether or not the victims are illegal aliens is a different issue altogether.

The political distortions in reporting is the story within the story.


60 posted on 08/02/2010 2:00:28 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: neverdem
Folks, you've missed the money quote here:

They also treated the nine earlier cases as hate crimes, though in the three cases in which arrests have been made, grand jurors declined prosecutors’ requests to indict the suspects on hate-crime charges...

So the juries (who may very well have had some things in common with the perps...) decided that these cases weren't hate crimes... how interesting...

61 posted on 08/02/2010 2:05:46 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: neverdem

Were the victim a white Joe Sixpack, we’d never hear about this rather petty attack and robbery. Whites have been beaten to death and nearly to death all across this country by blacks and those stories rarely even make the local news. If they do, the race of the attackers is withheld.

This Mexican kid was doing a job that could have been filled by an American teen, college student or any out of work American desperate for a paycheck.

Americans are being victimized on the border right and left in very serious ways, including murder, and not just a minimal beating and minimal robbery as happened here. Law enforcement are specifically targeted by marauders flowing over the border. Yet it sounds like, in a per capita comparison, a lot more reinforcements are being sent in to help Staten Island illegals than to our border to help Americans who have lived here for decades, perhaps a centruy, building a country.


62 posted on 08/02/2010 2:51:49 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: neverdem
From the jails and prisons to a lot of city halls, the rat's coalition is not too solid. The main unifying theme is hating whitey.

The main unifying thing is hating white men. Don't forget the feminists.

63 posted on 08/02/2010 2:52:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: livius
“Young blacks” hate Mexicans because Mexicans actually - gasp - work.

Don't forget that Mexican and South American gangs are cutting in on the drug business. The turf wars over that are going to be bloody.

64 posted on 08/02/2010 2:55:00 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: April Lexington

Huh? Blacks aren’t worried about illegals taking jobs away from them, especially feral black males. What blacks object to is illegals sucking up the welfare benefits and other taxpayer-funded freebies. Revenues are down, programs are being cut. Blacks have enjoyed the vast bulk of this largesse for decades. Now they have to compete with illegals and legal Mexican immigrants for a dwindling resource - whitey’s confiscatory dollars.


65 posted on 08/02/2010 2:56:09 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: livius

Most of the rioters in 1992 were Hispanic.


66 posted on 08/02/2010 3:00:28 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Niuhuru

Some try to and succeed in assimiliating, but far too many just want to impose their culture on us and demand that we pay the piper. Many won’t even learn our language. That doesn’t say, “I want to be an American” to me. Remaining a foreigner is their choice, yet we wring our hands in distress over their claims of not being mainstreamed and being forced to “live in the shadows.”


67 posted on 08/02/2010 3:04:02 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: PapaBear3625

I hope they are indeed bloody and that both sides succeed in killing their foes.


68 posted on 08/02/2010 3:06:34 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Niuhuru

Why is the victim’s “dream” now ended? Is he going to be deported? He wasn’t seriously injured, according to the report. Can’t he just go back to work? He’s 15 years old, for pete’s sake. Dream ended?

Does the 15 year-old have a work permit? I think because of his age, he needs a work permit and a social security number. If so, who issued it? Did they check his immigration status?

Speaking of dreams, why wasn’t that job being filled by an 18 year-old American kid with dreams?


69 posted on 08/02/2010 3:16:23 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: PapaBear3625

This guy and the others these “yutes” have killed were clearly not drug dealers. Black thugs (and the killer may not have been a gang member - he was a Liberian immigrant) usually attack people they regard as “soft,” like Bernie Goetz, and most Latin American restaurant workers present pretty soft targets. There have been a number of similar beatings and killings in New York.

Also, don’t forget: the vast majority of Hispanics, except for some groups from the Caribbean and the more remote Indian parts of South America, are Caucasians or of mixed Caucasian-Indian descent. They have “victim” written all over them.

Actually, Caribbean Hispanics are much better able to defend themselves. I lived in Upper Manhattan at a time when you didn’t dare go into the parks or even onto the streets because of the “yutes.” The Dominicans (mostly black Hispanics) arrived, and they wanted to have birthday parties and picnics in the park, darn it. And they did - after a few of the yutes were mortally stabbed by unknown Dominicans...Aggressive self defense works every time. Sad, but that’s how it is.

They made it quite peaceful and safe. The salsa music was a little loud, but you were always perfectly fine when the Dominicans were in the park. So it’s not a race thing, it’s a culture thing, and this Liberian probably fell in with some bad elements in local black culture and acted accordingly.


70 posted on 08/02/2010 3:31:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: kabar

>>One of the MSM’s biggest secrets is the ongoing turf wars in this country between blacks and Hispanics.

Precisely so. There have been a number of articles reporting on what is obviously ethnic cleansing of blacks from hispanic neighborhoods in L.A., going back several years.


71 posted on 08/02/2010 3:37:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: chilltherats
What blacks object to is illegals sucking up the welfare benefits and other taxpayer-funded freebies. Revenues are down, programs are being cut. Blacks have enjoyed the vast bulk of this largesse for decades. Now they have to compete with illegals and legal Mexican immigrants for a dwindling resource - whitey’s confiscatory dollars.

