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Texas in need of more minority teachers (Segregation is back!)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 8/3/10 | AP

Posted on 08/04/2010 7:00:42 AM PDT by trueamerica

Texas schools need to hire more black and Hispanic teachers, especially as the enrollment of minority students continues to rise, experts said.

The Dallas Morning News reported Tuesday that two out of three Texas teachers in the past school year were white, which is a proportion that has not changed much in recent years. The state projects that minority students will make up around 62 percent of the student body in the 2011-12 school year, up more than 10 percent from a decade ago.

"The research shows that if you can match the ethnicity and race of teachers and students, teachers tend to be more effective," said Ed Fuller, associate director of the University Council for Educational Administration at the University of Texas at Austin. "It's important for role modeling and pushing those students to go to college. Of course, you want to make sure teachers are well-qualified and not just thrown into a classroom because of race or ethnicity."

A Harvard University Kennedy School of Government study published in 2004 concluded that white and black students in Tennessee did better on state tests with teachers of their own race.

The findings indicated that recruiting more minority teachers could generate important gains among minority students.

A similar study by the Education Resources Information Center found that Hispanic students had similar benefits. One of the reasons is that minority teachers better understand cultural differences and can "break down the students' stereotypes," according to the study.

Texas school districts hire about 30,000 to 35,000 new teachers every year, but the pool of minorities interested in the profession is small, local officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: homeschooling; publicschools; schools; segregation

1 posted on 08/04/2010 7:00:43 AM PDT by trueamerica
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To: trueamerica

This approach should finish the Texas public school system. Thousands of parents in the white community are sending their
children to private schools, or if they can’t afford that, they are homeschooling them.
There will be no stomach for property tax payers to finance this sinking ship.


2 posted on 08/04/2010 7:04:59 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: trueamerica

Train them to be racists early and when they grow up, they won’t depart from it.


3 posted on 08/04/2010 7:05:13 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: trueamerica

Teaching is more an art than a discipline. Forcing people to study education in college and then go into a thankless job as a public school educator is bad enough; forcing minorities who don’t care about education to study education in college and then go into a thankless job as a public school educator is criminal! We would be doing a disservice to the kids by forcing people who don’t want to teach into teaching through enticement (scholarships, “minority” grants). The kids deserve passionate (non-sexual) educators to inspire them. I was blessed to have passionate educators, and I learned a lot on my own through the public school system.


4 posted on 08/04/2010 7:07:47 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: trueamerica
Texas schools need to hire more black and Hispanic teachers, especially as the enrollment of minority students continues to rise, experts said.

The Dallas News, AP, and Ed Fuller ( the UT egghead) are RACISTS!!! They are essentially saying that blacks and Hispanics are too stupid and too ethnically delicate to learn from white teachers.

5 posted on 08/04/2010 7:11:58 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: trueamerica
Texas schools need to hire more black and Hispanic teachers, especially as the enrollment of minority students continues to rise, experts said.

The Dallas News, AP, and Ed Fuller ( the UT egghead) are RACISTS!!! They are essentially saying that blacks and Hispanics are too stupid and too ethnically delicate to learn from white teachers.

6 posted on 08/04/2010 7:12:41 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: kittymyrib

Thousands of parents in Texas are homeschooling because we have robust co-operatives and you can have your kid developing working robotics projects in elementary school...


7 posted on 08/04/2010 7:16:23 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: trueamerica

The whole ‘we need to pair students with teachers who look the same’ is the very definition of RACISM. These so-called ‘intellectuals’ are saying that black or hispanic students are incapable of learning unless taught by a black or hispanic teacher? So let me ask, what was the whole point of desegregating schools, if this is what’s required for minority students to succeed. These people are idiots. One of my absolute favorite teachers of all times when I was in school was Mrs. Jameson, a black woman. She didn’t preach, she taught, and she didn’t play favorites with anyone, and helped everyone, and we all (whites, blacks, hispanics) loved her.


