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Moran Win Another Victory For GOP Establishment
The Hotline ^ | August 3, 2010 | Dan Roem

Posted on 08/03/2010 9:59:25 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Rep. Jerry Moran (R) joined MI venture capitalist Rick Snyder (R) as proof that the more moderate candidates can still get elected in GOP primaries as he defeated conservative stalwart Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R) in the KS-SEN GOP primary. The AP just called the race for Moran; he leads Tiahrt 49-45% with 87 percent of precincts reporting.

If Knoxville Mayor Bill Haslam (R) is successful in the 8/5 TN-GOV GOP primary by winning a decisive plurality against two more conservative challengers, that would make the third-straight major GOP win this week by a moderate candidate that led the primary in fundraising.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: 2010; jerrymoran; moran; rino; tiahrt; toddtiahrt

1 posted on 08/03/2010 9:59:25 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: KansasGirl; Kansas58; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ...

Todd Tiahrt ran far more strongly than anyone had expected. Hopefully, he’ll be heard from again.

KS. U-S SEN. GOP - Precincts Reporting: 90%
Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

X MORAN 148,732 49%
TIAHRT 137,000 45%
LITTLE 9,427 3%
LONDERHOLM 7,801 3%


2 posted on 08/03/2010 10:02:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hotline is breathless about this, but wait -— Moran is conservative, this was a debate measured in inches not miles. And the election was quite close. And .... “Moran backer Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).” ... conservative Jim DeMint has not endorsed moderates and RINOs. How is that ‘establishment’???


3 posted on 08/03/2010 10:04:46 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Todd Tiahrt ran far more strongly than anyone had expected

Better than expected is just another way of saying he lost. Conservatives have still not shown they have the numbers, and will make the effort, to force meaningful change in this Country. The November elections look to be a mixed bag, at best.

4 posted on 08/03/2010 10:06:20 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Clintonfatigued

Todd Tiahrt should have won. Moran Vs. Tiahrt 12K votes difference, Little + Londerholm 17K votes wasted.
Focus and discipline by voters is required if Our Republic is to survive! JMHO


5 posted on 08/03/2010 10:08:05 PM PDT by J Edgar
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Haslem is going to win because of his East Tennessee base, big bucks and the relative low name recognition of his opponents. He has certainly not run as a moderate but never the less he will be the next governor of the great state of Tennessee. A GOP pick-up by the way.


6 posted on 08/03/2010 10:10:56 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Prokopton
The press hated Tiahrt.
The GOP machine loved Moran.
It was a marriage made in a sweaty back room paid for by the hour. It was enough to make the difference.

Moran isn't a RINO though. So it isn't all bad. It just wasn't good enough.

7 posted on 08/03/2010 10:11:07 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Moran is not more moderate. He is more intelligent, and Tea-Hart is a slimy, lying scumbag.
8 posted on 08/03/2010 10:12:06 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa

“Moran is not more moderate. He is more intelligent, and Tea-Hart is a slimy, lying scumbag.”

Don’t be shy ... state your opinions, man!

I don’t know the men involved, but I worry about the levels of anger in the circular firing squads that have cropped up among us. Will we be able to heed RR’s advice on Nov 2?

Not being a wise guy ... it’s an honest question. Will you support this guy if he wins?


9 posted on 08/03/2010 10:17:24 PM PDT by jessduntno (I wonder...how will third Manassas turn out?)
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To: WOSG

-—Moran backer Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).” ... conservative Jim DeMint has not endorsed moderates and RINOs. How is that ‘establishment’???-—

Well, he did endorse RINO Dino Rossi over Conservative Didier in WA.
Also, Lindsey Graham over a Conservative challenger.
Plus, Barrett over Haley in SC.
And, as noted here, Moran over Tiahrt - where he sided with McCain as Levin, Palin, etc. backed Tiahrt.

That doesn’t include his 2008 endorsement of Mitt Romney for President.

Nobody’s perfect - nobody - not even with endorsements. Nobody.


10 posted on 08/03/2010 10:21:34 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("I was the only guy in California who initially endorsed (McCain) in 2000" - Duncan Hunter)
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To: jessduntno
Yes. I know him well, believe we need him in the senate, and I will support him (to the very limited extent I support any politician.)

Why don't I support any politicians wholeheartedly? Maybe because none ever support me in the smallest way?

11 posted on 08/03/2010 10:24:23 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Prokopton

jerry moran ran a positive campaign. Todd did not. Todds slimy negative campaign sealed the win for jerry.

nice to see good guys win


12 posted on 08/03/2010 10:37:02 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Palin loses.....I hope she keeps losing as McCain could be next.


13 posted on 08/03/2010 10:44:44 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yes, but we have forced Moran to the right.
Moran's district had no idea how bad Moran has been, at times.
Now, Moran can not get away with it anymore.
Moran will be a much more conservative Senator now, thanks to Todd Tiahrt.
14 posted on 08/03/2010 10:46:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: WOSG

Moran is an ass.
Moran undercuts conservatives all the time.
Moran calls conservatives “wingers” and works against conservatives in other primary races.

