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Obama: We Will Quit Iraq In 4 Weeks (looks like Iraq is over)
The Sun (UK paper) ^ | 8-3-2010 | Sun editors

Posted on 08/02/2010 7:32:25 PM PDT by Frantzie

PRESIDENT Barack Obama has pledged to keep his campaign promise to pull U.S. soldiers out of Iraq by August 31. Obama's vow to end the combat mission in Iraq comes despite increased violence and political tension there.

According to official figures, 535 people died in Iraq in July - the highest figure since May 2008, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The President said "a grateful America must pay tribute to all who served there."

"Remember, our nation has had vigorous debates about the Iraq War," Obama said in a speech at the Disabled American Veterans' national convention in Atlanta.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; heisamuslim; iraq; islam; obama; postwariraq; timetable
Looks like it is over. The Sun is a Murdoch paer as in Rupert Murdoch of Fox/Saudia News.
1 posted on 08/02/2010 7:32:27 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie
Except for the 50,000 "transition" troops who will be staying until who knows when.
2 posted on 08/02/2010 7:34:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Frantzie
Getting us out of the war we were winning and deeper into the one we are losing. US Grant he aint. We are on the eve of disaster.
3 posted on 08/02/2010 7:34:57 PM PDT by jpf (ME in 2012.)
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To: jpf

He is a saudi agent.


4 posted on 08/02/2010 7:35:48 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

obumber must figure enough time has passed that he can now take credit for victory in Iraq and not get laughed out of the country.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 7:36:00 PM PDT by JoSixChip (You think your having a bad day?.....Just remember, somewhere out there is a Mr. Pelosi!)
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To: Frantzie

6 posted on 08/02/2010 7:36:16 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Frantzie

He may as well be.


7 posted on 08/02/2010 7:37:32 PM PDT by jpf (ME in 2012.)
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To: Frantzie

FUBO!


8 posted on 08/02/2010 7:37:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Frantzie

So, Harry Reid said a fee years ago that the Iraq was was lost. What does this say about his judgement?


9 posted on 08/02/2010 7:40:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Except for the 50,000 "transition" troops who will be staying until who knows when.

Yup. This is a sop for the anti-war left leading up to the Nov. election. A lot of these idiots wont read past the headline.

10 posted on 08/02/2010 7:40:44 PM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: Frantzie
Don't forget about the new State department army that was formed for this.

It is a brand spanking new army.

Of course it is totally constitutional. /s

11 posted on 08/02/2010 7:45:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Frantzie

My understanding is that you have to be a citizen first in order to be a Traitor. (or possibly at least one-of-us)

What does that make Obozo? An Enemy Combatant?


12 posted on 08/02/2010 7:45:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Frantzie

Rubbish. I’ve got a catechumen who’s preparing to deploy to Iraq as part of a logistics battalion. The “turning out the lights” crew won’t even be into Iraq until sometime in the fall or winter. This is propaganda based on the specious distinction between “combat troops” and “non-combat troops” made up either by the left or some militarily-challenged moron in the diplomatic corps. Obama wants to claim we’ll have withdrawn by then as a campaign talking point for his loony left base.


13 posted on 08/02/2010 7:47:25 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: hinckley buzzard

We still have troops in Germany, how long ago did WWII end?


14 posted on 08/02/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Texas Fossil

Precisely!

LLS


15 posted on 08/02/2010 8:05:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Frantzie

Same s--t, different decade.

16 posted on 08/02/2010 8:09:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jpf

I suppose we are “winning” if your goal is to solidify the control of Iraq’s Shi’ite pro-Iran (increasingly Sadr friendly)regime.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 8:14:45 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Frantzie

The left wanted Iraq to fail just as they wanted Vietnam to fail. The two things that scare the political left are the military and strict constitutionalists. Not all leftist are cowards, but all cowards are leftist. The left will only attack people, groups, and institutions that will not fight back, such as the Christian church and the military. You will never see a leftist attack Islam. They would pee in their pants if they thought that a Muslim was angry with them.


18 posted on 08/02/2010 8:21:25 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: The_Reader_David

when the bullets start flying, they’re ALL combat troops...


19 posted on 08/02/2010 8:22:44 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: Captain Kirk
No I was thinking more about the way our military pounded Al Queda Iraq and the other insurgents into dust.

Leaving while we are winning does not imply that we have “won”. We have failed to follow our military victories with requisite political victories, that is true. All the more reason not leave.

20 posted on 08/02/2010 8:24:00 PM PDT by jpf (ME in 2012.)
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To: dfwgator

Nonsense.


21 posted on 08/02/2010 8:44:22 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

>>> It is a brand spanking new army. Of course it is totally constitutional. /s

So many people think history begins in 2001. History books are good things.

When a dozen marines invaded the original Shores of Tripoli, their army consisted of hundreds of local mercenaries. Letters of Marque and Reprisal and militia too. From the nation’s very beginning the idea of alternative and supplemental military force has always been on the table.