8 posted on 08/04/2010 7:17:36 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: trueamerica

Why stop at separate black and white classroom? Let’s take it a step further; how about separate black and white schools? Oh wait... that might be illegal...


9 posted on 08/04/2010 7:17:36 AM PDT by trueamerica
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To: trueamerica

How is it going to benefit students to stick them with teachers of their own race/ethnicity - don’t they need to learn to work with and respect other cultures/races? So now liberals just want to shelter them from whitey apparently - and screw whitey out of a job so they can hire more minorities. Afterall, it’s “For the Children!” doncha know???

And why won’t this apply to white kids as well (we all know it won’t).
I’ve gone through so much of this multicultural crap during my own education...all these people want to do is constantly talk about, and point out, how we are all different. How about focusing on how we are the same?


10 posted on 08/04/2010 7:18:27 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: trueamerica
Texas schools need to hire more black and Hispanic teachers, especially as the enrollment of minority students continues to rise, experts said.

But what about "diversity"? If most of the students are black and Hispanic, shouldn't they bring in WHITE teachers in order to have "diversity"?

Imagine if a mostly white school had nonwhite teachers, and someone suggested that they should bring in white teachers to teach them; that somehow nonwhite teachers were inadequate to teach whites?

11 posted on 08/04/2010 7:21:46 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: trueamerica

If they’re not the minority anymore, stop playing word games and just use the races you want. Directed at the media that writes this crap. I’m tired of seeing ‘white’ and ‘minorities’ as us vs them so often. Gets people killed, more than this week’s thing too. All the damn time.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 7:25:30 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: trueamerica

Yeah let the Blame and hate continue from the home into the classroom.


13 posted on 08/04/2010 7:26:10 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: trueamerica

What if the white teacher is multi-lingual, i.e. speaks English, Tex-Mex, and Ebonics?


14 posted on 08/04/2010 7:28:12 AM PDT by nhoward14 (It's not racism when we do it. - Liberals)
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To: nhoward14

"Oh stewardess! I speak jive."

15 posted on 08/04/2010 7:29:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: trueamerica

16 posted on 08/04/2010 7:39:25 AM PDT by trueamerica
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To: trueamerica

I would argue that we should not allow teachers of any ethnicity teach classes to students who are primarily of their ethnicity.

Why? Simple... perhaps we can stop teachers from teaching such crap as ebonics, Black Liberation Theology, reconquista, etc.

It isn’t whiteys fault, the southwest doesn’t belong to Mexico, and clear, concise English helps you get ahead in the world. A basis in logic and critical thinking helps too....


17 posted on 08/04/2010 7:46:41 AM PDT by NorthernTraveler
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To: Nea Wood

(tongue firmly in cheek)

I guess you don’t understand the REAL definition of “diversity”:

Diversity means fewer white people and less Western Culture.

(well, maybe that’s NOT tongue in cheek, because that is the working definition)


18 posted on 08/04/2010 7:50:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: LoneStarGI

My favorite teacher in High School was black. He taught government and loved every student regardless of race. In fact he tended to be hardest on black students who did not care about school and dressed in ethnic clothes he felt inappropriate.

That being said, color should not matter when it comes to teaching. Only if the teacher loves what they do and loves kids.


19 posted on 08/04/2010 8:00:37 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: rarestia; wintertime

Thankless job? Public school teaching is the world’s highest paid, semi-skilled part-time job in the world. Most - not all - public school teachers in Texas and elsewhere today would have a hard time finding indoor work with no heavy lifting if it weren’t for the “schools”. Roughly 40-50% of new teachers leave within the first 5 years or so because they have discovered that government schools are not what they thought they were. The ones left behind are mainly - not all - those who can’t find work that pays as well. Consequently, the evolutionary factor in government school faculties for over 20 years has been “reverse Darwin” - the survival of the unfittest.

Government school employees aren’t noble; they aren’t saints; and, they are “over-thanked” (overpaid). Then we could discuss what they are actually doing to children spiritually, morally, and intellectually. Unfortunately, it would require a book to describe the pathologies of the government schools and the vermin who tend to infest them.