I know the guy.

He is NOT one of us!

Yes, he is better than a Democrat, but we can do better than Jerry Moran.


15 posted on 08/03/2010 10:48:10 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Prokopton
You are a horrible cynic!

CUT IT OUT! The moral of the “troops” is everybody’s responsibility.

Tiahrt ran against the media, against huge financial advantages of Moran, against huge differences in the numbers of Registered Republicans in Moran's home district compared to Tiahrt’s home district -—

And Tiahrt almost won!

This was a victory tonight!

I would also say that Tiahrt’s race help insura that Mike Pompeo won in the 4th District and that Huelskamp won in the 1st District. (I think I am correct there, been a long night).

Yes, I wish we had done a bit better, but -— Tiahrt is a formidable campaigner, Tiahrt won in the 4th District (Wichita) and Tiahrt won in the 3rd District (Kansas City, KS).

16 posted on 08/03/2010 10:52:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
“we can do better than Jerry Moran.”

Apparently you are speaking for a group that does not include the idiot Tiahrt.

17 posted on 08/03/2010 10:53:50 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa
Jerry Moran is NOT a conservative.

It is a free country, you do not have to be a conservative if you do not want to be a conservative.

However, Moran is dishonest, and claims to be a conservative when he is not.

Moran will now have to KEEP a number of campaign promises, promises that the RINO Moran would NEVER have made, in the first place, if not for Todd Tiahrt FORCING Moran to the right.

I know Jerry Moran. He can not be trusted, he is NOT a conservative. Moran's finger is always in the wind, and he always has his other hand, at your back, with a knife in it.

He will stab you in the back in a heart beat.

Moran would be another Lindsey Graham, if not for all of the campaign promises that Tiahrt FORCED Moran to make!

18 posted on 08/03/2010 10:57:53 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
“Tiahrt won in the 4th District (Wichita) and Tiahrt won in the 3rd District (Kansas City, KS).”

Probably. He is the type that big city liberals will vote for. I expect him to pull a Specter, and become a democrat.

19 posted on 08/03/2010 10:58:09 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa
You are a nut case.
Tiarht is far more conservative than Moran, as evidenced by the endorsements Tiahrt received.
The problem is that Moran CLAIMS to be a conservative, and Moran's home district was never (until now) exposed to the fact that Moran is NOT a conservative, as the lap dog media will not expose Moran's liberal votes.
If we had another week, Tiahrt would have won.
We were just getting our message out there this last couple of weeks.
20 posted on 08/03/2010 11:00:58 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
You really think these out of state gadflies that live 3,000 miles from Kansas should have any weight for a political endorsement in a Kansas contest?

I think you worship a bunch of idols who don't know much, but might be suckers for a BS’er. Tiahrt should have lots of time to sell them, because he never leaves Washington, D.C.

21 posted on 08/03/2010 11:08:19 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa
You have no political smarts at all.
You know nothing about politics.
You have never run a campaign.
You have never run for anything, yourself.

You speak often, about “out of state” interests, but you don't seem to realize that MORAN had HUGE out of state PAC contributions, in his campaign!

In short, you are all emotion, no experience, and no facts.

What is YOUR contribution to the conservative cause? From the evidence you have posted here, you seem to do more harm than good.

22 posted on 08/03/2010 11:27:36 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: jessduntno
I don’t know the men involved, but I worry about the levels of anger in the circular firing squads that have cropped up among us. Will we be able to heed RR’s advice on Nov 2?

It has gotten very bad lately...

".....divided we fall"

23 posted on 08/03/2010 11:42:40 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: IrishCatholic

It was a marriage made in a sweaty back room paid for by the hour. It was enough to make the difference.

More like a adulteress trist made at a seemy motel where in rooms are paid for by the hour! ;-)


24 posted on 08/04/2010 12:02:46 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Clintonfatigued; no dems; Non-Sequitur; Prokopton; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

Woo closer than expected.

Only light disappointment if any need be registered.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 12:51:42 AM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Highest profile loss for Palin so far?

Hopefully McCain will soon trump it.


26 posted on 08/04/2010 12:52:58 AM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Considering I live over 1000 miles from Kansas, I don’t know much about either one.
Mark Levin had Todd Tiahrt on his radio show, and supported him. I was hoping Tiahrt would win based on Levin’s support & Constitutional values.
I hope you guys in Kansas made the right choice & know what you’re doing!


27 posted on 08/04/2010 1:08:15 AM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Kansas58

You have no clue about anything.
See above (You would not repeat yourself if you had a brain.)
What election victories are you responsible for?
I ran a successful professional practice for 23 years.

I don’t know if you are emotional, or just have a really loud mouth.

Do you really think you are effective as a conservative “mouthpiece”? You are just all mouth.