22 posted on 08/02/2010 8:44:40 PM PDT by tlb
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To: castlebrew
when the bullets start flying, they’re ALL combat troops...

Yup. You'll notice how scornful I was of the faux distinction.

23 posted on 08/02/2010 8:45:38 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Frantzie; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


24 posted on 08/02/2010 8:52:05 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Frantzie

Wasn’t that the Bush/Petraeus plan?

Most of the surge combat forces would be removed in 2010 - another 50K or so troops still there permanently?


25 posted on 08/02/2010 8:56:51 PM PDT by OldGuard (Conservatives - Saving the planet since 1860)
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To: Frantzie

50,000 will still be there. 6 “Advisory and Assistance” Brigades.

The only difference between a Brigade Combat Team and an AAB is the AAB has extra officers/NCOs for the training teams. An AAB is a reinforced BCT.

The headline is pure political BS.


26 posted on 08/02/2010 9:14:38 PM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: OldGuard

On the money. Petraeus briefed congress on this plan in 2007.

The only thing changed by the current administration is where the General listed “Strategic Overwatch” Brigades, they have renamed them as “Advisory and Assistance” Brigades. This is the stage that we go to 6. Next summer we drop to 4.

An AAB is a reinforced Brigade Combat Team...


27 posted on 08/02/2010 9:19:13 PM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: DJ Elliott

The mission post Nov 2008 is pure BS. Idiots who watch TV elected a saudi mole. It is all about the american islamic govt helping terrorists kill American soldiers in iraq and Afghanistan for the entertainment of the Saudis and Islam.

Menawhile a few certain jacko*fs & PX rats on FR bash LTC Lakin.


28 posted on 08/02/2010 9:28:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

>>>””Remember, our nation has had vigorous debates about the Iraq War,” Obama said in a speech at the Disabled American Veterans’ national convention in Atlanta.”

Something to be said about the wisdom of that ancient Chinese military genius (Sun Tzu): “Every battle is won [or lost] before it is ever fought.”

Just depends on how we in the West interpret & view “winning” or “losing”, for example, in Iraq or Afghanistan.


29 posted on 08/02/2010 9:32:23 PM PDT by odds
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To: matt1234

I agree—just in time to prop up his base for the November elections. I didn’t hear the troops were coming home, just being withdrawn. Will they be sent to Afghanistan? You know—Obama’s good war? /s


30 posted on 08/02/2010 9:33:36 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: odds

The wars were lost Nov 2008. There never really was a strategy. When you have open borders - you have no strategy.


31 posted on 08/02/2010 9:49:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Nosterrex

It is far far worse than that. I have some POS PX rats who hitched up to get cheap booze attacking LTC Lakin on FR. The country put a muslim in charge.

Ball games, reality TV, wrestling, Hee Haw, Jersey Shore, NCAA ball games and other inane BS on the propaganda tube (all channels including Fox/Saudia) watched by idiots turne dthe power over to the Islamists. I cancelled TV a year ago because it is all leftist propaganda.


32 posted on 08/02/2010 9:52:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

>>>”When you have open borders - you have no strategy.”

Are you referring to ‘open borders’ around the U.S. itself ? Or, Iraq/Afghanistan?


33 posted on 08/02/2010 9:54:41 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Open borders in the US. 9/11 happened because Muslims and everyone else was flooding in and political correctness. Nothing has changed. Waste of time,money and lives. They want our best and bravest as far away from IslamoAmerica as they can get them.

Keep watching ball games and TV stooges.


34 posted on 08/02/2010 9:59:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

>>>”Open borders in the US. 9/11 happened because Muslims and everyone else was flooding in and political correctness. Nothing has changed. Waste of time,money and lives. They want our best and bravest as far away from IslamoAmerica as they can get them.”

I agree.

>>>”Keep watching ball games and TV stooges.”

Hope that was a general statement, and not an advice to me.


35 posted on 08/02/2010 10:03:57 PM PDT by odds
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To: Steve Van Doorn
"Don't forget about the new State department army that was formed for this. "

Didn't the NAZI'S also have a slew of seperate armies for each of it's departments and different minsters? SS, Waffen SS, Gestapo (had it's own army), SA, Luftwaffe (had it's own army), and more?

Takes you back to the good old days don't it?
36 posted on 08/02/2010 11:41:01 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: hinckley buzzard
Except for the 50,000 "transition" troops who will be staying until who knows when.

According to Article 24 of the SOFA [pg 19 & 20] 31 Dec 2011

37 posted on 08/03/2010 4:01:58 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Obama wants to claim we’ll have withdrawn by then as a campaign talking point for his loony left base.

Exactly. I look around, and I still see a lot of people carrying weapons.

38 posted on 08/03/2010 4:04:42 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: onedoug

ping


39 posted on 08/03/2010 5:20:05 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: stylecouncilor

#16


40 posted on 08/03/2010 6:00:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: tlb

you are right. I just have a bad feeling about the Kenyan Obama and Clinton running an army of mercenaries.


41 posted on 08/03/2010 6:04:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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