The welfare-heavy states are broke. The feds are broke too. The welfare system is going to collapse in just a few years. It's going to get REAL INTERESTING the day after the welfare checks don't come. Or (same difference) when there's massive cutbacks in government jobs for people who don't actually do any work.

72 posted on 08/02/2010 4:43:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Republic of Texas

“A word to the wise. Chicanos, American born Hispanics, do not like Mexicans, and vice-versa.”

Well, I know that Central and South Americans utterly despise Mexicans. No one likes the reprobates.


73 posted on 08/02/2010 7:35:48 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Niuhuru

“...at the least a lot of Mexicans who come here TRY to make a new good life for themselves.”

Oh, spare me. That may have been true fifty years ago, but it hasn’t been true in the past 25. They have been and are parasites.


74 posted on 08/02/2010 7:41:38 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: PghBaldy

“Most of the rioters in 1992 were Hispanic.”

If you are talking about the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles you are correct. Most people don’t know that little tidbit.


75 posted on 08/02/2010 7:45:47 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: LottieDah
Oh, Please! Port Richmond was always a working class to poor neighborhood. It was never "stately" and was basically an industrial area/shopping area that faded as Staten Island deindustrialized and retail development shifted to the South Shore.

Basically, the welfare class blacks are robbing (illegal) Mexicans of their paychecks. Been going on for years.

76 posted on 08/02/2010 8:11:44 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: ckilmer
Compare the % of blacks in state prisons compared to other races. Which race leads America in murder? Who are the majority race in Camden, East St. Louis, St. Louis, proper, etc., all of which lead the US in murder? Which race commits the overwhelming majority of murders in PHILLY?

Don't cry for the black underclass. Some of us have family who ran for their lives when the "Amish" migrated up north 50 years ago, "changing" neighborhoods overnight.

77 posted on 08/02/2010 8:14:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Palladin
Staten Is. should secede from NYC.

Staten Island: Where the makeup is thick, and the accents thicker!

As Manhattanites say, if Staten Island goes, it will at least smell a little better in NYC.

78 posted on 08/02/2010 8:16:21 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Alberta's Child

The ironic thing being that Latinos are a Western people, unless they are truly Indians from the Andes, whereas Africans are NOT.


79 posted on 08/02/2010 8:18:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: chilltherats
Ok, you caught me red handed...
80 posted on 08/02/2010 9:08:06 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: xkaydet65

Jungle boogie!


81 posted on 08/02/2010 9:18:16 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Niuhuru
I read this earlier on another forum. This is hideous. Say what you will about illegals, at the least a lot of Mexicans who come here TRY to make a new good life for themselves.

Maybe Obuttboy could negotiate an exchange program with the Mexican government?

82 posted on 08/02/2010 9:19:25 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Niuhuru
They want to start at the top with the highest salaries.

And, on average, the lowest IQs...

83 posted on 08/02/2010 9:20:33 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


84 posted on 08/02/2010 9:23:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ought-six

Yes I was referring to the Rodney King Riot. I didn’t know that factoid until later.


85 posted on 08/02/2010 9:53:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: neverdem

It happened again on Saturday night in Brooklyn. A mob of 20 blacks bludgeoned a young native Brooklynite of Hispanic ancestry to death on 12th St. and 5th Avenue in Brooklyn.
His friend was stabbed numerous times and is hanging onto life at Lutheran Hospital.

Eyewitnesses said that blood was flowing in the streets of this upscale Park Slope neighborhood.

So far, none of the black thugs has been arrested.

Nice going, Bloomberg, for keeping your city free of violence.

Fire Ray Kelly—he’s incompetent and over-the-hill.


86 posted on 08/02/2010 9:58:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on The View: "When those folks came over on 9-11". Folks??? WTH?)
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To: Palladin

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/deadly_klyn_bash_leaves_one_dead_QrVj2xsMqI6sqO8AGPq0TN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=


87 posted on 08/02/2010 10:05:34 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on The View: "When those folks came over on 9-11". Folks??? WTH?)
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To: neverdem

Unfortunate. However, those thugs understand something their “leaders” dont or don’t care about. Blacks are main loosers with illegal immigration and cheap labor.


88 posted on 08/02/2010 10:42:04 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: ought-six

Central and South Americans hate Mexicans because they defend their border so diligently and brutalize any from the south who dare to cross it. Ironic huh?


89 posted on 08/02/2010 11:01:11 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Clemenza

Port Richmond was stately at the beginning of the last century. It became industrialized with time and then became what it is now. My husband worked with attorneys whose parents had law offices there 70 years ago and can attest to the major decline of the area. Port Richmond was crappy 35 years ago when I moved to Staten Island and has declined even further.


90 posted on 08/03/2010 4:51:11 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: neverdem

and i bet just because they are black, they won’t be charged with a hate crime...

Just like if I walk in downtown Newark and am attacked, the police report would say that I was the victim of a robbery and that because I am white I was probably looking to buy drugs... that’s just the way it goes, no equality.

these hate crime laws are passed to target and profile the white male who are victims of political correctness gone awry.


91 posted on 08/03/2010 11:15:28 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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