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Republicans Blast ‘Livable Communities’ Bill As Central Planning for Cities and Towns
CNS News ^ | August 4, 2010 | Matt Cover

Posted on 08/04/2010 11:49:19 AM PDT by La Lydia

The Senate Banking Committee passed the Livable Communities Act on Tuesday, moving the bill one step closer to final passage. The bill creates $4 billion in neighborhood planning grants for “sustainable” living projects and a new federal office to oversee them. Similar legislation in the House has been criticized by Republicans on the House Budget Committee, who charge that “the program’s aim is to impose a Washington-based, central planning model on localities across the country.”

In the Senate version, written by outgoing Chairman Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), the Livable Communities Act would designate $4 billion to aid local governments in planning high-density, walkable neighborhoods.

Premised on helping local governments to combat suburban sprawl and traffic congestion, the bill sets up two separate grant programs......

To administer and regulate these new grants, the bill creates the Office of Sustainable Housing and Communities (OSHC) within the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

The legislation is designed to prod local communities toward high-density, public transit-oriented neighborhoods that concentrate large numbers of people into small geographic areas connected by train and bus networks.

These high-density neighborhoods would be combined with high-density commercial districts that – in theory – would reduce the need for daily driving and commuting....


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda21; communism; freedom; liveable; marxism; marxistcoup; obama; populationcontrol; socialism; socialistblitzkrieg; soviet; sustainability; sustainable; un
They want us to give up our cars, live and shop in "dense" neighborhoods (like those rat experiments) that they approve of and ride the bus. You think Dodd and his like (and the adolescents on this staff that thought this up) are going to live like that? I do not like the use of the word "prod" here. This is Soviet social command and control for the proles.
1 posted on 08/04/2010 11:49:21 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

“...neighborhood planning grants for “sustainable” living projects and a new federal office to oversee them.”

There does not exist a more clear checklist for government waste, corruption and idiocy.

Can these losers now.

Burn them, tar them, run them out of town...but get rid of them.


2 posted on 08/04/2010 11:54:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: La Lydia

Where does he intend to get the money for this?


3 posted on 08/04/2010 11:54:52 AM PDT by ShandaLear (The price of Obamacare? 30 pieces of silver.)
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To: La Lydia

More ‘Agenda 21’ U.N. BS—

SOUND THE ALARM AGAINST SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
PART 1 of 2

http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom162.htm


4 posted on 08/04/2010 11:55:05 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: La Lydia
LBJ got all the minorities to vote in blocs by packing them into the inner cities and making them all think alike.

They're trying to do it again. And this is probably what all the "light rail" headlines are about that we keep seeing. Get rid of the cars which promote individualism and family and herd people onto more trains.

5 posted on 08/04/2010 11:55:05 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: La Lydia

6 posted on 08/04/2010 11:58:20 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Leisler

Pretty much.


7 posted on 08/04/2010 11:59:40 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Siena Dreaming

8 posted on 08/04/2010 12:02:59 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: La Lydia

Subsidized dumps...


9 posted on 08/04/2010 12:03:00 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: ShandaLear

From our paychecks Comrade.


10 posted on 08/04/2010 12:13:51 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: La Lydia; bcsco
planning high-density, walkable neighborhoods.

They obviously did not pay attention to the lessons of Cabrini Green.

11 posted on 08/04/2010 12:14:27 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon Ping List.)
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To: Da Coyote

Zoning used to be about making sure an occupancy or use was suitable for a given area. Now it is used as a tool of social engineering.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 12:17:15 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

This what they are trying to do with Tysons Corner as we speak. A fairly nice area is on its way to becoming a Moscow suburb.


13 posted on 08/04/2010 12:17:15 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Siena Dreaming

Cars and families ... reminds me of our trip to St. Petersburg, Russia. Families there have either one child, or years between the children. Part of it is the difficulty of managing children through the subway, trolley, etc.

Imagine our surprise to visit with three children in tow, and to be considered a large family!


