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NYC Islamic Community Center, Mosque One Step Closer To Construction
National Public Radio ^ | August 3, 2010 | David Gura

Posted on 08/03/2010 9:54:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission — "responsible for identifying and designating the City's landmarks and the buildings in the City's historic districts" — has decided not to assign landmark status to a building on Park Place, two blocks north of Ground Zero.

After the board's unanimous vote, its chairman, Robert B. Tierney, said the structure, which previously home to a Burlington Coat Factory, "does not rise to the level of an individual landmark."

Having surmounted the hurdle, a developer is now free to change or demolish the 152-year-old structure, clearing the way for the construction of a controversial $100 million, 13-story Islamic community center, which would include a mosque.

Last week, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) joined a loud chorus of opposition to such a facility near Ground Zero, whose ranks include Sarah Palin and several other politicians and activists.

"Some legitimate questions have been raised about who is providing the funding to build it, and what connections, if any, its leaders might have with groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values," the ADL said in a statement.

Ultimately, this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain unnecessarily, and that is not right.

Many critics of the community center, which is also known as the Cordoba House and Park51, say that there is no reason it needs to be built so close to Ground Zero.

The Wall Street Journal published a letter to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man charged with planning the community center, from Dan Senor — an adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a resident of Lower Manhattan, previously a senior adviser to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq.

"While we continue to stand with you and your right to proceed with this project, we see no reason why it must necessarily be located so close to the site of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks," he wrote. "Those attacks, as you well know, were committed in the name of Islam."

We applaud and thank every Muslim throughout the world who has rejected and denounced this association. But the fact remains that in the minds of many who are swayed by the most radical interpretations of Islam, the Cordoba House will not be seen as a center for peace and reconciliation. It will rather be celebrated as a Muslim monument erected on the site of a great Muslim "military" victory — a milestone on the path of the further spread of Islam throughout the world.

According to The New York Times, today's meeting "was free of much of the vitriol that had marked previous hearings."

One by one, members of the commission debated the aesthetic significance of the building, designed in the Italian Renaissance Palazzo style by an unknown architect.

Before the hearing, Elisabeth de Bourbon, a spokeswoman for the Landmarks Preservation Commission, said that, "what we're looking at is whether the building has the architectural and historic significance to the city of New York to merit landmark designation." In other words, its members were not asked to consider the planned use of the structure or site.


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KEYWORDS: 911; anarchy; groundzero; groundzeromosque; islam; jihad; mosque; newyork; obama; palin; privateproperty; propertyrights; putinonwhlawn; rop; sarahpalin; stealthjihad; stopislam; stopobama; stopsocialism; victory; wtc
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The elites have a backlash coming, and much sooner than they think.
1 posted on 08/03/2010 9:54:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slap in the face to most Americans.


2 posted on 08/03/2010 9:57:02 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slap in the face to most Americans.


3 posted on 08/03/2010 9:57:02 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slap in the face to most Americans.


4 posted on 08/03/2010 9:57:08 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slap in the face to most Americans.


5 posted on 08/03/2010 9:57:09 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: mtnwmn

Goodness....didn’t know I hit the “post” button more than once!


6 posted on 08/03/2010 9:58:27 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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7 posted on 08/03/2010 9:58:56 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NPR (here), CNN radio and Fox News radio are delighted. Fox Saudia.

Folks - Keep paying for cable and sat TV propaganda because the networks who won all the cable channels all support the caliphate and this 911 mosque.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 10:01:51 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We applaud and thank every Muslim throughout the world who has rejected and denounced this association.

All three of them?

10 posted on 08/03/2010 10:03:29 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Another idea for a button is something like,

"On Nov. 2,
WE
Drained the Swamp"
11 posted on 08/03/2010 10:07:06 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ZEROs FAVORITE SONG -- I, ME, MINE -- BY THE BEATLES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Surely someone is newly rich from this decision. The only alternative is there is some sort of brain eating disease loose in NYC.


12 posted on 08/03/2010 10:07:14 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: mtnwmn
You can say that again! And again, and again, and...
13 posted on 08/03/2010 10:08:37 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The terrorist are laughing so loud, I hear their taunts from the Afghan caves.