28 posted on 08/04/2010 2:34:44 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sarah.....tsk tsk.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 7:24:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Kansas58
"Yes, but we have forced Moran to the right. Moran's district had no idea how bad Moran has been, at times. Now, Moran can not get away with it anymore. Moran will be a much more conservative Senator now, thanks to Todd Tiahrt."

How so? Campaign promises are dust in the wind. The voters have to really know the candidate over their whole life and career to have a chance of knowing how they will vote in the future. Just like McCain's recent tack to the right before the primary vote. Do any of us expect him to stay there after he wins the election?

30 posted on 08/04/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

I think you need to look at the bright side, in every race.

Conservatives must FIGHT, and always push our Republicans further to the Right!

Yes, this matters.


31 posted on 08/04/2010 9:41:08 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Clintonfatigued

IOW we are still plagued by vote splitters and idiots.

We even have one posting here in FL.

If little and londerhold pulled out there would be no establishment GOP candidate.

We have vote splitters popping up now and looking for “conservative branding” in order to attract and split a few votes to clear the field for RINOs.

Principled useful idiots.


32 posted on 08/04/2010 9:45:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TitansAFC

Wow! If you are accurate in your assessment in Post #10, I’m starting to worry about our frined Jim DeMint moving up to higher office (POTUS).


33 posted on 08/04/2010 12:08:37 PM PDT by no dems (To Every Democrat Elected Official in the U.S.: "Shame, shame. Shame on all your houses.")
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To: TitansAFC

Wow! If you are accurate in your assessment in Post #10, I’m starting to worry about our friend Jim DeMint moving up to higher office (Prez or VP).


34 posted on 08/04/2010 12:09:21 PM PDT by no dems (To Every Democrat Elected Official in the U.S.: "Shame, shame. Shame on all your houses.")
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To: Impy

In the MI Governor primary, it was a loss for Romney and Huckabee. Romney & DeMint supported Pete Hoestreka. Huckabee backed Mike Cox.


35 posted on 08/04/2010 6:42:17 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Clintonfatigued

All I want add is that I was for Jerry Moran. And I am glad he won.

It seems while everyone was beating each other over this race. No interest in the house races?

District 3, where I find myself in Johnson County needs to be redistricted so my county can elect better people. Liberals moved the county with Wyandotte and Dougals. Got idiot Kevin Yoder as nominee and already against him.

Businessman Mike Pompeo is on his way toward replacing Rep. Todd Tiahrt in the House in district 4. District 1 went for Republican Tim Huelskamp. Lynn Jenkins won, on her way to being re-elected, in district 2.

Anyhow, I ranted over this senate race before and no that the winner has been nominated I am happy. Plsu it was who I wanted.


36 posted on 08/04/2010 8:00:24 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Kansas58

Not at the moment, sadly.


37 posted on 08/04/2010 8:07:40 PM PDT by Teacher317 (remember dismember November)
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To: Kansas58
And Tiahrt almost won!

Tiahrt lost by 5 percentage points. He got his butt kicked.

38 posted on 08/06/2010 2:22:44 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Tiahrt was vastly outspent.
It was a 4 way race, and the splinter candidates made a difference.
Tiahrt won in the two larges counties, in the state of Kansas.
The MAIN reason that Moran won was that the Republicans, in Moran's 1st Congressional District, had never been exposed to his REAL voting record and his anti-conservative, tyranical personality.
The media protected the volatile control freak Moran.

Tiahrt made a huge difference, in Kansas.

Pompeo won BIG in the 4th District, largely because of that large turnout, the “conservative coat tails” helped out Mike Pompeo, significantly.

It is also a very save bet that Jerry Moran did NOT vote for the guy that took over the 1st Congressional District.

Tim Huelskamp, the winner, benefited as well from the strong conservative vote, for Tiahrt.

Huelskamp, Pompeo and Tiahrt ALL had the Kansans for Life and the Kansas Rifle Association endorsements.

Tiahrt did conservatives a great service, by running.

Moran NO LONGER CONTROLS THE 1st District! Moran is a tyrant, a control freak, and an enemy to real conservative control of the Republican Party.

I will vote for him, against any Democrat.

I will not sing his praises, however,

Moran is an ass, an untrustworthy, backstabbing ass!

39 posted on 08/06/2010 2:29:03 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Tiahrt was vastly outspent.

And out-classed.

40 posted on 08/06/2010 5:37:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: yongin

It’s good the next Governor of MI won’t owe any favors to those guys.


41 posted on 08/07/2010 12:48:03 AM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

What, exactly, is your problem?

Good people, even GREAT people, win and lose elections all the time.

Grow up

Shut up

Go away until you have something useful to contribute!


42 posted on 08/07/2010 10:38:13 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Good people, even GREAT people, win and lose elections all the time.

Not in this particular case.

43 posted on 08/07/2010 10:56:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Moran is not a good person, and Moran won.


44 posted on 08/07/2010 11:36:08 AM PDT by Kansas58
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