14 posted on 08/04/2010 12:17:54 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Forgot to say: and “walkable” means “more opportunities to be mugged.” There is a reason why the powers-that-be in Washington, DC didn’t run Metro out to Georgetown or McLean, VA.


15 posted on 08/04/2010 12:19:16 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Siena Dreaming; All
1981 with Lee Majors

The movie was "The Last Chase"

private cars were outlawed.

Government imposed draconian rationing for political ends.

The Last Chase
16 posted on 08/04/2010 12:27:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Da Coyote

Yep another permanent gov. office zero creating new jobs.


17 posted on 08/04/2010 12:28:58 PM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: longtermmemmory

In a future United States, the only transport available to an individual is public transportation. Predicated on an assertion that “the oil has run out”, an increasingly totalitarian central government has ordered all personal vehicles be impounded by law. One man, a former race car driver, yearns again for his ability to choose his own roads and destiny. He reassembles his race car hidden from confiscation, and sets out for “Free California” which has broken away from the new regime, aided by a young technically savvy teen who feels alienated from this “social” society. Agents of the new government must stop this man at any cost to destroy the symbology he represents, and the instability that such a desire for personal autonomy could mean to the society. An old Korean War veteran and his F-86 Sabre jet are called into service to chase down this dangerous man, and end his flouting of the will of the state. In the words of one of the government agents, “People going where they want to, where they want to. This could set us back to the 1980s.”


18 posted on 08/04/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: La Lydia

RE: “They want us to give up our cars, live and shop in “dense” neighborhoods (like those rat experiments) that they approve of and ride the bus. You think Dodd and his like (and the adolescents on this staff that thought this up) are going to live like that? I do not like the use of the word “prod” here. This is Soviet social command and control for the proles”

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Exactly — the model for this is in Moscow — saw it myself in the seventies and early eighties, pre-Gorbachev. The buildings (tenements) still stand. Families shared bathrooms with other families — horrible surroundings — no landscaping -

Thanks, but no thanks!


19 posted on 08/04/2010 12:29:57 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: La Lydia

gulags - with benefits!


20 posted on 08/04/2010 12:31:15 PM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: La Lydia

Democrats spending $4 billion to promote density? That sounds about right.


21 posted on 08/04/2010 12:34:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lastchance

It’s also very useful for what the left likes best about government power -

punishing your enemies and rewarding your friends.

Whose property will be made worthless because of rezoning
and whose will be made more valuable?


22 posted on 08/04/2010 12:34:25 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: CaliforniaCon

Obama forcing “whitey” into the projects.


23 posted on 08/04/2010 12:34:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: La Lydia
The legislation is designed to prod local communities toward high-density, public transit-oriented neighborhoods that concentrate large numbers of people into small geographic areas connected by train and bus networks.

It's been a while since I read it, but I'm pretty sure this description was used somewhere in Dante's "Inferno".

Progressives loathe the fact that we are free to roam about in our cars, listening to what we want, making choices about where to go and what to do, and living in woodsy rural areas where streets have no sidewalks. In other words, they hate that we can get away from THEM. They can piss off.

"Live free or die" is taking on renewed meaning.
24 posted on 08/04/2010 12:34:49 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Fiscal order and a strong border...how about Christie/Cuccinelli 2012)
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To: La Lydia

Go to http://www.freedom21.org for more information on sustainable development, agenda 21, international baccalaureate, and “smart growth” schemes.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 12:36:05 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: La Lydia
While Commissars like Dodd luxuriate in their spacious dachas in the country, the wretched proles get to eke out a subsistence living in dreary block housing built by union labor with inferior foreign construction materials. Sounds familiar. Still think they aren't really Communists, America?
26 posted on 08/04/2010 12:36:14 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Dr Ron Utt at Heritage has done a lot of research on this, although it seems that Freepers already understand the scam.


27 posted on 08/04/2010 12:36:52 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: La Lydia

The bill creates $4 billion in neighborhood planning grants for “sustainable” living projects and a new federal office to oversee them.