14 posted on 08/03/2010 10:14:42 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...which previously home to a Burlington Coat Factory, "does not rise to the level of an individual landmark."

Having surmounted the hurdle, a developer is now free to change or demolish the 152-year-old structure,

152-year old building isn't historic for being that old anymore?

There is little in Texas still standing that is that old.

One day the WTC Cordoba New Mecca Mosque itself will be granted historic preservation status. Better watch out.

16 posted on 08/03/2010 10:21:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Frantzie

The Saudis have bought into the American media and it is paying off. They have shelved some documentaries as a result.


17 posted on 08/03/2010 10:23:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
HEADLINE: NYC Islamic Community Center, Mosque Victory Monument One Step Closer To Construction

There. I fixed it.

18 posted on 08/03/2010 10:29:53 AM PDT by Gritty (Once you're in the Dar al-Islam, that’s it; there’s no checkout desk - Mark Steyn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
NO MOSQUE ON GROUND ZERO!!!!
19 posted on 08/03/2010 10:33:32 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our ruling class is laughing and smiling while they pull down their pants and crap on the rest of us. :(:(:(


20 posted on 08/03/2010 10:34:04 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: a fool in paradise
The Saudis have bought into the American media and it is paying off. They have shelved some documentaries as a result.

and George junior and senior kiss Saudi @$$ at the drop of a hat.

after 9/11 both Saudi and Egypt should have been turned to glass for their part in the attack....but the one world RINOs would have none of that......

21 posted on 08/03/2010 10:39:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MUSLIMS BUILD MOSQUES AT THE SITE OF THEIR VICTORIES. They’re LAUGHING at our stupidity.


22 posted on 08/03/2010 10:41:29 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

good thing it wasn’t a building to house boyscouts, or it would have been held up in litigation for 50 years.


23 posted on 08/03/2010 10:41:58 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
How many muslims live in lower Manhattan to warrant a $100 Million muslim center/mosque?
24 posted on 08/03/2010 10:43:47 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Vaquero
When is a bow not a bow?

White House: No bow to Saudi (Politico ^ | April 8, 2009 | Ben Smith)

"It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

25 posted on 08/03/2010 10:47:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Vaquero
Jimmy Carter does the bidding of his antisemitic Saudi benefactors as well. He calls Israel an apartheid system but Saudi Arabia is a true apartheid.


26 posted on 08/03/2010 10:48:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
It's not about serving congregants. It's like the Japanese being allowed to build a Shinto Shrine on top of the USS Arizona's hulk at Pearl Harbor or a Neo-Nazi meeting house at Dachau.
27 posted on 08/03/2010 10:53:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. ~Master Yoda)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But it would be interesting to see what that number is.

Bronx? I can understand.

Brooklyn, also.

Upper West Side? Yes too.

Lower Manhattan? No way in hell.


28 posted on 08/03/2010 10:56:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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Although I find it a distasteful thing to do I can’t justify not allowing the mosque to be built.

I also see no good reason not to allow “Bubba’s World of Bacon” to open up next door on one side and “Rainbow Apparel and Appliances” to open up on the other side.....especially after they spend $150 Million or whatever to build the thing.


29 posted on 08/03/2010 11:02:49 AM PDT by Tucsonican
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I also see no good reason not to allow “Bubba’s World of Bacon” to open up next door

Guarantee that would not be allowed to ghappen. What a sad state this nation has become.
30 posted on 08/03/2010 11:04:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: a fool in paradise

Kind of reminds one of these times

31 posted on 08/03/2010 11:09:19 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Tucsonican

How about the “Museum of Islamic Atrocities”?


32 posted on 08/03/2010 11:10:06 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: a fool in paradise


Kind of reminds one of these times.



Sorry guys, this is what I meant to post.
33 posted on 08/03/2010 11:12:29 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Tucsonican

New York has pigeons, right? Lots of them.

I’m sure those poor pigeons outside of this new mosque would appreciate some nice people feeding them lots of tasty bacon bits, which their tiny little stomachs can thus digest, and their intestinal tract then excrete said bacon bits upon the grounds and rooftop of this wonderful expression of ‘tolerance’.