20 posted on 08/04/2010 8:15:03 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: kittymyrib

I can afford a private school. We homeschool because it is better. Don’t suggest that homeschooling is the low rent alternative to govenment schools. We out achieve the private schools by a substantial margin.


21 posted on 08/04/2010 8:17:28 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Great post.


22 posted on 08/04/2010 8:18:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: achilles2000

I’m not sure what your districts look like, but in my area teachers are horribly underpaid compared to the cost of living. I know of three women who live with their parents, because they can’t afford a home in the area. So-called tenured teachers make a sufficient wage, but entry-level teachers can barely stand on their own if they’re single females. Otherwise it’s a job you have to love to stick with.

I agree with you. One friend who went on to teach after college wound up leaving it after just 2 years. He said the environment is very hostile and politicized. That kept me away from teaching as well. Many teachers genuinely want to teach, and they are the men and women who I would want to teach my children (if I intended to send them to public schrools). Incentivising minorities to teach if they aren’t passionate about it is a bad idea.


23 posted on 08/04/2010 8:25:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: achilles2000

Homeschooling is not only superior to private schooling,
in many cases it’s actually more expensive to eschew the second income.

However, there are other considerations as well,
which are huge bonuses for the family that has a stay at home mom/teacher.


24 posted on 08/04/2010 8:32:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: rarestia; wintertime

Otherwise it’s a job you have to love to stick with.”

I would have agreed with you years ago, but today I strongly disagree. Things have changed that radically. For most teachers today - not all - they are there because a government school paycheck is the best paycheck they can get. Of course, they won’t say this publicly...publicly it is “all about the children”, but that simply isn’t true.

“Incentivising minorities to teach if they aren’t passionate about it is a bad idea.”

I couldn’t agree more. The problem is that it (incentivizing minorities) has already been done. In fact, it has been going on for at least 45 years, with predictably bad results. What they want now is more of the jobs for “minorities” - it is simply a fight over getting preference for government employment being camouflaged by rhetoric about learning and children.

I come from a family full of public school teachers, past and present. The system is now so corrupt that it needs to be eliminated. It is far beyond repair, as decades of failed “school reform” efforts” demonstrate.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 8:38:28 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Hadn’t been involved in the schools around here for quite some time. It’s sad that we’ve devolved that much.


26 posted on 08/04/2010 8:43:14 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: MrB

Regarding the second income....when taxes and all costs are factored in, the trade-off on the second income is more appealing in many cases than many assume. In addition, homeschooling doesn’t prevent parents from working from home - or if they have a business - bringing the children to work so they can do their school work there.

You are right, though, that there are some cases where a family would be giving up significant income.


27 posted on 08/04/2010 8:43:35 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Well said.


28 posted on 08/04/2010 10:56:52 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: trueamerica

Easy answers for the multiculturists are:

1. Promote minorities over whites regardless of capabilities and experience.

2. Hire minorities over white applicants without regard to capabilities or experience.

3. Reduce employment requirements to meet minority goals. If this means non-degree teachers, so be it.

You will soon have reached the goal of minority employment at levels near or exceeding their percentage of population.

I suspect you will also have a migration of white students (who would now be the minority) into private schools where parents are more concerned with education than diversity.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 11:17:02 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: trueamerica

When I lived in Texas, one of my coworkers actually said this to me: “I’m so glad my daughter has a white teacher.” Did I mention that she was black?


30 posted on 08/04/2010 11:43:53 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: rarestia; achilles2000
but in my area teachers are horribly underpaid compared to the cost of living......

Where in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence is it a God-given right to be paid according the standard of living of the area???? WHAT UTTER NONSENCE!!!

Why would it be rational to pay government teachers according the standard of living of the area but not the Home Depot shelf stocker or Wall Mart greeter???

I know of three women who live with their parents, because they can’t afford a home in the area.

And....There are ****PLENTY*** of people, who aren't teachers, working in the private sector in these areas that can't afford to buy a home in the area. TOUGH LUCK!