So much wrong...so little time....

Why does EVERY BILL have “a new federal office”??!?? Are they saying that federal employees are so overburdened with work that they can’t take on any extra work?


28 posted on 08/04/2010 12:39:39 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The problem isn't that 1% of muslims are terrorists. The problem is 99% of terrorists are muslim)
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To: Kanzan

Attention Anyone who owns any land: if you are still voting Democrat, you are insane.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 12:40:23 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: andy58-in-nh

I would highly recommend that EVERYONE here go back to the seventies and read the fantastic book, The Russians, by Hedrick Smith. I read it before my first trip there in ‘77 and it was SO helpful and eye-opening.

Mr. Smith wrote a sequel after the offical ‘fall’ of communism, but you all should really read The Russians, now in paperback.


30 posted on 08/04/2010 12:50:51 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: La Lydia

Just building Projects......


31 posted on 08/04/2010 12:52:48 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: andy58-in-nh

Re: “While Commissars like Dodd luxuriate in their spacious dachas in the country, the wretched proles get to eke out a subsistence living in dreary block housing built by union labor with inferior foreign construction materials. Sounds familiar. Still think they aren’t really Communists, America?”

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Nope — well before the ‘08 election I already KNEW they were Communists, as did many of us here.


32 posted on 08/04/2010 12:52:50 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: LostInBayport
There demon/ Charon beckons them, with his eyes of fire; / crowded in a herd, they obey if he should summon, / and he strikes at any laggers with his oar...

Substitute "prod" for "oar," and there you have it.

33 posted on 08/04/2010 12:53:24 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: MrB

I’m thinking an ACORN bumper sticker would result in a positive outcome for many under this scheme.


34 posted on 08/04/2010 12:57:48 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: CaliforniaCon
I read it back then, too (I was in college at the time - dating myself, I know). I also picked up The New Russians (the follow-up) back around 1990, and it helped explain the social realities behind the collapse of the Soviet state. As implausible as it would have seemed back then, we're heading in the opposite direction. At least until November...
35 posted on 08/04/2010 12:59:02 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Wendy’s Commercial - Soviet Fashion Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ


36 posted on 08/04/2010 1:02:41 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: CaliforniaCon

Yep. Most of us who frequent this IP address had Obama’s number a long time ago. Sadly, that didn’t stop the propagandist media from bamboozling many others into thinking he was a smart, competent, centrist unifier when in fact he was none of those things at all.


37 posted on 08/04/2010 1:04:51 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Back when I was working, I would make occasional calls on Montgomery Ward, who’s headquarters was near Cabrini Green. There were times we drove past that project, but would never, ever, consider stopping for a red light...


38 posted on 08/04/2010 1:10:46 PM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: La Lydia

Damn, you’re good!

I love it...got a question, a vague memory...and someone on FR solves it in minutes!


39 posted on 08/04/2010 1:38:50 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Fiscal order and a strong border...how about Christie/Cuccinelli 2012)
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ping for later


40 posted on 08/04/2010 11:24:22 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (We in Missouri spoke LOUDLY 08/03/10 & We peacefully said NO to Tyranny. Are you listening Marxists?)
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To: La Lydia

**“walkable” means “more opportunities to be mugged.”**

Actually, more mugging opportunity ties in with Obama’s goal of wealth transfer, ne c’est pas?


41 posted on 08/05/2010 5:12:21 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: chickadee

And this is what they want to do to everyone....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2565443/posts


42 posted on 08/05/2010 5:13:52 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Now that is scary . . . and it’s not “the future” - it’s now.


43 posted on 08/05/2010 5:24:19 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: chickadee

And it is here, where I live.


44 posted on 08/05/2010 5:25:32 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

“Gun free” zones no doubt.


45 posted on 08/05/2010 5:27:27 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

The one in Virginia won’t be.


46 posted on 08/05/2010 5:30:56 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

More communism from the creep Chrissy Dodd. This bill has to be stopped.


47 posted on 08/06/2010 8:22:09 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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