34 posted on 08/03/2010 11:16:01 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: pepperdog
Surely someone is newly rich from this decision.

There you go! The whole enchalida! Bingo!

35 posted on 08/03/2010 11:22:33 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What happens when the Muslims realize they can't convert the people of NYC into Islam?
We won't have to ask how the supporters of this mosque are going to "feel" after the entire building turns into a mushroom cloud, because all those supporters will be dead (along with the millions of Americans who tried to stop it).
36 posted on 08/03/2010 11:26:55 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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How on Earth can this group claim to want to “heal divisions” in the community, when their very first act is to thumb its nose in the face of stiff opposition???!!!

This alone tells me all I need to know.

Liberals are too dumb to figure it out, are in denial, or are looking forward to another anti-American outpost.


37 posted on 08/03/2010 11:27:34 AM PDT by cvq3842
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Although I find it a distasteful thing to do I can’t justify not allowing the mosque to be built.

I agree. The government does not have the authority to prevent a private property owner from constructing a building on his own property, simply because the building will be used for a "distasteful" purpose. Particularly when that purpose is (nominally) religious. And particularly when the means used to prevent construction are as cynical as using landmark preservation status to preserve a building that no one cared about until it was going to be transformed into a mosque.

If we are going to be defenders of the Constitution and limited government, we must not allow for government excesses simply because we agree with the end result.

I also see no good reason not to allow “Bubba’s World of Bacon” to open up next door on one side and “Rainbow Apparel and Appliances” to open up on the other side.....especially after they spend $150 Million or whatever to build the thing.

Again, I agree. It's worth noting that there is, in fact, a bar located right next door to the building, which (obviously) serves alcohol, but also serves a variety of pub food, including (I believe) several items that include bacon.

38 posted on 08/03/2010 11:29:35 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Day by day we´re becoming the dhimmi.

God save The United States.

39 posted on 08/03/2010 11:31:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As Conservatives we must support the Property Rights of those who own the property where the mosque will be built.


40 posted on 08/03/2010 11:33:10 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IMO, the preservation board got some sweet kickbacks. The structure they've planned is blatantly islamic and will they have loudspeakers playing 24/7 chants and prayers? This is an in your face move that is in line with the Koran that islam's objective is world domination.

Bambi's letting scores of them in at the southern border. A closeted muslim as president is bad. Why would people vote for a Barack Hussein Obama? IMO, Hilary won but BHO stole votes during the caucuses in the large cities. It's disgusting.

41 posted on 08/03/2010 11:36:16 AM PDT by floriduh voter (On The View, Barack Obama said Americans were all mongrels, i.e. dogs.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The mosque is a monument to the hijackers. This is what “they” do at battle sights. There had to be kickbacks w/th presservation board or THREATS cuz this is insanity straight up. ROP is far from it.


42 posted on 08/03/2010 11:39:59 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If I lived in Manhattan, lookin' forward to call to prayer all live long day. ROP is a LIE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The building doesn’t even look American but that’s the idea. The sooner America doesn’t look the same, the better for all the infiltrators.


43 posted on 08/03/2010 11:42:37 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If I lived in Manhattan, lookin' forward to call to prayer all live long day. ROP is a LIE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Their call to prayer will be broadcast all over NYC every morning at day break.
44 posted on 08/03/2010 11:46:45 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Demonic.


45 posted on 08/03/2010 11:48:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: trumandogz

As a true conservative I support the property rights of those citizens that bought the rights to this property with their blood on 9/11/01. Some day our children will be forced to fight to recover the freedoms we are giving away to muslim terrorists who are a building mosque in our country to celebrate their victory on 911


46 posted on 08/03/2010 11:54:52 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The democrat blogs are referring to it as a memorial to the 9/11 victims.
Democrats are clinically insane.
47 posted on 08/03/2010 12:03:37 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: a fool in paradise

The Bin Ladin Muslin Victory Center

He predicted to us this would be coming. Laughed, we did.


48 posted on 08/03/2010 12:07:51 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: a fool in paradise

YEah, might not have been bowing, it looks like he might have been kissing his ring.


49 posted on 08/03/2010 12:09:41 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Yeah. they’re going to have to cut that out.


50 posted on 08/03/2010 12:14:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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