I have a doctorate. If I worked in Malibu ( and I could)I would NOT be able afford to live in Malibu ( on the beach or otherwise). It would not mean that I was in anyway underpaid.

Where on earth did you learn this Marxist DRIVEL!!! Did you pick it up from the NEA talking points website?

..."Incentivising" minorities...

By the way, normal conservatives would **never** use a phrase such as "incentivizing minorities". Only someone trained in Marxist educrat-speak would use a term like that.

From the poor quality of the posts of some of the government teachers on Free Republic and elsewhere and level of logical thinking, I am convinced that government teachers persist in the government schools because they absolutely could not survive in the free market. They stay in the government schools because they know they'd be eaten alive by the competition anywhere else.

( Not proof read.)

31 posted on 08/04/2010 12:46:12 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wildbill
I suspect you will also have a migration of white students (who would now be the minority) into private schools

You will also see a migration of ***black*** and ***Hispanic*** students into private schools, as well!

Any parent ( black, white, or Hispanic) that cared about his child's education would seek a better educational setting in a private school.

Our government schools are the **MOST** segregated institutions in America! No other private or public institution of significant size comes even close. Only government could create and maintain such a segregated monstrosity. ( Come to think of it, it took government to create and maintain Jim Crow. Only government could have pulled that off. )

As it is now, private schools are far better integrated than our government schools. And....When studied the white and minority students are far more socially integrated in private schools. For instance, in a private schools white and black children willing choose to eat lunch together. In government schools there is self-segregation in the lunch room.

32 posted on 08/04/2010 12:58:50 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

A little harsh, I’d say....I just thought you might be interested in the latest scam by certain privileged groups to try to claim a larger percentage of jobs for which they are not qualified.


33 posted on 08/04/2010 12:59:10 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: trueamerica

ONY THIS TIME THE BLACK MAN GONNA HAVE THE GOOD SCHOOLS AND THE WHITE MAN GONNA HAVE THE SLUMMY ONES.


34 posted on 08/04/2010 1:02:41 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: NorthernTraveler

Logic and reason is tool of the white oppressor/


35 posted on 08/04/2010 1:28:58 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: wintertime

*sigh* Ok, I’m being taken somewhat out of context here, winter. I don’t disagree with you that they aren’t owed a wage. They’re not working for 3 months out of the year, for goodness sake! However, they still do it. Why do they still teach? Are they getting any benefits from the teachers unions? Our local schools cry poor every year, but our counties consistently rank among the highest in education around my state; so, where is all of this largesse going?

The article discussed the emergent need for blacks and hispanics to fill the roles at schools in Texas. I wasn’t talking about “incentivising minorities” like it was a good thing. Go back and read my posts about this, and I’m saying that it is obscene to incentivize minorities for any reason; and they’re calling US racist!?

You’re not the first FReeper to tear me a new hole about things I’ve posted, but I do agree with you on one thing wholeheartedly: public schools, and ESPECIALLY graduate school, have and are teaching me the educrat-speak you cite, and I hate it. They’re all very high on excessively compounded words. Just know that I’m on your side of this battle and simply try to relate the issue in terms that the other side uses in order to effect the debate we need on issues like this. I’m tired of being called racist.

I think you might be reading my posts in the wrong light.


36 posted on 08/04/2010 1:30:44 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: trueamerica
The state projects that minority students will make up around 62 percent of the student body in the 2011-12 school year, up more than 10 percent from a decade ago.

What would they expect from a border state, where the conga-line of illegals is endless and supported by our own government....

37 posted on 08/04/2010 1:35:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ichabod1

Texas Has A Whorehouse In It!


38 posted on 08/04/2010 1:51:45 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: sportutegrl

Your comment makes me laugh. My husband is a mechanic and you wouldn’t believe how many blacks tell him they don’t trust the black mechanics we have in our small town. LOL


39 posted on 08/05/2010 8:27:27 AM PDT by timeflies
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